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  • ambassadorgray Feb 15, 2013

    Let's see..reduce money going to families in need after their breadwinner is laid off, stop Medicaid expansion, mess with funding for college "Liberal Arts" programs, mess with the ACA for insurance...guess you needed some cost saving measures to justify the raises that you paid to your cabinet. Class warfare..or shall I say classless warfare..at its finest. Oh, and I actually voted for the man, so feel free to blame me. This is not who I thought I was voting for...

  • lexusjones64 Feb 14, 2013

    this things doesn't affect congress or gov. mcCrory.. they are good.. but what about the rest of us

  • DoingMyBest Feb 13, 2013

    Emergency room for basic care is terribly inefficient and costly ,
    The bill is still huge and needs to be paid. The average ER bill is well over a thousand and every time I go, the overall out of pocket cost is more than that. 10,000 dollar bills are not uncommon. - Plenty"

    And the reason you are using the ER instead of a doctor or urgent care is?

  • mountainlover Feb 13, 2013

    Plenty Coups: I will have to pay more all the way around. I am a state employee in another state who planned to retire to NC. The amount in box DD of my W-2 form is over $10,600; therefore, in 2018, I will be deemed to have a "cadillac health care plan" and my health care benefits will be reduced. There is no chance that my state is going to pay a 40% excise tax on those benefits. Forget about the fact that I have worked for over 30 years for less than my skills would be worth in the private sector just because the state promised me health insurance upon retirement. I also will pay a higher federal tax and state tax for the increased medicaid recipients, unless I opt to move to a state with no state tax and either spend the money that is generating my interest income or put it somewhere else. And most on medicaid have little to move, aren't worried about a job, and are very "in the know" regarding what states will expand medicaid.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 13, 2013

    Plenty Coups: "I believe that many who qualify for medicaid will move to a state that is taking the medicaid expansion. If Kentucky would take care of all of your medical needs free of charge and NC would not, wouldn't you move?"

    Not if I was poor and couldn't afford a move or had no prospects of a job, or simply didn't know that a state offered it. As it is, I will have to pay more because of this short sighted partisan decision and you will likely too. Emergency room care is the most expensive and inefficient system out there!

  • Plenty Coups Feb 13, 2013

    "The Supreme Court did not uphold the part requiring states to expand Medicaid."

    Who said that it did? I was responding to the poster who claims that the states should try to "get rid of Obamacare".

  • mountainlover Feb 13, 2013

    Plenty Coups: I believe that many who qualify for medicaid will move to a state that is taking the medicaid expansion. If Kentucky would take care of all of your medical needs free of charge and NC would not, wouldn't you move?

  • commonsense4 Feb 13, 2013

    "Yoda, the death panels exist now and they are corporate bean counters at for-profit insurance companies.

    My family's costs will go down after full implementation of ACA. Don't depend on Rush and Fox to do all your research for you."

    goldenosprey - Unfortunately they would rather believe outrageous lies and jump on the polarization wagon then give it some serious research and find the facts.

  • mountainlover Feb 13, 2013

    "Umm, its the law of the land. Passed by Congress, signed by the President, and upheld by the supreme court."

    The Supreme Court did not uphold the part requiring states to expand Medicaid.

  • commonsense4 Feb 13, 2013

    "McCroy, Art Pope, I don't care just thank God the Perdue, Easley, Black circus has left town."

    Unfortunately we will all see that Art Pope will be much more devastating to this state than any man or woman that came before.

  • souljp1 Feb 13, 2013

    Bunch of Brainiacs on here as usual who only know blame OBAMA for any and every thing!!
    That's so old 2008-2012.. It's a new day people, stop whining and come up with some real solutions before MCcory and the Repukes really give you something to whine about and you better believe they are trying.

  • souljp1 Feb 13, 2013

    I don't know how educated most of you are but it does not take a Master Degree to understand the problems is the Over CHarging Hospitals and THE so call OVER PAID expert specialists.
    DUH

  • Plenty Coups Feb 13, 2013

    "morrigan-"Hospitals will work out payment plans for you."

    LOL. The bill is still huge and needs to be paid." Plenty

    morrigan-"Do you only pay bills up to a point? What IS your point?"

    Once again, using the Emergency room for basic care is terribly inefficient and costly. That's partly why we have the most expensive health care system in the world, no better outcomes, and people postponing getting needed care as they have a huge financial disincentive in doing so.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 13, 2013

    "This is the State's way of getting rid of Obama Care. Fed's - You created this mess, now you deal with it.
    About time we have a Gov who will push back on the Kings decree"

    Umm, its the law of the land. Passed by Congress, signed by the President, and upheld by the supreme court.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 13, 2013

    " WIthout Medicaide, the hospital and the rest of us get stuck paying the bill."

    Morrigan-"(facepalm) WE GET STUCK PAYING THE BILL WHEN WE PAY FOR MEDICAID."

    What you fail to comprehend is that when people use hospital emergency rooms as primary care physicians, the costs are at least ten times as high. By law, hospitals cannot deny treatment to patients and so consumers end up paying far more in the long run than if we just had a system like Medicaid which the poor could use to get their basic care needs taken care of far cheaper.

  • eberhardly2002 Feb 12, 2013

    so if the problem is that it's broken, why doesn't he propose to fix it? If you break your leg,do you cut it off,or heal it?

  • csmith8116 Feb 12, 2013

    This is the State's way of getting rid of Obama Care. Fed's - You created this mess, now you deal with it.

    About time we have a Gov who will push back on the Kings decree

  • Terkel Feb 12, 2013

    Here's how you lower health care costs: abolish insurance.

  • Terkel Feb 12, 2013

    " WIthout Medicaide, the hospital and the rest of us get stuck paying the bill."

    (facepalm) WE GET STUCK PAYING THE BILL WHEN WE PAY FOR MEDICAID.

  • Terkel Feb 12, 2013

    "morrigan-"Hospitals will work out payment plans for you."

    LOL. The bill is still huge and needs to be paid." Plenty

    Do you only pay bills up to a point? What IS your point?

  • Terkel Feb 12, 2013

    " Hospitals will work out payment plans for you. "

    Also known as collection agencies."

    Not necessarily. The collection agencies call if you don't pay as agreed on the payment plan you worked out with the hospital's business office. Maybe your accounts go straight to Collections?

  • paultaylorsr100 Feb 12, 2013

    "I thought you guys said you were leaving the country if he was re-elected."

    Never heard me say that! I'm here to see him indicted or impeached.

  • ykm Feb 12, 2013

    Folks wanted a federal healthcare system well look like ya gettin one.

  • GravyPig Feb 12, 2013

    "It's a shame the ones that didn't vote for him will have to suffer too."'

    I thought you guys said you were leaving the country if he was re-elected.

  • hardycitrus Feb 12, 2013

    Just one person with a chronic illness and no insurance can wrack up an ER bill over a million dollars in no time. WIthout Medicaide, the hospital and the rest of us get stuck paying the bill.

  • Gabby01 Feb 12, 2013

    Yay! Let's hear it for the hardworking, taxpaying citizens!!!!!
    Stop the entitlement, go out and get a job!

  • mountainlover Feb 12, 2013

    "...stop crying wolf about government employees having cadillac plans. I checked into the "DD" block and it's nowhere near being a "cadillac" plan. Not even close."

    I am NOT crying wolf. I am an employee for another state and plan to retire in NC. The amount in my box DD is WELL over the $10,600 amount. What is in that block may depend on whether you have a PPO, an HMO, or HSA. I have a PPO.

  • Snookyone Feb 12, 2013

    @mountainlover....stop crying wolf about government employees having cadillac plans. I checked into the "DD" block and it's nowhere near being a "cadillac" plan. Not even close.

  • lessismore Feb 12, 2013

    Thank goodness we have a governor that is concerned with working citizens....

  • Unbroken Feb 12, 2013

    "Youll get a job painting houses if you're lucky, all of Barrys newly minted voters, I mean America citizens will get that job before you do
    Crumps Br0ther"

    So what is wrong about someone painting houses? They don't make enough to be part of your white, rick utopian world? I thought Pat wanted more painters and such.

    Ah the republican party. We can now add "anti-blue collar" to their list of undesirables along with women, minorities, gays, elderly, children and the environment. How's that messaging plan going?

  • mountainlover Feb 12, 2013

    All of you who are state or federal employees and support ObamaCare are most likely to be in for a shock. Look at box (either BB or DD on your W-2). If that amount exceeds about $10,600, you will be deemed to have a "cadillac health care plan," beginning in 2018. Should the feds or NC decide that they do not want to pay a 40% excise tax on those benefits (fat chance of that happening!) guess what? The health benefits package that has been part of your compensation package for a good portion of your life will be reduced. See how you like that. YOU will be a major portion of the population who gets to pay for expanded medicaid and health care exchanges.

  • Unbroken Feb 12, 2013

    LOL...you think that but I will take that bet. And I have no problem paying for police, armed forces etc. I do however have a problem paying for the lazy or those who choose to buy things that are not necessary and then whine about how they can not buy food, shelter, healthcare etc.
    ncouterbanks69

    So who are these people and how many? What you are saying is pretty common sense... no one wants to pay for someone who doesn't want to take care of themselves. Yeah, it's easy to rail against those people.

    What about those that are truly in need? Sick? Mentally ill? Elderly? Do we throw the baby out with the bathwater? Will the vulnerable simply be collateral damage because a few do milk the system?

  • piller Feb 12, 2013

    Huge, huge mistake. We gain nothing by this. The federal government will still spend the money, only now North Carolina will not get it. Bottom line is that we will still pay the money out in federal taxes to benefit other states' medicaid expansions but not ours.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 12, 2013

    morrigan-"Hospitals will work out payment plans for you."

    LOL. The bill is still huge and needs to be paid. The average ER bill is well over a thousand and every time I go, the overall out of pocket cost is more than that. 10,000 dollar bills are not uncommon.

    http://drjimtaylor.com/2.0/health/health-our-5-hour-10000-visit-to-the-er/

  • Nancy Feb 12, 2013

    ""Those of you that voted for McCrory, how happy are you now that he is cutting left and right?"

    I'm all for some fiscal responsibility for a change. Long overdue. Sure beats running up a tab and raising taxes like Bev and Easley did.

  • Heights Feb 12, 2013

    Similar experience. Even with insurance, $1,000 out-of-pocket after ER visit for a few sticths to the hand (no x-rays). Hello monthly payment plan. So why so expensive? Greedy doctors, hospital and insurance companies? Uninsured patients? How does the the ACA address this or is its primary focus making affordable insurance available? How do we get health costs down?

  • BigSteamnTurd Feb 12, 2013

    "Those of you that voted for McCrory, how happy are you now that he is cutting left and right?"

    Beyond thrilled!! It's time NC citizens pay their fines, and serve their time, for electing Easley, Perdue and all the other liberals that created the messes.

  • bngexpress Feb 12, 2013

    i'm hoping that the gov finds more ways to cut the budget , govt needs to be operated as efficiently as possible , as most taxpaying citizens have to operate their household budget . while working in the private sector if i needed more money i worked more or searched for another job , i didn't just go to my employer and force him to give me more money , being thrifty and working hard has paid dividends , but the key is hard work and buying what you need not what you want. govt can be ran in the same manner , but we have to establish what we truly need , vs what a select few want.

  • handbasket Feb 12, 2013

    yay! I support our democratically elected General Assembly!

  • HeadsUp Feb 12, 2013

    If you think North Carolina's Medicaid program is struggling now, wait until DHHS launches a new statewide Medicaid billing system this summer -- the same one that got hammered last year in a state audit for doubling in cost and falling two years behind schedule, and counting.

    Whoever thinks it will work well, raise your hand... Anyone?

  • rocket Feb 12, 2013

    "
    In a competitive market, financial institutions with poor lending practices wouldn't get bailouts - but they did. Airlines with loose safety regulations wouldn't survive - and planes wouldn't crash - yet, they do. Predatory swindlers like Enron wouldn't thrive - but they did."

    The banks should have been allowed to fail and the government should have never told them who they had to loan money to.

    Airlines with poor safety records would fail in a free market. They might survive one crash but not multiple accidents.

    Enron thrived until they were caught. They broke the law and they lost.

  • rocket Feb 12, 2013

    "Just how many markets, do you think, are truly competitive?"

    Not very many thanks to our overbearing federal government.

  • ncouterbanks69 Feb 12, 2013

    since you ask, yes. I likely pay a lot more taxes than you so should I complain about having to pay for the armed forces, police etc to protect you?

    LOL...you think that but I will take that bet. And I have no problem paying for police, armed forces etc. I do however have a problem paying for the lazy or those who choose to buy things that are not necessary and then whine about how they can not buy food, shelter, healthcare etc.

  • Paul M Feb 12, 2013

    He has lied to us almost if not more than Obama

  • rocket Feb 12, 2013

    "since you ask, yes. I likely pay a lot more taxes than you so should I complain about having to pay for the armed forces, police etc to protect you? For the roads you drive on....if not then why should I get to complain about paying for your healthcare?????"

    Assuming you really do pay more, and that's a big assumption... you make a good argument that the entire tax system is set up unfairly. The wealthy are asked to shoulder a higher percentage of the tax burden while some only reap the benefits and contribute nothing. Just because it's the way things are done does not make it fair. The bigger the government gets the more unfair the whole thing becomes.

  • 68_dodge_polara Feb 12, 2013

    "Those of you that voted for McCrory, how happy are you now that he is cutting left and right?"

    Feels great knowing we will be leaving our children with less debt. Wonder how those in California fell about what they are leaving their children?

  • Sumo Vita Feb 12, 2013

    "I trust that in a competitive market, those companies that employ untrustworthy accountants will not survive for very long."

    I'm glad you included that caveat.

    In a competitive market, financial institutions with poor lending practices wouldn't get bailouts - but they did. Airlines with loose safety regulations wouldn't survive - and planes wouldn't crash - yet, they do. Predatory swindlers like Enron wouldn't thrive - but they did.

    Just how many markets, do you think, are truly competitive?

  • jhk0704 Feb 12, 2013

    History major? Aren't you glad you got your lib arts degree before McCory deemed them obsolete. So surely you learned before there was a social safety net dire poverty was rampant???
    goldenosprey



    Actually i was SMART enough to also get a business degree because i realized that History degree although awesome ISNT GOING TO TRANSLATE TO A JOB. Liberal Arts degrees dont have a whole lot of Practical Applications in the real world so i have no problewm with those being downsized heavily and moved more towards Private Colleges

    So surely you can see how i was responsible enough to plan for my furture not expect the goverment to provide me one

  • Deep Thought Feb 12, 2013

    I just hope we live through the regime of McCrory and his fellow republicans. They are all drunk with power and will hurt the middle class any way they can.

    It does help that the regular Republicans and the Tea Party are fighting each other which can only be good for the citizens.

  • issymayake Feb 12, 2013

    Yeah all of you know that North Carolina is still going to get an insurance exchange right? There's an opt-out clause in the PPACA which hands the job over to the federal government if the state opts out.

    This isn't some kind of scenario where McCrory and the Republicans are going to be standing in front of the Capitol with their heels dug in looking to fight big bad Obama.
    randybutternubsjr

    Thanks for some clarity.. I wasn't sure how that was supposed to work. Oh well I have my own health insurance and FSA. Let the rest of em eat cake.

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