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  • RM24 Feb 21, 2:42 p.m.

    What are the demographics of Henderson? Does it have any other similarities to say Durham, Rocky Mount, or other cities where violence and crime is high? Could it be if they all share the same demographics then that could be common ground and part of the problem ? That's crazy to think if the have an exact common link then that could be the problem ain't it

  • Southern Girl Feb 20, 6:06 p.m.

    It must be very hard to live in fear, especially since one of these attacks took place in front of children. The raper has no fear. Hope they find this person sooner than later. I don't understand if they think it is one person or several doing the attacking.

  • junkmail5 Feb 20, 5:29 p.m.

    Just some basic thought here

    If you do not have a gun while witnessing or being the victim of a crime you are a victim, the criminal is free to proceed as he wishes, and that's it.

    If you DO have a gun you can simply not draw it and the SAME thing happens. PLUS you have the option TO draw it if it seems likely you can stop the criminal.

    In every conceivable way the second situation is better as you at least have the option, and we know for a fact some people have effectively exercised such an option to improve the situation.

  • mh10809 Feb 20, 4:29 p.m.

    http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/
    Guns ownership doesn't correlate to lower crime rates. It is way to complex to break it down into something that black and white. Crime rates are a complex mix of socioeconomic, education levels, drug and alcohol abuse rates......and on and on. Let's just say this I'm from Henderson and Ive lived in NYC and Philidelphia. If you think you'd be so much safer with a gun spend some time in Philly. I know as I was being mugged at gun point with one gun being held at my head and another shoved in my back I wouldn't have been any safer if I had one on my person that night. It would've 1) ended in someone getting shot......probably me. or 2) just resulted in the criminals having one more gun illegally at their disposal. Hope they catch this guy and stay safe but too all of you that won't to turn this into some political talking point, get a life, and enough Limbaugh.

  • Relic Feb 20, 4:28 p.m.

    "Where is the SBI? Are they working on this also? Seems like more would be better."

    How do you know they're not? Did anyone say that the SBI or any other agency wasn't working with their police department or the Sheriff's Office? Why do folks insist on making law enforcement give up every bit of information that they need to keep low key to help get the person(s) responsible just because people are curious?

  • Southern Girl Feb 20, 4:03 p.m.

    Where is the SBI? Are they working on this also? Seems like more would be better.

  • busyb97 Feb 20, 3:51 p.m.

    "US having 4X the murder rate of any comparable western country"

    Is that number factoring the larger population too? Because yes, we would have larger stats given that we are larger and more populated than most countries.

    But I bet if you dig into those doctored crime stats, you'd find that the OTHER crimes have gone up - burglary, assault, rapes, etc. Just because you aren't murdered in a crime, doesn't make your life any less destroyed. In those countries with strict gun laws, yes, the criminals have less access, but it doesn't eliminate them or the crimes.

  • TB Feb 20, 3:25 p.m.

    Grand Union's quote: 'I think they had the shooter of the State Trooper and his car on camera which is a much better aid to identification than any eye witness report.'

    Yes, the camera provided information, but a woman who is savagely raped is a far better eye witness of the facial features, body features, height, color(eyes, skin, hair,) weight, clothing,smells, and even his breath than a camera on a car.

    My original point was: A description of the perpetrator needs to be provided for the citizens of Henderson.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 3:13 p.m.

    "Me: I'm not saying that. You asked a question and then sarcastically answered it by using meaningless anecdotal evidence." NYtoNC81

    The "meaningless anecdotal evidence" being the article that we are actually commenting on.

  • junkmail5 Feb 20, 3:10 p.m.

    Yeah, the UK has a massively higher violent crime rate than the US does-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

    Because criminals prefer unarmed victims.

  • readme Feb 20, 2:28 p.m.

    Grand Union, you are from Scotland? I am surprised to see you leaning to the left here. From my experience living in the UK, they need to be a lot tougher on crime, and the citizens would definitely benefit from some looser gun laws.

  • NYtoNC81 Feb 20, 1:50 p.m.

    4Strikes: OK...and? I never disagreed with that statistic but it means nothing. So what you are saying is, everyone is perfectly safe and shouldn't take any measures to protect themselves? We haven't quite reached utopia yet

    Me: I'm not saying that. You asked a question and then sarcastically answered it by using meaningless anecdotal evidence.

    I'm simply answering your question correctly by saying yes, North Carolina is a lot safer place to live than it has been in a long, long time.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 1:05 p.m.

    "Me: Yes, they are. Violent crime in North Carolina was at a rate of 349.8 per every 100,000 people in 2011. That number is the lowest since 1969." NTtoNC81

    OK...and? I never disagreed with that statistic but it means nothing. So what you are saying is, everyone is perfectly safe and shouldn't take any measures to protect themselves? We haven't quite reached utopia yet.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 12:57 p.m.

    "yeah then we can have a fire fight.....yeehaw!!!!!!!!"
    Grand Union

    We already have a fire fight, yeehaw. What you are proposing is that we disarm everyone on the side of the law and have it be a one-way fire fight...brilliant!

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 12:54 p.m.

    "Those people from fools like you whose actions are resulting in the US having 4X the murder rate of any comparable western country and have no positive on other crime figures."
    Grand Union

    Again, you are free to arm yourself or not. Or better yet, go back to Scotland. You are also free to move to Chicago or Washington DC, gun free zones for those of you that want to feel safe.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 12:51 p.m.

    "I'm sorry that the truth upsets you but it doesn't change the fact guns do not make you safer. Do you think the rapist would be so bold and successful if he didn't have a gun? Where do you think he got that gun?????" Grand Union

    I don't care where he got it, the point is he has it. Your statement of "fact" that guns do not make you any safer when facing an armed criminal is a straight-out lie. If it is your opinion (far from fact) that you will be more safe facing them unarmed, then you are more than welcome. Again, why do you feel so strongly that law abiding citizens should not have the right to defend themselves. Who's side are you on?

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 12:50 p.m.

    " but rather lazy, selfish, and criminalized. They are already armed. We are proposing that the people that want to lead a law-abiding life arm themselves."

    yeah then we can have a fire fight.....yeehaw!!!!!!!!

    did you ever stop to consider how the criminals get their guns?

  • NYtoNC81 Feb 20, 12:49 p.m.

    4strikes: Crime ratres are declining? Tell it to the women in Henderson, who have been raped. Maybe while your telling them, you can loan them a pair of your rose colored glasses?? Why do you feel the need to lash out at the people who suggest that women should learn how to protect themselves? Who are you trying to protect?

    Me: Yes, they are. Violent crime in North Carolina was at a rate of 349.8 per every 100,000 people in 2011. That number is the lowest since 1969.

    Nearly half of what it was in the early 1990s. It's amazing what the influx of higher paying jobs and higher wealth people were able to do for North Carolina, in general. No longer a laughing stock and as safe as it has been in generations.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 12:49 p.m.

    "Crime ratres are declining? Tell it to the women in Henderson, who have been raped."

    Typical silly comment.....

    " Maybe while your telling them, you can loan them a pair of your rose colored glasses?? Why do you feel the need to lash out at the people who suggest that women should learn how to protect themselves? Who are you trying to protect?"

    Those people from fools like you whose actions are resulting in the US having 4X the murder rate of any comparable western country and have no positive on other crime figures.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 12:43 p.m.

    "Still dishonestly including suicides in these stats I see!"

    If your child or spouse is dead through suicide does it hurt less?
    and guns make suicide attempts more successful and have much worse outcomes even if unsuccessful. Then of course guns make Murder suicide much more likely also......its a simple fact that you or your family are far more likely to be killed by your gun than by anyone elses.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 12:39 p.m.

    "If you really "care for your significant other" you will tell them not to listen to scared, insecure people who cling to guns because statistically crime rates are still declining. Believe it or not you are not going to drive to work tomorrow and be raped or shot despite what those who live their lives in fear want you to believe." Save It

    Crime ratres are declining? Tell it to the women in Henderson, who have been raped. Maybe while your telling them, you can loan them a pair of your rose colored glasses?? Why do you feel the need to lash out at the people who suggest that women should learn how to protect themselves? Who are you trying to protect?

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 12:38 p.m.

    This is an example of what I have been saying all along. A liberal fighting tooth and nail to protect the criminals, like the rapist in this article. Vote out all liberals, they do not care about your interests or safty. They are all the same.

    I'm sorry that the truth upsets you but it doesn't change the fact guns do not make you safer. Do you think the rapist would be so bold and successful if he didn't have a gun? Where do you think he got that gun????? He got it from a fool who didn't have it securely stored or it came from someone like you who didn't care much who bought it. Heck if the guy doesn't already have a record he probably bought it legally.

    Guns drive a lot of crime and make the outcomes much much worse. A can of mace is much more likely to make a difference than another gun in cases like these....

  • readme Feb 20, 12:36 p.m.

    "So I'm readin Henderson is a scary place full of destitute and desperate people. The proposed solution: arm them. Brilliant." - Save it. No, that's not what you are reading. You are reading that there is an increase in violent crimes using weapons by people that aren't destitute or desparate, but rather lazy, selfish, and criminalized. They are already armed. We are proposing that the people that want to lead a law-abiding life arm themselves.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 12:35 p.m.

    ""Blow a whistle to stop a rapist? That's equally as ridiculous as the chemicals in a woman's body that will prevent pregnancy during rape."

    No. It is not." Save It

    OK, you give your daughter a wistle, I will give mine a gun and train her how to use it. To each their own, this is America afterall.

  • Weaker Pelosi Feb 20, 12:32 p.m.

    Save it: Tell that to the victims. You never know when something like this could happen to you, or someone you care about.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 12:28 p.m.

    ""any place that has a certain % of Blacks, has been statistically proven to be unsafe. Until that can be discussed rationally""

    In the Scotland of my youth it was % of Catholics of Irish origins.....when I grew up I realized its socio-economic factors not what race, religion etc they happened to be.

  • Save It Feb 20, 12:17 p.m.

    "if you REALLY love and care for your significant other go out and purchase them a weapon and enroll them in a Concealed Weapons Carry class TODAY".

    If you really "care for your significant other" you will tell them not to listen to scared, insecure people who cling to guns because statistically crime rates are still declining. Believe it or not you are not going to drive to work tomorrow and be raped or shot despite what those who live their lives in fear want you to believe.

    Stop using fear to motivate your base, and stop scapegoating minorities. Immigrants, atheists and homosexuals will not be the downfall of a stable society, it will be ignorance and fear. The ignorance and FEAR so proudly displayed by the "go git ur gun" crew.

  • Save It Feb 20, 12:05 p.m.

    So I'm readin Henderson is a scary place full of destitute and desperate people. The proposed solution: arm them. Brilliant.

  • Save It Feb 20, 12:02 p.m.

    "Blow a whistle to stop a rapist? That's equally as ridiculous as the chemicals in a woman's body that will prevent pregnancy during rape."

    No. It is not.

  • NYtoNC81 Feb 20, 12:02 p.m.

    Vincent Vega: any place that has a certain % of Blacks, has been statistically proven to be unsafe. Until that can be discussed rationally with the disingenuous white libels and conservative inc.

    Me: It has less to do with skin color and more to do with socio-economic factors, obviously. Now, more African Americans live in urban poverty so I can see how you can make your conclusion and don't disagree that something real needs to be done about it.

    But you can't seriously think that just because someone has darker skin they will be more apt to commit crime, can you? That's dangerously close to getting in to a bell curve/eugenics type argument, which has been proven wrong time and again.

  • Save It Feb 20, 12:01 p.m.

    "any place that has a certain % of Blacks, has been statistically proven to be unsafe. Until that can be discussed rationally"

    It doesn't have as much to do with the color of their skin as the balance in their bank accounts, if any.

  • Cee-Lo Feb 20, 11:47 a.m.

    must everything that happens have to be about politics?

  • junkmail5 Feb 20, 11:11 a.m.

    And furthermore its a check of a single moment in time and does nothing to cover undiagnosed mental illness or problems after they get the license- Grand Union

    if you think a crazy guy is going to care if he has a license or not you just might be a crazy guy :)

    this entire line of thinking always baffles me.... "How do we KNOW that someone who goes through a bunch of extra effort and expense, taking multiple extra steps and many hours of his time, to insure he is staying within the law intended to stay within the law??"

    The question kind of answers itself to anyone with even a modicum of intelligence.

    So it does but realistically the odds of you being attacked are small and the odds that the gun will make any difference other than giving the attacker another gun smaller still....whilst the odds that the gun will end up being used to kill yourself or a friend/family member about 3X as high- GU

    Still dishonestly including suicides in these stats I see!

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 11:00 a.m.

    "any place that has a certain % of Blacks, has been statistically proven to be unsafe. Until that can be discussed rationally"

    LOL....Never going to happen

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 10:57 a.m.

    "the very desire to CC in most cases should be grounds enough not to allow them to have a gun at all." Grand Union

    This is an example of what I have been saying all along. A liberal fighting tooth and nail to protect the criminals, like the rapist in this article. Vote out all liberals, they do not care about your interests or safty. They are all the same.

  • cpdtg Feb 20, 10:56 a.m.

    When seconds count law enforcement is moments away That`s why I carry Place somelady undercovers around the area with more undercovers watchin and GET R DONE

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 10:52 a.m.

    "If you met some of the people in Henderson you wouldn't want more people carrying a gun. Just because someone has a gun doesn't mean 1. They will know how to use it quick enough and 2. Not end up getting shot theirself." - andreanicole686

    Not everyone is willing or capable of handling a gun. I feel sorry for people that are unable to protect themselves but that doesn't mean that I am not going to.

    "I live in Henderson and many of us are wondering why more isn't being done..."

    Who did you vote for? Talk to your mayor/city council/police chief/etc. Don't vote for liberals, they are on the criminal's side.

  • 4Strikes Feb 20, 10:48 a.m.

    "Blow a whistle to stop a rapist? That's equally as ridiculous as the chemicals in a woman's body that will prevent pregnancy during rape." smh.

    Yes it is, but the difference is, it was a liberal who said it, so the media will not try to destroy his life and career.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 10:37 a.m.

    "The tax payers, especially the women of Henderson deserve to know a DESCRIPTION of the man/men who have committed these horrible rapes as well as a DESCRIPTION of his vehicle. A very DETAILED DESCRIPTION of the man who shot the State Patrolman was streaming across the TV that evening, and he was captured less than 24 hours. Don't you think the WOMEN of Henderson deserve the same consideration?"

    I think they had the shooter of the State Trooper and his car on camera which is a much better aid to identification than any eye witness report.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 10:35 a.m.

    "First you have to pay for an 8 hour class that is licensed by the NC justice department. Runs from $55 to $100. Then you have to go to the Sheriff's office of the county you live in and fill out an application and be fingerprinted, costing $90. Then you must pass the SBI background check, NICS background check, and not have any major mental problems treated. Then you have to wait 30 - 90 days to get the permit.
    Someone who does all this isn't an dumb."

    I don't see anything in the above that would require anything more than the barest level of intelligence... And furthermore its a check of a single moment in time and does nothing to cover undiagnosed mental illness or problems after they get the license.......yes the process might catch the nuttiest and dumbest but other than that its pretty worthless. Doubly so when the very desire to CC in most cases should be grounds enough not to allow them to have a gun at all.

  • kbkline Feb 20, 10:34 a.m.

    That town is nothing but drug infested and I would never live there. Like most places there are nice areas there but not a lot and you do not want to go any where near the down town area. Just lots of drugs and that leads to this kind of stuff.

  • Grand Union Feb 20, 10:27 a.m.

    "Defending yourself from a rape with a handgun is taking the law into your own hands, the law allows it."

    So it does but realistically the odds of you being attacked are small and the odds that the gun will make any difference other than giving the attacker another gun smaller still....whilst the odds that the gun will end up being used to kill yourself or a friend/family member about 3X as high.

    "This guy, whomever he is, is a real peice of work. Guess he is to impotent to actually find a woman that is willing to have sex with him. What a pathetic man."

    Rape is about power not sex.

  • ncguy71 Feb 20, 10:26 a.m.

    I frequent Henderson to go out to eat several times a month.

    I never go to Henderson unless I am armed - day or night.

    Henderson Square shopping center, where the WalMart is, is a no no at night-time and questionable during the day.

  • smcallah Feb 20, 10:23 a.m.

    "If you met some of the people in Henderson you wouldn't want more people carrying a gun. Just because someone has a gun doesn't mean 1. They will know how to use it quick enough and 2. Not end up getting shot theirself. I live in Henderson and many of us are wondering why more isn't being done. It seems they have no leads what so ever which isn't helping anything."

    And if you knew what it takes to get a concealed carry permit, you would know that the people that get one would likely take the time to also learn what they are doing.

    First you have to pay for an 8 hour class that is licensed by the NC justice department. Runs from $55 to $100. Then you have to go to the Sheriff's office of the county you live in and fill out an application and be fingerprinted, costing $90. Then you must pass the SBI background check, NICS background check, and not have any major mental problems treated. Then you have to wait 30 - 90 days to get the permit.

    Someone who does all this isn't an dumb.

  • TB Feb 20, 10:19 a.m.

    The tax payers, especially the women of Henderson deserve to know a DESCRIPTION of the man/men who have committed these horrible rapes as well as a DESCRIPTION of his vehicle. A very DETAILED DESCRIPTION of the man who shot the State Patrolman was streaming across the TV that evening, and he was captured less than 24 hours. Don't you think the WOMEN of Henderson deserve the same consideration?

  • kimisufu Feb 20, 10:13 a.m.

    Blow a whistle to stop a rapist?
    That's equally as ridiculous as the chemicals in a woman's body that will prevent pregnancy during rape. smh.

  • Country Girlz Have MORE fun Feb 20, 10:08 a.m.

    Okay ladies time to stock up on your pepper spray, take self defense classes and pack some heat Survey show that the grocery store is a rapist #1 place to stalk..they target women on cell phones, loose clothing & pony tails..they avoid women with umbrellas or potential weapons. Ted Bundy lured women by asking for their help. Don't be afraid to live in your own town--protect yourself at all cost !!!!!

  • NYtoNC81 Feb 20, 10:07 a.m.

    smcallah: Huh? What evidence do you have of this other than your emotional feelings? People have been carrying concealed handguns for years in NC and there have been no vigilante hunt downs reported or mass shootings from a concealed carry permit holder. Defending yourself from a rape with a handgun is taking the law into your own hands, the law allows it.

    Me: Not to speak for him, but he was responding to someone who proposed vigilante justice and deputizing normal citizens to "patrol."

    Personally, with the amount of ignorance and hatred displayed on this very website on a daily basis, that frightens the heck out of me.

  • andreanicole686 Feb 20, 10:02 a.m.

    If you met some of the people in Henderson you wouldn't want more people carrying a gun. Just because someone has a gun doesn't mean 1. They will know how to use it quick enough and 2. Not end up getting shot theirself. I live in Henderson and many of us are wondering why more isn't being done. It seems they have no leads what so ever which isn't helping anything.

  • dontstopnow Feb 20, 10:02 a.m.

    This guy, whomever he is, is a real peice of work. Guess he is to impotent to actually find a woman that is willing to have sex with him. What a pathetic man.

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