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  • esteryates69 Feb 14, 2:27 p.m.

    This judge was the most amazing one i ever hear,the way he spoke to the young lady about been shot tell her God had something he wanted her to do with her life is why she was not killed.Them told the young man some of the same things about his future out look in life,wish there was more judges like him.

  • slayerhil Feb 14, 12:19 p.m.

    Edit: wmp8396, as 'timexliving' stated in his/her original comment. I got you two confused. Either way, your comment was a bit over the top.

  • slayerhil Feb 14, 12:14 p.m.

    wmp8396, you make it sound like I am defending the shooter. Wow. I am simply stating that the girl's life wasn't taken as you had previously thought. That is what 'alive and well' means. No need to get defensive and deflective.

  • Lightfoot3 Feb 14, 9:58 a.m.

    "ok at first it said ..his cousin was jumped at a party the weekend and then it said he did it becvause he was bullied at school. which is it?" - pebbles262004


    I think one was a DA claim, with the other was a defense claim to get leniency. But who knows which is right.

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 14, 9:29 a.m.

    Can someone explain to us why these kids feel the need to "keep it real" look at all the destruction it causes. So proper payback for bruising your ego is to murder someone? How does a culture come to this?

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 14, 9:26 a.m.

    He'll be out in 5 years or less, because the prison will need the bed for a non-violent drug offender who caught a mandatory minimum sentence.

  • pebbles262004 Feb 14, 9:09 a.m.

    ok at first it said ..his cousin was jumped at a party the weekend and then it said he did it becvause he was bullied at school. which is it?

  • misty123 Feb 14, 9:02 a.m.

    @ biglaw1356 "Just wondering why this article didn't mention the defendant's name or a picture of them. Was it a secret? I know someone was sentenced but who?"

    The first picture is that of the defendent. The first two words of the 3rd paragraph state his name clearly. Please don't post a comment if you aren't even going to read the article thoroughly.

  • batcave Feb 14, 8:28 a.m.

    compassion, and logic than most posters

    people have opinions, one opinion doesn't have to transcend to another person, one of the reasons we have elections.That is logic.

  • biglaw1356 Feb 13, 7:54 p.m.

    Just wondering why this article didn't mention the defendant's name or a picture of them. Was it a secret? I know someone was sentenced but who?

  • PowderedToastMan Feb 13, 7:44 p.m.

    Still not enough time

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 7:31 p.m.

    jackflash123
    February 13, 2013 7:12 p.m................ That was very nice, and I'm proud of her for this, but I also think she is very naive that he'll "change his life" or that any prison term will do that.

  • jackflash123 Feb 13, 7:12 p.m.

    Wow, I just saw that this article has been updated to include quotes from Abercrombie herself: "I don't want you to spend the rest of your life in prison...but I really believe you need to go – not because I want payback for that but because hopefully to change you. I just want to say please change your life around."

    Wow. This 17-year-old who nearly died shows more maturity, compassion, and logic than most posters here. Some of you would bury him under the jail. I'm not sure how you can justify that stance when his victim already has a more gracious, forgiving attitude.

  • wmp8396 Feb 13, 6:56 p.m.

    "12 to 15 years? Is that all a life is worth these days?" The girl is alive and well. The shooter was charged with attempted 1st-degree murder including other charges. Everything is clearly explained in the article.
    slayerhil
    --wow, the girl is alive and well---really now. Did you miss the part of the article that mentions she still has a bullet lodged between her head and spinal cord---does that condition warrant 'well'. Yeah, I bet she is really living life up. So because of this 'alive and well' condition, these brillant low-lifes who committed this crime should get less time in prison. How about the victim? Seems the state (taxpayers) is embarking on paying a lot of hard earned money to house, protect, provide medical care, rehab counselors, etc. etc. to the criminals--ones who frankly deserve to be in a ditch or sewer--yet what is society doing for the victims? Our system is skewed terribly in the wrong direction and will only get worse.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 6:53 p.m.

    Sorry folks, but he'll be out in a year or so, and guess what? He'll be back in school with your younguns.

  • westernwake1 Feb 13, 6:44 p.m.

    Charles Underwood, who shot Catilyn is obviously a complete waste to society and will never amount to much. I was hoping for a much longer sentence than 12 to 15 years.

  • jmrado47 Feb 13, 6:19 p.m.

    We need to get tough on violent criminal activity in this state. The minimum sentence for a violent felony is ten years. A second violent felony is life without parole. Write to the new governor.

  • jackflash123 Feb 13, 6:05 p.m.

    " [Getting out of prison at 30 is a...] Prime age to do some real damage to society. Especially after being immersed in prison gang life, and victimization resentment for over a decade. Soon returning to a neighborhood near you, angry, armed, and dangerous. By then legal gun ownership will have been banned."

    Cool story, bro. Reminds me of my favorite juvenile fiction. Let me guess: You think he should be in prison forever and ever, or receive the death penalty through some medieval form of torture, or receive no kind of counseling and education and rehabilitation in prison b/c that means he gets something free off your tax dollars. Yeah, you've really thought this all through.

  • Ex-Republican Feb 13, 5:30 p.m.

    thefensk, thanks for the correction. However, even with that list of chares 12 to 15 is kind of light.

  • slayerhil Feb 13, 5:27 p.m.

    "12 to 15 years? Is that all a life is worth these days?"
    The girl is alive and well. The shooter was charged with attempted 1st-degree murder including other charges. Everything is clearly explained in the article.

  • thefensk Feb 13, 5:20 p.m.

    "12 to 15 years? Is that all a life is worth these days?"

    She was seriously injured but wasn't killed. Still, the shooter was trying to kill *somebody* ... but not her. She caught the bullet intended for another. Serious crime.

  • BWWHAAT. Feb 13, 5:18 p.m.

    is that the best picture they can find of the victim?

  • marciamal1 Feb 13, 5:13 p.m.

    It is terrible to see what society is like today - years ago, things were so much better - the music, the tv shows, the video games -years ago - it was pacman now, you put in a game and it's all about shooting - the music is terrible today - the lyrics are disgusting and the teens back then didn't think to shoot anyone - I look back and I am so thankful to have been raised in the 70's and 80's - to see what is going on with teens today - is really sickening!!! My prayers go out to this young lady who didn't ask to be SHOT!!! - I hope he learns a good lesson from picking up a gun and shooting at someone!

  • Ex-Republican Feb 13, 5:11 p.m.

    12 to 15 years? Is that all a life is worth these days?

  • aetius476 Feb 13, 5:07 p.m.

    "Now if he gets out in a year, I will agree, but if he pulls the sentence, he will be 30+ when he gets out." - signofthetimes

    Prime age to do some real damage to society. Especially after being immersed in prison gang life, and victimization resentment for over a decade.

    Soon returning to a neighborhood near you, angry, armed, and dangerous. By then legal gun ownership will have been banned.

    What a "justice" system we have....

  • HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Feb 13, 4:58 p.m.

    it's the 'harmless citizens' who are to blame, because they are the start of the chain of ownership and possession of the guns.
    fredk

    And by the way. There's nothing wrong with a chain of ownership as long as it's legal. Once the gun or any other weapon is stolen it then becomes owned illegally.....BY THE PERSON THAT STOLE IT. No one on these boards has ever said that someone should be prosecuted for having anything stolen from them unless it was a gun. Get your head out of the sand. I should be able to leave my guns on the table in my house with a door unlocked and they should be left alone. Having something stolen from you should NEVER make you a criminal unless you possessed it illegally in the first place. Keep wearing blinders and fighting for "gun control" and ignoring why people commit crimes in the first place and it will be a matter of time before the chickens come home to roost in your back yard. The only thing that will do is give you something else to complain about

  • foghat001 Feb 13, 4:56 p.m.

    He won't be going anywhere at 18.

  • HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Feb 13, 4:47 p.m.

    it's the 'harmless citizens' who are to blame, because they are the start of the chain of ownership and possession of the guns.
    fredk

    I won't ask if you're serious, because I know that you are. And I won't argue gun control with you, it would do neither of us any good. However, I will say to you and @stuckhere that until you start looking at the underlying causes that make violent people do what they do, instead of looking at what tools they use to carry it out, people will never do anything but argue. Violent people will be violent no matter what. It may make it harder to kill but kill they will. You are the ones that can't see the forest (violence) for the trees (guns)

  • SomewhereLeftOfRTP Feb 13, 4:45 p.m.

    Has the victim recovered fully? I'm more interested in her future than the shooter's.

  • beachboater Feb 13, 4:43 p.m.

    Air Biscuit - I think we all EXPECT serious consequences, whether we get them or not is yet to be decided.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 4:42 p.m.

    I'm glad this was some serious jail time, (even if he gets out in year of so),it shows our court need to get more serious on this type of crime. Now, I would like to ask all to call you reps and let them know that our school systems need serious overhaul. There is no way that a 17 or 18 year old should be in the 9th grade with 14 & 15 years old. (unless there is a medical condition that would be approved by the board of education). I don't think there should be 20 or 21 year old in the 11th grade either. One a student reach the age of 18 and it's certain that they'll need 3 years to graduate, they should be put out of the regular school and place in alternate schools, where they go to get their GED. Just about every county have them, it is call Adult education. By court records that what they are considered. If a kid can't get educated by the time they're 19 years old in the same school year, then there a problem and it ain't the school system.

  • dontstopnow Feb 13, 4:29 p.m.

    "He was sentenced to 12 to 15 years in prison". Air Biscuit that sounds like a pretty stiff sentence and definitely not a slap on the wrist. Now if he gets out in a year, I will agree, but if he pulls the sentence, he will be 30+ when he gets out.

  • dehowell2 Feb 13, 4:01 p.m.

    Well, he will get a slap on the wrist and get out when he is 18. I think if I were the parent of the girl that was shot I would be waiting for him to get out of his short term sentence.

  • JDAmbrosio Feb 13, 3:59 p.m.

    If there are no consequences at home during childhood, kids grow up thinking they can solve their differences and problems with violence. Teach your children well and quit blaming others for your own parental failings.

  • Air Biscuit Feb 13, 3:55 p.m.

    I have family at Cape Fear...the school has pulled together after this shooter forever changed the lives of over 1500 people, to include students and faculty.

    Sadly, knowing the liberal, feel-good judges in Cumberland County, this shooter will get a slap on the wrist. Fayetteville and Cumberland County are loaded with people who pity the criminal.

    This will be interesting to watch, but don't expect any serious sentences for this shooter.

  • jmrado47 Feb 13, 3:55 p.m.

    A long jail sentence is warranted in this case. The word has to get out there that this type of violent behavior is not going to be tolerated.

  • StuckHere Feb 13, 3:50 p.m.

    fredk: I totally agree with what you said, but on here most can't see the forest for the trees.

  • CharmedLife Feb 13, 3:39 p.m.

    The things this poor girl has already had to endure!! These kids had this all planned out and the charges should be stuck to them with some super glue!!! They shot and innocent bystander while trying to shoot their main target and missed the target! They shouldn't be allowed any slack

  • buford Feb 13, 3:36 p.m.

    @VariousGood...she lived...

  • jackflash123 Feb 13, 3:32 p.m.

    She didn't die. What is her condition now, though? Has she recovered (almost) fully? Is she disabled?

  • beachboater Feb 13, 3:18 p.m.

    Hey, it was planned. That's attempted first degree murder. He should get some serious time for that and carrying a gun on school property.

    No mercy for mean teens.

  • smegma Feb 13, 3:17 p.m.

    ridiculous Gov wants to take us harmless citizens' firearms but do NOTHING about these punk kids getting them, and THEN throwing them in a cozy jail cell to PAMPER them with us harmless citizens' TAX MONEY!

    ENOUGH! may this girl rest in peace. i'd say what they should do with the shooter but that's beyond redundant now

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