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  • miseem Feb 12, 2013

    Hate to break it ot a lot of you people, but in addition to the 6% state employees pay for retirement, the state kicks in a big chunk. Even under the GOP for the last two years. And I can't complain about the salaries most of them make - it's basically minimum wage. At least while they are in the GA. And the last pay raise was not 1%.It was 1.2% That's $40 a month for someone making $40,000 per year, and first raise in several years. Of course now state employees have to pay more than that on health insurance and much more on higher deductibles and spend an arm and a leg to cover family or spouses. It used to be OK since they could lay back and read the newspaper all day and not work. But have you seen a newspaper recently?

  • Plenty Coups Feb 12, 2013

    "Some people just don't know any better, and would be happy as a clam to relieve you of your hardships."

    Right, state workers should just grin and bear it and never ask for raises-just so you don't have to pay more in taxes, right? While the private sector sees raises of 1.5-4% on average per year, state workers should never get raises...unless you're friends with McCrory. Then you may be entitled to a modest raise of...say 8%.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 12, 2013

    "There was a modest raise of 6-13K for a FEW positions that aided with hiring the level of talent needed to run large departments properly"

    LOL. Modest raises. While state workers have been given 1% "less than modest raises" over the last 5 years you can't justify this no matter how much you try to spin and twist it.

  • FlagWavingFascistCrank Feb 12, 2013

    Tillis is gittin' within HIS organization, known as ALEC....and they'll be rewarding him for his help in having their legislation passed in NC, and he'll get money to spend somewhere else.

    Terry Sanford and William Friday are spinning in their graves....

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 2013

    There's no hypocrisy here geosol, other than your blindness to the facts in order to put forth a false claim.

    All those complaining about staff raises.. McCrory's staff salaries are on track to be lower than Perdue's. His chief of staff's salary is 8% lower than Perdue's chief. Policy adviser Tony Almeida is making $135,000 annually, while his predecessor made $155,848.

    There was a modest raise of 6-13K for a FEW positions that aided with hiring the level of talent needed to run large departments properly. Properly is the key word.

    Currently 38 people have been hired for the Governor's Office, while early in Perdue's administration, 70 people were hired.

    All in all.. McCrory is spending FAR less than Perdue. It's his goal to spend less than Gov. Perdue, and he's made a concerted effort to do so, and so far the new hires are being paid less than what Perdue paid.

  • geosol Feb 12, 2013

    HYPOCRITE, thy name is REPUBLICAN!

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 2013

    It's disconcerting that State employees are forced to suffer under such onerous circumstances.

    You are too good to suffer such insults. You should all just quit and make room for the people who aren't aware that these circumstances are a burden.

    Some people just don't know any better, and would be happy as a clam to relieve you of your hardships.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 2013

    Repeat after me: "Fiscal Responsibility"

  • dirtydozen431 Feb 12, 2013

    Landslides have conseqences.

  • dirtydozen431 Feb 12, 2013

    Happy days are near again

  • olderbassman Feb 12, 2013

    "My wife (not a state employee) puts into a 401k. Her job matches what she puts in!! Her account is already worth over 350k and she is only half way through! She will have a lot more than more when she retires..."

    I see your 401k and up you one. My wife is part of the State Employees Retirement System. She is forced to put 6% of her earnings into the fund each payday. The state has not matched anything for years. She contributes to a 401k that has no match. All of this for managing 11 employees with a salary of 30K after 12 years of service. One pay raise of 1% since 2008. All for a pension that will be roughly 14K per year based on today's dollar. This is closer to the norm than what you see in the paper for political employees.

    Now the question is what about your retirement savings?

  • olderbassman Feb 12, 2013

    "All state and municipal employees should pay for their own health insurance when retired like private workers. Pensions should be abolished and 401k program utilized. Pension payments should not begin until age 65 , like SS. It's time to level the playing field and do what's fair to the taxpayer -
    stopthespending"

    Let's see, I retired in my early 50's on a private company pension that unlike NC public employees I did not contribute to. In addition my salary was about twice that of an equivalent state employee. Sounds like a pretty level playing field to me (if not skewed to me).

  • DJ of Clayton Feb 12, 2013

    Does the state need multiple police agencies, each with its own chain of command, or could we save some money by consolidating them into a single force? How much money could be saved if the highway patrol, SBI, ALE, Marine Fisheries, Wildlife Resources, State Capital Police, General Assembly Police were consolidated into a single force, with a unified chain of command?

  • exteacher Feb 12, 2013

    Where are the JOBS????

  • DJ of Clayton Feb 12, 2013

    Don't get me wrong, I am ALL ABOUT saving money. The state of NC is hemorrhaging money. But there are a lot of ways to do that. While it seems 'mean', MEDICAID has to be overhauled- badly. People with MEDICAID routinely call an ambulance (that cannot refuse them) to go to the hospital ER for trivial matters that would much better be handled by other means. And this is just one example...

  • whatelseisnew Feb 12, 2013

    "Just so you know, Except for the Speaker and Senate President Pro Tempore, members of the legislature do NOT get paid a lot of money.

    every other member of the General Assembly shall be paid an annual salary of thirteen thousand nine hundred fifty-one dollars ($13,951) payable monthly, and an expense allowance of five hundred fifty-nine dollars ($559.00) per month."

    They should be paid ZERO. I would give them a per diem when the legislature is in session, but only to those that live outside of Raleigh. If they do not like the pay, then they do not have to be in office. there is zero need to pay these people.

  • whatelseisnew Feb 12, 2013

    I get what he is saying, but what needs to happen is ZERO based budgeting. the simple path would be to book FLAT budgets even if revenues are increasing. Any increased revenues should go to paying off the Debt run up by the Democrats and to fix the liability of the benefits programs for State retirees that are seriously deficient. The flat budget will FORCE agencies to be more productive because they will have to reduce workers and require those that are left to do more. JUST LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR does it.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 12, 2013

    "Who Cannot make ends meet at $37,500?? MAN; I need to go work for the government!! ;)" twoboys

    "Apparently the secretaries that work for Mccrory. They made twice that amount and he gave them huge raises so they could afford to "live"."

    Actually, they made over three times that amount. Around $120,000.

  • BigSteamnTurd Feb 12, 2013

    Job well done Mr. Tillis. Now get on to the other items on the agenda.

  • smalldogsrule Feb 12, 2013

    So have the Lawmakers of NC reduced their own salaries, perks and benefits?????????

    Just so you know, Except for the Speaker and Senate President Pro Tempore, members of the legislature do NOT get paid a lot of money.

    every other member of the General Assembly shall be paid an annual salary of thirteen thousand nine hundred fifty-one dollars ($13,951) payable monthly, and an expense allowance of five hundred fifty-nine dollars ($559.00) per month.

    http://www.ncleg.net/ncgainfo/educational/funfacts/legpay.html

  • hjeck32544 Feb 12, 2013

    Time to shut the turnpike authority completely.

  • soldboymil41 Feb 12, 2013

    elections have consequences

  • schooldoctor Feb 12, 2013

    The gentleman that commented about paying retirement for others must have escaped from a can of tuna. I guess he does not understand that the cost of every employees benefits are passed on to the consumer including his. If a farmer is smart enough to pay into his own retirement it is included in the cost of his product.

    Amazing, smart enough to use a computer and dumb enough to stand in the rain.

  • lalaloo Feb 12, 2013

    Who Cannot make ends meet at $37,500?? MAN; I need to go work for the government!! ;)
    twoboys

    Apparently the secretaries that work for Mccrory. They made twice that amount and he gave them huge raises so they could afford to "live". Wonder what he thinks of the hundreds of state employees making way less than $30000/yr? He sure doesn't care enough to offer them a huge raise to "live".

  • tommys5 Feb 12, 2013

    My wife (not a state employee) puts into a 401k. Her job matches what she puts in!! Her account is already worth over 350k and she is only half way through! She will have a lot more than more when she retires...
    And your point being.................................other than you know a cash cow when you see one.

  • DJ of Clayton Feb 12, 2013

    75% of my salary at retirement? Wow! The retirement must have calculated it wrong. FYI- after I retire with 30 years of service at age 65, my retirement benefit that is going to 'bleed' the taxpayers will be about $24k annually. That includes the NC retirement system that I pay 6% of my salary into, my 401K that I pay into, and will be supplemented by Social Security, if that is left. Oh yeah, I have been paying into SS since I was 14 y/o (I am 50+ now). Yep, the state is going to be really bled dry on my retirement....

  • curiousgeorgia Feb 12, 2013

    You know what is a puzzle to me: working full-time as a state life-form I am getting less per week take home pay than the scale the governor et al want to lower unemployment payouts to. I would imagine there are a fair amount of us on the way low end of the scale.

  • alf6 Feb 12, 2013

    At this point I think we can do less with less! Just hope the public is satisfied with less services, but at least it will be cheaper, right?

  • dollibug Feb 12, 2013

    SO just how much was reduced from the NC Lawmakers and NC Government salaries, perks and benefits????????? Let's start at the top and work our way down....before UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS are reduced***

  • dollibug Feb 12, 2013

    So have the Lawmakers of NC reduced their own salaries, perks and benefits????????? Has NC government also reduce the same? Perhaps is it time.....when everything else is being cut.....let's INSIST that theirs is reduced as well**

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxx Feb 12, 2013

    "Maybe the politicians are planning to round up the poor and give them one way bus tickets to other States!!"

    Oh don't be silly, the politicians aren't going to GIVE bus tickets to the poor - they'll make the poor pay for them!

  • LovemyPirates Feb 12, 2013

    Health care costs in general that have nothing to do with the ACA are bankrupting this country. We are surviving illness, disease and accidents that would have caused death only 10 years ago. The cost of organ transplants, cancer treatment, injury from gun shots, care after brain injury is astronomical.

  • jodsum Feb 12, 2013

    Cut out the non profit groups that are being handed state funds.

  • twoboys Feb 12, 2013

    State Employee 500000 X .75 = $37,500 at which they pay each year toward. They are using interest from our payment toward this as part of the repayment! $37,500 is hardly an amount to make ends meet. Especially since these teachers have made a substantial impact on the community over the years... State employees are grossly underpaid

    This statement is EXACTLY why we (and our country) Is in the shape it's in. Who Cannot make ends meet at $37,500?? MAN; I need to go work for the government!! ;)

  • uBnice Feb 12, 2013

    “And if you don’t, you’ll be giving me some money to spend somewhere else."

    Yes, we have evidence of that. Tillis gave his staff huge raises, it caused a stir, he said that he would retract some of it.

    McCrory gave his staff huge raises, it caused a stir, and he has not discussed it since.

    I would like to hear a statement from either or both that says that the Republicans have created xx number of jobs and brought in yy amount of dollars into NC because of the policies they have implemented.

  • fuzzmom Feb 12, 2013

    pappybigtuna1 - "Maybe someone could tell me "why I have to pay for someone else's retirement", these people are not under paid."

    So, don't buy a new car because part of your purchase pays for retirement of the car mfg employees. Don't ship anything by UPS. Don't pay your doctor bill at a private hospital- same issue. Try again.

  • Raleigh Rocks 1 Feb 12, 2013

    A lot of the inefficiencies are employment position related. I Don't think they are going to say "eliminate my job" to be more efficient.

  • wildpig777 Feb 12, 2013

    it's borderline criminal how the politicans both democrats and repubs have messed over all state employees in this state. -- state employees havnt had a political friend in raleigh in the last 40 yrs.

    the latest debacle -- under democrat bev perdue state employees got a 0 raise and now under the republican dynasty they gave up a 1% -- countem on all one finger -- a 1 % raise. you folks in private industry in nc wouldnt tolerate what state employees have put up with over the last 20 yrs.

  • SMAPAEA Feb 12, 2013

    Employees of the state of NC that are part of TSERS do NOT get 75% of their salary upon retirement. If we are so concerned about efficiencies, maybe they should start with the General Assembly and the Governor's office.

  • Danny22 Feb 12, 2013

    We have to make major cuts because obamacare is going to bankrupt all the states. It's coming along with all its tax increases.

  • Raleigh Rocks 1 Feb 12, 2013

    oldNC, a cut in actual spending or a cut in projected budget increase?

  • lec02572 Feb 12, 2013

    Rarely, it across the board cuts really very smart or effective. There are always places to cut, but sometime you will give up efficiency, customer service, moral (as if anyone on Jones Stree ever cared about that), or cuts are made to areas that should not be cut. You want cuts, then put legilators and their staff under the same retirement system as regular state employees, put them under the same health care system, limit raises to staff at the general assembly to what is given to the rest of the state employees.

  • Danny22 Feb 12, 2013

    There is so much waste. Somebody needs to take an axe to most all the budgets.

  • wildpig777 Feb 12, 2013

    'What I would like to see is a restructure of the state retirement program. It is bleeding the state revenue pot, pappybigtuna1'

    acutally the state retirement plan is --SELF FUNDED-- that is LAW. the state mandatorirly siezes 6% of any dolla earned by a state employee-- gives them a meager 4% interest-- doesnt allow the employment to withdraw the funds of the account.

    so my point is this-- you sir -- DONT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. next...............

  • Lifeliving Feb 12, 2013

    I say cut the pay of the knot heads in Raleigh that are making ours lives heck! Why did they give themselves a pay increase?!?!?!?!?

  • Singlemalt Feb 12, 2013

    Also, regarding State Retirement Fund, it has been years since a meaningful deposit was done by the state.

  • jaydosse Feb 12, 2013

    Republican plan:

    Give pay increases to cabinet positions because they can't afford to live in the Triangle on $100,000 per year.

    Next: eliminate all appointed positions that are not GOP devotees.

    Cut medicaid, wipe out unemployment INSURANCE for those who need it to survive with a 9.2 percent unemployment rate.

    Maybe the politicians are planning to round up the poor and give them one way bus tickets to other States!! This is just the beginning.

    Democratic plan: Pass gas, scratch their heads and beat the bleeding heart liberal drum, knowing full well they don't truly care what happens to our country or great State of NC.

  • westernwake1 Feb 12, 2013

    'What I would like to see is a restructure of the state retirement program. It is bleeding the state revenue pot, pappybigtuna1'

    "Actually, you are very much WRONG. The state pension plan has been very well managed and is completely self funded. It is one of the best funded pension plans in the country. In fact, it was running a surplus until the recession." - OleNCNative

    Exactly! You will have a very hard case if you are proposing that the state returement plan is bleeding the state dry. Keep in mind it is funded with 6% deducted from each employee paycheck.

  • OleNCNative Feb 12, 2013

    What I would like to see is a restructure of the state retirement program. It is bleeding the state revenue pot,
    pappybigtuna1

    Actually, you are very much WRONG. The state pension plan has been very well managed and is completely self funded. It is one of the best funded pension plans in the country. In fact, it was running a surplus until the recession.

  • jaydosse Feb 12, 2013

    Any job cuts so far because of this:

    http://www.wral.com/audit-mismanagement-costs-nc-medicaid-system-millions/12048026/

    What was upper level management being paid for at DHHS???

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