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goldenosprey Feb 18, 12:05 p.m.
"Did anybody read the article who commented below?
It states: Expanding Medicaid would bring a projected $15 billion into the state’s economy, creating an estimated 25,000 jobs in health care and related sectors by 2016.
The economic expansion it would create would offset the cost."-Arthur D.
Nope, they were all to eager to parrot Rush & Hannity's talking points to engage in any reading comprehension or critical thinking. They think if you have no medical care other than the ER you can go see a doctor whenever you want, and that there's no corruption or inefficiency with private health insurance even though medicare is 5x more efficient. That's how we ended up with these clowns in the GA.
thewayitis Feb 18, 9:32 a.m.
jdupree -- I agree!
Frank Downtown Feb 16, 12:28 p.m.
Did anybody read the article who commented below?
Expanding Medicaid would bring a projected $15 billion into the state’s economy, creating an estimated 25,000 jobs in health care and related sectors by 2016.
The economic expansion it would create would offset the cost.
teleman60 Feb 16, 8:39 a.m.
The NC GOP appears to think that not accepting responsibility for their own citizens will somehow make all those sick poor people magically NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL!?!
It will only encourage all doctors and hospitals to KEEP ON DEFRAUDING MEDICARE AND MEDICAID -- conservative prosecutors feel that businesses don't deserve to face criminal charges no matter how many millions they steal.
Why should I buy car insurance -- been driving accident free for 40 years, I don't need car insurance, they can't make me buy it, that's socialism, isn't it?
NC is like a hillbilly reality show where shoe size IQ's strut their ignorance proudly after having sold the state to Art Pope and the Koch Bros, Art gets to be budget director!
You can't make this stuff up...
Bob3425 Feb 16, 7:23 a.m.
josephlawrence43-- O please stop speading rumors.
The government buy ammo in bulk, just like a lot of sport shooter do, it cheaper.
tjohnson27 Feb 16, 3:14 a.m.
What happen to my beloved state, the one that I tried so hard to get back to over the years, only to find that the people here are all coldhearted , uncompassionate and without common sense, isn't this what we live for, to help others...don't this simplest thing of helping suppose to be in our DNA.....
to help 500,000 people to get healthcare, to help people who have lost their job(due to no fault of their own), somehow we think just because we don't do this, somehow we will pay less taxes or our way of life will be taken away from us,
your taxes are still going to go up, and the state will tell you things like it is to take care of roads(that we overpaid to do the first time) or to build more schools (instead of helping the ones we got now), or to give the Governor employers a RAISE(that's a good one) or to give big business money to come here,(only for them to leave). or this is a good one...let charge people high taxes on their homes(knowing that their homes are not worth it). or
miseem Feb 15, 8:07 p.m.
Problem is, flattop, do you want to hire more employees to monitor the unemployment process?
jdupree Feb 15, 7:50 p.m.
There are no free rides, someone has to pay and Democrats don't care who as long as it's not them!
Flattop Feb 15, 7:46 p.m.
Gork, yes, throw many of them off unemployment. I was on unemployment for nine months. All I had to do was go to the State unemployment web site and answer weekly five questions and the check showed up in my bank account. The process is so bad. When I called to tell them that I had a job and asked how I end the unemployment, I was told to just not fill out the weekly questions. There are no checks and balances in the system so as long as the Feds keep extending unemployment their is no incentive for many people to go out an find a job. If you are in the lower income level and the weekly unemployment check is making up 80 to 90 percent of what you were earning then tell my why I would want this cash flow to stop.
josephlawrence43 Feb 15, 7:33 p.m.
roadrunner: tragically true..why is the govt. buying up 1.5 Billion rounds of assorted caliber ammo over the next 10 years? To beat back an invasion of Muslims??? Nope--to defend the government from fed up Americans.
rroadrunner99 Feb 15, 6:32 p.m.
The class warfare has started, and it's getting worse.
Terkel Feb 15, 6:31 p.m.
ids, the Feds are going to have to tailor their exchange to the rules of each of the 26 states that are letting them own this. If you thought our troubles with the new Medicaid system are bad, wait till you have to use an exchange built by the same group that had to pass it to see what's in it. Oh, this is not going to be pretty and I'm glad NC folded their arms.
ykm Feb 15, 6:21 p.m.
This state should not sign on to any program until the legislature and gov can explain how much money will be needed and where it comes from.
josephlawrence43 Feb 15, 6:07 p.m.
Gork: Wake up dude--NOBODY in NC is prevented from going to the doctor--just check out the emergency rooms at any hospital...Yes, paying patients and tax payers help pay for those who do not have insurance--but they do get to receive treatment.
Gork Feb 15, 5:54 p.m.
you know what's funny, while "you all" harp about the Kenyan president and want to throw 170,000 people off unemployment and prevent 500,000 people from being able to go to the doctor when they're sick - before they become critcally ill, you modify your very constitution to put discrimination in the State's DNA, you beg for them "high tech new businesses" to continue to come into the State. Don't you know those people are educated, young and bright - and they vote? You all should stop these job initiatives that attract new businesses from other, more enlightened locations...
Gork Feb 15, 5:50 p.m.
ids Feb 15, 5:23 p.m.
What is wrong with these pols - veto this bill........what is wrong with these Reps....its not like we are not going to pay for it, e.g., the tax on medical devices, individual mandate, tanning bed tax, and so on., this is where the money is coming from, so what is happening is that we will be paying for this, but not get any money back...don't any of these pols see the math problem -
As far as health exchange, I agree, I would rather use the Federal exchange, with the State exchange, the state gets to dictate the terms, and with this new REP maj, and the nutty laws they are passing, you know if they did run this, they would place so many restrictions on us..
whatelseisnew Feb 15, 5:08 p.m.
"The Fed will pick up the tab? Hmm...try the American tax payer will pick up the tab. The government doesn't have their own money."
The TAXPAYER pays for it NOT ANY GOVERNMENT. IT IS THE TAXPAYER THAT PAYS. Time to END Medicaid. Those folks should be moved over to Obama's wonderful new insurance program. That would allow money to be saved at the state and Federal level by being able to get rid of Government workers involved in Medicaid and allowing providers to save because they can eliminate all the work associated with dealing with Medicaid and its idiotic rules. Just think, a person could ACTUALLY have more than 2000 dollars saved up and still be able to get health insurance.
whatelseisnew Feb 15, 5:03 p.m.
Please pass it McCory. If the liar in chief wants to expand this miserable program then let him find the money to pay for it FOREVER. None of this junk of passing more and more of the cost to the States. Both Medicaid and Medicare should have been eliminated as part of ObamaCare. At least then, it would have actually had something positive instead of adding another huge program to be paid for on the backs of people that have private insurance.
Proud Black Constitutionalist Feb 15, 5:02 p.m.
Keep up the great work governor, this is why I voted for you. Now get to work on the voter ID initiative!
Nancy Feb 15, 4:33 p.m.
We can't afford it, many states can't, it's going to balloon costs and we don't have the money for it. Projected costs are enormous. And in a down economy, this is killer for many state budgets.
jdupree Feb 15, 4:23 p.m.
Like most Democratic objectives, if this were accepted, it would come with a big cost down the road. The GOP is being fiscally responsible. Taxpayers should not have to pick up the check for people who make bad education, marriage, pregnancy decisions and who have little or no motivation!
josephlawrence43 Feb 15, 4:15 p.m.
Lets see here: this program is going to create 25,000 jobs in NC, add how much money to our economy, increase tax flow to the state??? Did I hear that right? Seems as if I heard pretty much the same tripe when Obama was pushing his $860 BILLION dollar "stimulus"..70% of that ended up in foreign countries, the "shovel ready" part wasn't, after all, so shovel ready; I haven't seen any documentation that shows one job being created as a direct result of THAT mess..So, go right on ahead there Gov--protect your people and your state.
Flattop Feb 15, 4:08 p.m.
The Democrats who are fighting this represent the same mentality as those Democrats in Washington. Kick the Cost Can Down the Road and lets worry about it in the future. The Feds have said that they would pick up the cost for the first few years and then gradually the States would pick up the cost. So let me see-The Feds pick up the cost? Which means that the taxpayers pay for it through higher taxes since the Feds do not want to cut costs. The States end up paying for it regardless how bad our own financial house might be so this also ends up being paid for by us through State tax increases. Who wins-the people who generate little revenue for the State and a lot of cost through food stamps, welfare,etc. Governor-Sign the bill!!
mep Feb 15, 4:07 p.m.
Expand an already corrupt broken and wasteful system.... I think not.
working for deadbeats Feb 15, 3:54 p.m.
The Fed will pick up the tab? Hmm...try the American tax payer will pick up the tab. The government doesn't have their own money. It's OUR money. Breathe deep and think slow...you'll get it.
Terkel Feb 15, 2:15 p.m.
"...a piece of legislation that will deny hundreds of thousands of people in North Carolina coverage that they otherwise would be eligible to have," Rogers said."
No, they wouldn't have been eligible but for the fact of 0care. My understanding, and it could be wrong, is that these 500k are the "ER users" that we hear about. They can't or won't buy insurance. We paid for their treatments.
In order to exempt them from the fine/tax that the rest of us have to pay if we can't or won't buy ins, the nice guys and caring gals at the legislature decided we should to pay for Medicaid that the 500k would NOT normally qualify for, so they won't be fined under 0care. It's all smoke and mirrors. I don't plan to buy ins either, but no one's going to have to pay my fine.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2014-06-24 16:03:36