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twatts1000 Feb 12, 10:23 a.m.
"it puts the state budget at risk eight years from now when the federal money runs out." = The GOP has no long-term budget solution and doesn't expect to be in power in 8 years.
oleguy Feb 12, 6:42 a.m.
I was without Ins, for over 5 years,,When I went to the doc I paid cash,, Average visit cost me 94.00 bucks,, Now I am 66, the first and last visit over a year ago cost me over 260.00 out of pocket,, The govt also paid some, and I pay up front over 119.00 per mo. Insurance,,, I have since gone back to cash,, Medicare is a ripp off of our seniors,,,
andrewthomasregan Feb 11, 8:21 p.m.
Funny, I would think better about the Democratic Party if they truly cared about the working poor and the middle class if they would only acted like they cared about us. Instead, they seem focused on the professional poor and illegal immigrants and then throwing even more of our money overseas. Deport illegals and save lots of money and have more to spend on our own people.
andrewthomasregan Feb 11, 8:18 p.m.
It is disgusting the way the left always brings up Christian"faith" but would never think of involving the faith of other religions because a politician didn't agree with them on policy.
Dr. Charles van der Horst is a bigot for attacking conservatives on their faith. Imagine if you were to bring that up for someone who is Jewish or Muslim.
ncfarmhand2 Feb 11, 7:41 p.m.
I would be much more likely to believe that GOP leaders cared about the poor if only they would act like they care about the poor. What I see is them cutting benefits and educational opportunities for the poor and creating cuts for corporations and for the wealthy. If you are middle class and you really believe these men and women have your best interest in mind, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell.
heelsgirl05 Feb 11, 6:49 p.m.
So....only a third of the uninsured people in this state will get medicaid under the new expansion when we were promised that ALL would be covered under the new affordable care act. Meanwhile my insurance has gone up by 50%. What am I paying for???
elvmat23 Feb 11, 6:41 p.m.
The Medicaid expansion should be done,it makes sense to have a healthier citizenry! I can not believe that the State of NC wants to be this backward! These doctors are correct,but maybe they should have told of the actual people DYING because of delayed care. A testimonal from a parent or spouse who lost someone due to the lack of health care may have shook up these legislators to see the light...
heelzfan4 Feb 11, 6:35 p.m.
I'd just like to share one more thing.... please read the excerpt from the Federal Judge's final ruling on the WakeMed Medicare billing/mismangement issue. He pointed out (in other parts of the article) that removing WakeMed's ability to bill Medicare (not medicaid) would basically cause wakeMed to close its doors - hurting so many needing healthcare in the community. Wakemed will be under close billing supervision for 5 years. So, why is this approach not feasible for the Medicaid expansion I ask you? ""The court has considered the threat that the provision of essential healthcare to WakeMed's patients would be interrupted and that the needs of the underprivileged in the surrounding area would be drastically and inhumanely curtailed should defendant be forced to close its doors as a result of the instant prosecution," Boyle wrote in his ruling."""
heelzfan4 Feb 11, 6:20 p.m.
Morrigan - i don't believe i said anything about "sick children" as you so clearly pointed out. I suggest you re-read my post. I just want some compromise - and not see the poor and needy get shafted for the mismanagement. that's all I want.
Terkel Feb 11, 6:09 p.m.
Here are some excerpts from Form DSS-8227, Economic and Family Services Section:
"Anyone who wants to receive Medicaid, Health Choice...must tell us about their citizenship and immigration status." How folksy.
"Anyone who wants to receive Medicaid, HC...must also give us their SSN...SSNs will NOT (emphasis theirs) be used to report anyone to the US Citizenship and Immigration Services." Come on it, it's OK, we won't snitch!
"Anyone applying for only emergency Medicaid does not have to provide his SSN or information on his citizenship or immigration status." Still think illegals don't get Medicaid?
Terkel Feb 11, 6:03 p.m.
I want proof that 25,000 jobs will be brought to NC. Not 24,999; not jobs "with American companies" who manufacture overseas and keep call centers there; not part-time, $8/ home health attendant jobs. Then I want to see all the calculations and ROI.
Won't hold my breath.
Terkel Feb 11, 5:53 p.m.
heelzfan, then WHEN do we address the mismanagement? Don't hold up sick children as human shields for some of the evil people at Medicaid.
Terkel Feb 11, 5:50 p.m.
"If lawmakers approve the expansion, it would bring a projected $15 billion into the state’s economy,.."
AFTER TAKING THE SAME $15 B OUT OF OUR POCKETS!!!
heelzfan4 Feb 11, 5:40 p.m.
I'll agree totally that the Medicaid system in NC needs an overhaul. But honestly, its had significant problems back to the late 80s and early 90s - I know this because I have been in healthcare finance since then. You don't, however, pull the rug out from under helping more folks that need it, and totally refuse the expansion because of mismanagement issues. Let's see... what's more important - helping the uninsured and underinsured, or dealing with a mismanagement issue. Those who don't want this.... I hope you NEVER have a family member who has to sell everything they own - relying on Medicaid - when guess what??? - it WON"T be there! Come on folks - work out a compromise. Also - can't blame this on Obama, so don't try. These issues go back many years before Obama and Perdue were in office! Let's work together and help those in need! We might be one of them one day.
floydthebarber Feb 11, 5:33 p.m.
Being honest with money and caring about poor people's health are two different topics entirely. Mr Fulghum is wrong in asserting that since the GOP cares about one they must care about both. If it weren't for the federal government stepping in to create an exchange for NC this truly would be an affront to the poor- now it is just a poor monetary decision by the NC GOP.
Spock Feb 11, 5:00 p.m.
Hmmmm... doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results -- must be the Democratic ticket.
mep Feb 11, 4:49 p.m.
Expand our current broken and corrupt system.... these "docs" are on the paycheck side of this equation. And if Uncle Sam chooses to stop investing in the expanded system... it will be NC taxpayers holding the massive bills. NO THANKS!
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03