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  • lostgirl12 Feb 19, 3:47 p.m.

    "good move legislature. $500 a week is $26K a year and that is a lot more than annual minimum wage $18.2K

    sure it's tough.......but that's a great motivator to get any job. wakewiseone"

    I was earning $26k a year and my unemployment benefits are NOT $500 a week, are you kidding??...you need to get a clear understanding of the system before throwint out incorrect facts and figures.

    And guess what? Finding a job that makes enough to support you, equal to what you had before, IS NOT THAT EASY.

    P.S. And thank you, junkmail5, for the clarifications.

  • lostgirl12 Feb 19, 3:41 p.m.

    littleriver69,

    I guess you must be happily employed while some of us who work very hard got laid off due to lack of work and can't find a job. I am college educated, have sent out hundreds of resumes, and NO I cannot live on minimum wage, period.
    So now my unemployment is about to run out just because we are rejecting federal money. Let me know where you live and I'll come hang out with you, sounds like you have no worries.

  • onemorefromtheroad2002 Feb 13, 9:26 p.m.

    do you really think the state undercharged these businesses and besides that if youve ever been and filed for unemployment they calculate how much you have paid in sitting there in front of you as well as sent you a letter in the mail telling you in detail how much you made in the quarter your drawing off of how much you paid in and how much you will get ive done this more than once in the last 25 years so yeah i know exactly what im talking about

  • onemorefromtheroad2002 Feb 13, 9:05 p.m.

    federal extended benefits is a bunch of bull. IF I WORKED FOR 30 YEARS THAT MEANS I PAID IN FOR 30 YEARS. THAT MEANS 26 WEEKS PER YEAR TIMES 30 YEARS IM ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE. EQUAL TO 780 WEEKS. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE IT COMES FROM IF THE STATE SPENT IT THE STATE SHOULD PAY IT BACK. I CANT HELP IT IF ALL Y'ALL PEOPLE LIVE A NICE FANTASY LIFE WITH YOU HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART AND HAVE THAT DREAM JOB THAT APPARENTLY Y'ALL LIVE UNTIL YOU ARE OUT LOOKING FOR A JOB AND THINK ITS THAT EASY TO FIND ONE THAT PAYS FOR YOU TO LIVE. GREAT MOTIVATOR TO HELP YOU FIND A JOB BULL. 350 DOLLARS UNEMPLOYMENT A WEEK IS STILL MORE THAN MCDONALDS. UNTIL Y'ALL WORK AND LIVE WHAT LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU CALL LIFE WITH YOUR FAMILY ON IT I WOULDNT BE TALKING ABOUT IT. ITS MY MONEY I PAID IT IN FOR WHEN I NEED IT AND NEITHER YOU NOR THE GOVERNMENT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL ME I HAVE TO LOWER MY STANDARD OF LIVING AND I HAVE TO GIVE UP WHATS ALREADY MINE.

  • tpmclee Feb 13, 5:59 p.m.

    Junkmail5, thank you for clearing that up for me. It is greatly appreciated.

  • junkmail5 Feb 13, 5:47 p.m.

    A federal loan to the state. The money has to be paid back to the federal government. It wasn't a handout.
    Riddickfield

    totally and completely wrong.

    FEDERAL extended benefits are a FEDERAL program.

    The money comes from the feds.

    The state does not pay it back.

    The state only pays for 26 weeks and that's it.

    Serious, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    The borrowed money is because the # of unemployed shot up during the recession, and the state didn't have the $ for those 26 weeks.

    Because they had been under-taxing businesses for years.

    So instead of now making those businesses pay it back, they're jacking the unemployed for the cash.

    That's what's happening here.

  • Riddickfield Feb 13, 5:38 p.m.

    "the STATE never paid more than 26 weeks.

    All the extended benefits are federal."

    A federal loan to the state. The money has to be paid back to the federal government. It wasn't a handout.

  • junkmail5 Feb 13, 5:19 p.m.

    good move legislature. $500 a week is $26K a year and that is a lot more than annual minimum wage $18.2K

    sure it's tough.......but that's a great motivator to get any job.
    wakewiseone

    You realize folks making min wage weren't getting 500 a week right?

    It was folks making north of $50,000 that got the $500.

    So that's a 50% or greater pay cut.

    You can bet they'd be in a hurry to find another job closer to what they used to make.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 5:17 p.m.

    sure it's tough.......but that's a great motivator to get any job.

    wakewiseone
    February 13, 2013 5:08 p.m.
    ----------- No offense intended, but I don't think you've read the whole article, or know the whole truth of this.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 5:15 p.m.

    The reason the STATE is in debt is they undercharged the businesses for years, so the fund to pay those 26 weeks was far too small to deal with an uptick in the number of people unemployed.

    You might wanna learn how what you're talking about works before talking about it.

    junkmail5
    February 13, 2013 4:53 p.m.------------------------ Dead on with this one. They over paid, but then didn't want to collect the money back. The computer system was so screwed up, they under paid some, way over paid others, then they "oh well" we'll have to pay it back. Took two years to get rid of the director, and no one was fired for this. Oh, now they'll pay the money back, in three years! But at what cost our economy and those who'll suffer for it.

  • wakewiseone Feb 13, 5:08 p.m.

    good move legislature. $500 a week is $26K a year and that is a lot more than annual minimum wage $18.2K

    sure it's tough.......but that's a great motivator to get any job.

  • junkmail5 Feb 13, 4:53 p.m.

    No, but when they went to 99 weeks and bankrupted the system now the money is all gone-Riddickfield

    Uh, what?

    the STATE never paid more than 26 weeks.

    All the extended benefits are federal.

    The reason the STATE is in debt is they undercharged the businesses for years, so the fund to pay those 26 weeks was far too small to deal with an uptick in the number of people unemployed.

    You might wanna learn how what you're talking about works before talking about it.

  • Rebelyell55 Feb 13, 4:52 p.m.

    Sorry you got the short end of the stick.

    Riddickfield
    February 13, 2013 4:30 p.m.------------------------------------ Some of what you say is true, but the effort to recovery the over payment didn't happen. The business, still have to pay a portion to the Fed's funds, which has it stands, no on in NC will get any of it. Fact, the workers, who are the one suffering, will pay back this money, while business who can afford it, are getting off the hook big time. The business knew they were going to get an increase, (back to what they were paying), but this don't even bring them back to what they paid percentage wize three years ago. This is a bad deal for NC, and is nothing but a polictical statement by the Republican to show how much they're willing to sell out the citizens of NC for Corp. profits.

  • Riddickfield Feb 13, 4:30 p.m.

    "I worked for 30 years straight without a break,I paid my taxes and gave where I could, this year I get laid off,,,and you telling me it is too much to help me with 525 a week for 26 weeks?
    tjohnson27"

    No, but when they went to 99 weeks and bankrupted the system now the money is all gone. Now they have to tighten the belt because there is literally NO MORE MONEY IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM. If Bev had stuck with the original 26 week unemployment plan we would not have to take such measures now. The system was set up for that, but Bev bankrupted it to the tune of $2.5 billion in debt. Sorry you got the short end of the stick.

  • sammyg Feb 13, 4:16 p.m.

    Why is it always the little guy who gets the shaft?

  • wral mods blow close my account Feb 13, 2:58 p.m.

    A sliding cap of 12 to 20 weeks!

    Can you feel the GOP love? If you voted GOP, remeber that when times are tough and the morgage is past due. You have only yourself to blame.

  • souljp1 Feb 13, 2:15 p.m.

    before it's all over and done, most local Republicans are going to wish Bev Perdue was back in charge...

  • jhk0704 Feb 13, 1:20 p.m.

    I can not take a job making $10 an hour and be able to pay my bills. And there is no one hiring in my mountain town with a 75 mile radius. I guess when this bill passes I will file for bankrupacy and someone else will have to foot that bill

    Ever thought of trying to take more than one job? move to a place that is hiring? Are you kids getting financial aid or are you and your husband paying for all of college or some of it? Sacrifices have to be made in a awful economy. When the economy tanks and you lose your job your lifestly has to make drastic changes also. The goverment is not responsible for giving you enough money to sustain the lifestle you lived prior to losing your job

  • Scubagirl Feb 13, 12:42 p.m.

    OK so they have done this to help NC, NOW let them rescind their raises most recently given and NOT give themselves another until the economy of NC is better. That's only fair.

  • mountain_luver Feb 13, 12:32 p.m.

    How come you pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps people never get on people who get free health care in the ER? Your hero Ronald Reagan made it mandatory to treat them. By the posts I've read here, shouldn't it be tough luck for them if they have no money or insurance? Just looking for consistency.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Feb 13, 11:47 a.m.

    We are paying to pick up trash, I saw a dot crew on I40 today,, bet they all were making 12.00 per hour or more,,, Put the chain gangs back on the road,,, let them in Jail work on the farms and raise their food,, Dont work Dont eat..Do away with the rec areas, tv and such, put them to work cutting grass, Something to earn their keep
    oleguy

    I use to think that a good idea too. Until I found out how much it costs to put those gangs back on the road.

  • miketroll3572 Feb 13, 11:45 a.m.

    Republicans raising taxes on businesses? At least I agree that unemployment needs to be cut. To many people just sitting around collecting. Time to force them to get a job and not waiting for one that suits their wants.

    I was laid off last April. I have applied for over 400 jobs and gotten 17 interviews. I want to work bad, but the jobs are just not there. When unemployment runs out, I will have to put my house up for sale. If it doesn't sell, foreclousure. With no job looks like I will be in the welfare and food stamp line with all the others.

  • ramseytam Feb 13, 11:33 a.m.

    I'm a 45 year old out of work retail manager who lost her job of $54500 last april. I have 2 children in college and a husband who makes $27000 annually. I draw the max on unemployment benfits. And I am barely able to make my monthly payments and but the necessities. I can not take a job making $10 an hour and be able to pay my bills. And there is no one hiring in my mountain town with a 75 mile radius. I guess when this bill passes I will file for bankrupacy and someone else will have to foot that bill.

  • tran Feb 13, 11:21 a.m.

    If you thought the job losses due to outsourcing were bad, you ain't seen nothing yet. Automation is poised eliminate untold numbers of jobs at all levels. Particularly hard hit will be the kinds of low wage jobs some of you think the unemployed ought to rush out and get.

    One example is cashiers. The lowly cashier is quietly going the way of the Dodo bird. Grocery stores, hardware stores and other retail stores are installing automated check out lines. In a few years, there may be no cashiers. This is only one example.

    Many jobs can be automated and as soon as it becomes cost effective, they will be. As rapidly as technology is progressing and costs of implementing it are coming down, this process is likely to accelerate. The social fallout will outpace policy.

    Many of the new industries touted at the recent emerging issues forum will not create many jobs because the plants will be automated. Technology is eliminating far more jobs than it creates.

  • bill0 Feb 13, 11:08 a.m.

    " I have a son and daughter in college now working full time. And no, I'm not getting anything from the government."

    This has to go up there with "Keep your government hands off my medicaid".

  • Proud Black Constitutionalist Feb 13, 11:00 a.m.

    "I'll bet you don't have to pay excessive car insurance premiums for a teenage driver because the state of NC says you have to either."

    @Starglow2005,

    If my kids want to drive, they'll work to earn money to pay for their car insurance and fuel. I have a son and daughter in college now working full time. And no, I'm not getting anything from the government. I have since taken on a part-time job that nobody else wanted washing cars.

  • b4reelnow Feb 13, 10:52 a.m.

    An idea, let the mccory cabinet members that just got raises pay extra taxes. Now just where in the Hamsandwich is all those jobs for all of the people that are unemployed ??? Everybody talking but nobody putting jobs where their mouth is. Speak a little louder we can't hear you!!! If the shoe was on the other foot, what would you do? Truth be told, some of y'all making all these comments would probably jump off a cliff if you lost your job or means of living simply because of the loss of your so called "status quo." Sad but true.

  • dwntwnboy2 Feb 13, 10:06 a.m.

    I think the elected officials should be paid minimum wage. They think you can live off that- let em try. To cut umemployment for so many will only hurt those that the system was designed to help. THEY get pay raises before they even start their jobs, yet have NO problem cutting other people's life-lines. Disgusting really.

  • WageSlave Feb 13, 8:37 a.m.

    Yeah...and I'll bet you don't have to pay excessive car insurance premiums for a teenage driver because the state of NC says you have to either. Add that to already high fuel costs and $289 per week won't even come close.
    starglow2005

    Then your teenager can't afford to drive! If they are going to school, then ride the bus. If they are going to work....then they can pay thier own way.

  • littleriver69 Feb 13, 8:10 a.m.

    A step in the right direction! Finally.

  • itneverchanges Feb 13, 8:08 a.m.

    Great stop what little momentum there is in the economy by cutting off the ones who need it most. Time for a reality slap in the face for all the blind BO sheep who just keep on getting the hand outs. Get ready for the next wave of foreclosures and welfare lines. McCrory was handed the worst possible scenerio from the Obama clone Purdue and drove the good ole NC into the ground for the socialist agenda...... the horror the horror!

  • Reformed Liberal Feb 13, 8:01 a.m.

    Republicans raising taxes on businesses? At least I agree that unemployment needs to be cut. To many people just sitting around collecting. Time to force them to get a job and not waiting for one that suits their wants.

  • klapa Feb 13, 1:19 a.m.

    This whole thing - and McCrory - are so ridiculous.

    Here they give up ~800 MILLION in FED money that would be in the state economy - and cast out thousands from said economy.

    You all think this will result in "jobs" for NC by reducing business taxes? LOL!

    Let us see a business tax break based on creating jobs IN THE USA - and extra tax for those businesses that are "outsourcing" overseas. Bet you won't see that - not from the Republicans - nor the Democrats - because there is no difference between either of them - except for whom is paying them.

    The "notion" that people on unemployment are "on the dole" is misguided. These are people that have worked hard - and their taxes have been payed. I could see cutting benefits for those that have been on unemployment for over a year - but for the new people?

    Oh yea - the tax on food is a good idea too - I like McCrory's explanation that this is "equitable for everyone".

    What a tragic joke this guy is - I think he will be recalled.

  • diane7183 Feb 12, 9:45 p.m.

    This is the worst possible decision. I have never liked the Republican philosophy to begin with but this takes the cake. I had a friend in Georgia that was capped at the $350 per week unemployment compensation. She did, however, get extended benefits. Despite this, she lost everything because $350 a week could not affort her car and house payments. This does not even include food, electric and other essentials that were necessary because she was laid off from her job. She lost all her personal savings as well as her retirement earnings. She is also an older person (50+), and we all know that it becomes much more difficult to find a new job with age. I can't believe that this legislation passed, and I can't even imagine what this will do to the NC economy. However, the Republicans have no problem voting themselves another raise. Disgusting!

  • onemorefromtheroad2002 Feb 12, 9:12 p.m.

    unemployment is NOT A HANDOUT its a tax that your employer pays into the commission for you when the company you work for lays you off goes out of business or whatever as long as you did not quit or get fired and you cannot recieve foodstamps,medicade or wic while you are drawing unemployment because its more income than they allow which is somewhere around 500 dollars a MONTH depending on the county you live in. i work construction and from time to time i need unemployment benefits because here lately the economy slows work down so BEFORE YOU START SHOOTING YOUR MOUTH OFF ABOUT THE MONEY THAT IS PAID IN FOR MY UNEMPLOYMENT FOR ME YOU NEED TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT like confucius says it is better to keep mouth shut and appear stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt

  • oleguy Feb 12, 9:07 p.m.

    We are paying to pick up trash, I saw a dot crew on I40 today,, bet they all were making 12.00 per hour or more,,, Put the chain gangs back on the road,,, let them in Jail work on the farms and raise their food,, Dont work Dont eat..Do away with the rec areas, tv and such, put them to work cutting grass, Something to earn their keep

  • starglow2005 Feb 12, 9:04 p.m.

    Having retired four years ago, my family was living on $289.00 per week. I was able to do make it, but I had to cancel cable, magazine subscriptions and cell phones. I had no problem at all.
    Proud Black Conservative

    Yeah...and I'll bet you don't have to pay excessive car insurance premiums for a teenage driver because the state of NC says you have to either. Add that to already high fuel costs and $289 per week won't even come close.

  • jtd1969 Feb 12, 9:02 p.m.

    Where do yawl think the money is being spent by the unemployed??? Now the GOP is raising taxes on the business unemployment tax... Who comes out ahead???
    Salaries of the law makers...

  • oleguy Feb 12, 9:02 p.m.

    Its not about poor americans,, It is about living within your means,,, the country is broke,,,Tighten up folks its gonna get worse,,, the gravy train is over,,, start taking control of your life...

  • starglow2005 Feb 12, 8:38 p.m.

    What the legislature is trying to do is make it APPEALING for companies to come here and put people to work. Not make it less appealing and keep people on unemployment benefits forever.
    TVs_Deceit

    No...what they're doing is just making it easier and much cheaper for corporate companies to lay off more NC workers and send those jobs to China and India for more profit while the execs laugh all the way to the bank to deposit their millions.

  • tjohnson27 Feb 12, 8:31 p.m.

    I worked for 30 years straight without a break,I paid my taxes and gave where I could, this year I get laid off,,,and you telling me it is too much to help me with 525 a week for 26 weeks?

  • FlagWavingFascistCrank Feb 12, 8:16 p.m.

    All this compassion from the Christian Conservatives is SO touching, ain't it?

    You see these caring, kind folks every Sunday, sittin' front and center with their halos flickering.....full of love for their fellow man!

    "I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians....they are not like your Christ" Mahatma Gandhi

  • DoingMyBest Feb 12, 7:55 p.m.

    "Taxing the company who can better afford it, and who was the one who benefitting from taxes being too low that CAUSED the problem, makes a lot more sense."

    It does if you don't have a clue how to manage and run a business

  • BULLDOZER Feb 12, 7:51 p.m.

    How about going back to all of those people who got checks that are now employed and ask them to pay back a small amount. Surely that would help instead of saddling employers with even more burden.

  • miseem Feb 12, 7:49 p.m.

    Good idea, let's raise taxes on companies so even MORE of them won't open in North Carolina and provide jobs.
    NOnono! Let's cut business taxes to zero. In fact, let's PAY them to locate here (or are we already doing that). But at least we can let businesses tax us. After all, as everyone knows, business just passes the tax on in prices. So if they can save money by taxing us, I'm sure the prices they charge will drop. So we'll save tons of money by letting businesses charge us for locating in our communities. We can cover their police/fire protection, train their workers, maintain roads, rails, airports and other infrastructure so they can sell their product cheaper. To Brazil.

  • junkmail5 Feb 12, 7:42 p.m.

    Sorry, the bill has to be paid. Now, they are raising unemployment taxes on NC businesses too- Nancy

    Yes. $21 per month on businesses. Who got to enjoy really low unemployment taxes for years, which is the CAUSE of the problem.

    Versus a $200 a WEEK cut to the unemployed, who spend every dollar of that money in the local economy to cover their basic bills.

    THAT seems fair.

    No, wait, the opposite of that.

  • miseem Feb 12, 7:42 p.m.

    Dont give me this economic activity garbage. If these people habve been unemployed for how long and economic activity has been anemic at best. It doesnt wash.

    Crumps, it's hard to prove anything without a blind study, and we can't do that in this case. In drug tsting, you have two or three groups receiving different treatments,, none knowing who is getting what treatment. Can you prove that the economy would have been better or worse without the extended unemployment benefits? Seems like you have a crystal ball since you know for a fact that the extended unemployment has been a failure. Of course, it's also possible the economy would have been even worse off without extended unemployment. Can you PROVE it would not have been worse? I doubt it. Anymore than I can prove definitely helped. I'll leave that one up to the economist. Not Fox News.

  • lessismore Feb 12, 7:41 p.m.

    Obama says the private sector is doing just fine.....we are in a recovery..... Why is everyone concerned with unemployment benefits? Obama says jobs are abundant..... But, his agenda has made people lazy....now they believe welfare is a "right"....no one should work if they don't want to. They want unemployment pay forever..... They voted for Obama again and it's not fair that should be cut off benefits.....where' my check???

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 7:37 p.m.

    junkmail: "Taxing the company who can better afford it"

    Good idea, let's raise taxes on companies so even MORE of them won't open in North Carolina and provide jobs.

    What the legislature is trying to do is make it APPEALING for companies to come here and put people to work. Not make it less appealing and keep people on unemployment benefits forever.

    The climate for job creation needs to be improved. Only then will recruiting companies work. As of now we're competing with state's that have a better business climate, and we're losing. The Legislature is trying to change that.

  • arell50 Feb 12, 7:35 p.m.

    The Lawmakers can act on this pretty fast but when it comes to Illegals they sit on their hands. How many illegals are drawing off the system has anyone checked that? we paid for the unemployment and we should get full payment when we need it.

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