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  • westernwake1 Feb 15, 12:16 p.m.

    "westernwake1: Absolutely, categorically incorrect. Plus, you can't remove crime data from one place (the US) and not from the other (Europe) and then make a comparison...what the ***." -StuckHere

    Actually documented and proven in studies. Go look it up. Some people simply do not want to pay attention to informaiton that goes against their paradigm that the only violent crime solution is to take all the guns away from law abiding citizens.

  • bcde Feb 15, 11:20 a.m.

    If his wife was 24 and has a 9 year old by the man, it would mean that he was 21 and she was around 14 when she got pregnant. My question is why did he not get put in jail for child molestation or rape many years ago? The article said she was 24 now and he was 31 and there is a 9 year old and a 1 or 2 year old.

  • Eric the Actor Feb 15, 11:18 a.m.

    # 2 State on the list of per capita gun killings is South Carolina. So don't try and blame the whole problem on the brown people in the cities.

  • StuckHere Feb 15, 11:04 a.m.

    bombayrunner: "How many crimes are committed from citizens having a concealed weapons permit? ... ans = 0."

    It doesn't matter what number you put there, it's simply made up, but 0? LOL

  • StuckHere Feb 15, 11:00 a.m.

    westernwake1: Absolutely, categorically incorrect. Plus, you can't remove crime data from one place (the US) and not from the other (Europe) and then make a comparison...what the ***.

  • rocket Feb 15, 10:55 a.m.

    "You gun nuts are quite something."

    You don't make a strong case when all you have to offer is insults. It's the people with gun phobias that immediately try to deflect blame with regard these type of stories.

  • westernwake1 Feb 15, 10:51 a.m.

    "The United States has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world — by far. And it has the highest rate of homicides among advanced countries." - bombayrunner

    If you remove the cities (e.g. Chicago, D.C.) that have strict gun control laws from the crime statistics in the U.S. then the U.S. has a much lower murder and violent crime rate than the collective European Union. These strict gun control U.S. cities represent 5% of the popultion but 50% of the violent crime and murders.

  • Uhavenoclu Feb 15, 10:47 a.m.

    Maybe the gun law should be that everyone be permitted to carry a gun and you see someone shooting others for no reason you just shoot them? That will put an end to it.
    The more laws that restrict ones freedom. ..Drugs, guns, jobs, will cause this to happen whether you like the choices people make or not freedom is being allowed to choose.

  • Lightfoot3 Feb 15, 10:27 a.m.

    “You gun nuts are quite something.” – atheistswillrule


    Yes, the gun enthusiasts would prefer these ladies would have had a means to protect themselves rather than just dialing 911 and rolling the dice. As this incident and others show, sometimes you get snake-eyes. The anti-gunners might be tired of hearing “when seconds count the police are minutes away” but all too often we see the tragic results of this true saying.

  • gman007 Feb 15, 10:15 a.m.

    Welfare, may I suggest Chicago. They have strict gun control there. You'll be much safer.

  • bombayrunner Feb 15, 10:08 a.m.

    last thing then I'll leave ... Most killed by guns in the usa by far are from suicide. In Japan where they have 0 guns, their suicide rate is significantly higher. By gun or bridge ... folks just off themselves.

  • bombayrunner Feb 15, 10:03 a.m.

    The United States has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world — by far. And it has the highest rate of homicides among advanced countries. And yet, gun crime has been declining in the U.S. Firearm murders are down, as is overall gun violence – even as gun ownership increases.

  • bombayrunner Feb 15, 9:58 a.m.

    How many crimes are committed from citizens having a concealed weapons permit? ... ans = 0.

  • bombayrunner Feb 15, 9:56 a.m.

    This is in no way a violent state ... or violent country. I've been in countries where kids carry AK's and everything in between.

  • bombayrunner Feb 15, 9:53 a.m.

    “Another TYPICAL day in the United States of the NRA...” – StuckHere

    You are free to move too.

  • kimisufu Feb 15, 9:51 a.m.

    Perhaps if the victims had been armed they wouldn't be victims.

  • hmmmmm Feb 15, 9:36 a.m.

    This has nothing to do with having a gun to protect a family, or gun laws, or the NRA. This is nothing more than a selfish example of a human being who believes others are possessions to be controlled. Domestic violence has nothing to do with gun control, and new gun control laws will not stop it; shame on anyone who believes that. Domestic violence is about the loss of CONTROL over the victim. How many of you would go and create a terrifying situation and kill 2 innocent people especially with two small children in the house? Believe me, a domestic abuser will use ANYTHING to regain control over his victim, a gun is just one of many ways. I do not believe domestic abusers are sick either, they are just pathetic lowlifes.

  • Lightfoot3 Feb 15, 9:22 a.m.

    “Another TYPICAL day in the United States of the NRA...” – StuckHere


    Actually, this is what the anti-gunners on this forum wanted. They want innocent law abiding folks disarmed, and for them to call 911. As this case shows yet again, the police show up to draw the chalk outlines AFTER the crime is over.


    “another gun bought to "protect" their family ends up killing them.....” - Grand Union


    Perhaps you should read again. They were UNARMED like you like them. They dialed 911 like you like them to do when the bad guy shows up. For some reason, being defenseless and dialing 911 like you want people to do didn’t save them.

  • chattycat Feb 15, 9:21 a.m.

    This is such a violent state. I can't wait to get out of here.

    Welfare is a trap

    Hate to break the news to ya, but there is violence in every state in this country. You cannot completely escape it.

  • StuckHere Feb 15, 9:01 a.m.

    Another TYPICAL day in the United States of the NRA...

  • vsusu2002 Feb 15, 8:58 a.m.

    Welfare is a trap said "This is such a violent state. I can't wait to get out of here."

    This "State" is not violent, there are people in this "State" that are violent. Just curious, what "state" are you going to that's crime free?

  • working for deadbeats Feb 15, 8:27 a.m.

    This is such a violent state. I can't wait to get out of here.

  • RAA0013 Feb 15, 8:22 a.m.

    I really wish people would read the story and understand the facts before they make comments and assumptions.

  • doubletrouble Feb 15, 8:17 a.m.

    You can't fix stupid, with any gun bills you can come up with. NO woman/man is worth spending your life in prison or on death row. If you want to take your own life, fine...

  • lisaclark2 Feb 15, 8:10 a.m.

    "rebely" how do you know why this person purchased a gun... Not everyone buys a gun to protect their family. We have guns for hunting not to have just in case we need to shoot someone. Most sound minded people don't buy guns because they think they might have to protect their family... Ok, depending where you live.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 14, 7:18 p.m.

    another gun bought to "protect" their family ends up killing them.....

    Grand Union
    February 14, 2013 9:52 a.m.__________________________________ This kind out of character for you, assuming..Tsk, tsk....

  • Terkel Feb 14, 7:11 p.m.

    Read it again. Crazy man brought the gun with him, ex-wife managed to get it away from him after he'd killed two women, one maybe his own mother.

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