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  • ABM Feb 12, 12:37 p.m.

    Part 2

    no offense to anyone, back then you would have never seen a white person downtown after 5pm, but now I have to look twice, and check the clock when I drive around downtown.. Things have changed for the better, but Mayor Bell, I challenge you to do the right thing, GET TOUGH ON THE PROBLEM, and please understand that time is a factor. CLEAN IT UP....

  • epee131 Feb 12, 12:35 p.m.

    I grieve that a young man has lost his life. I grieve that 3 young men have changed their lives with this violent action. I agree that the most stringent and severe punishment is deserved. I believe that we must build the plane while we fly it. We can't just punish it away. We must address the underlying issues such as poverty and education. This does not mean that we do nothing to punish or even go lightly. Severe punishment is warranted. Without attempting to determine and address root cause, you create an unsustainable system.

  • ABM Feb 12, 12:11 p.m.

    Didn't the Mayor (Bell) want a significant increase in the bail for criminals that used guns, but it was called a bad idea. That is because all the offenders would NOT be able to bail out, and have to stay in jail.. Definition, all the money would stop flowing..

    Increase the bail amount, build an additional jail if you must, somewhere far from the city limits where there is no public transportation access, and the ones locked up don't feel like there in a "home away from home".. I understand the reason for placing the jail downtown, but when I drive by and see all the people just hanging out there, I can see where it becomes this place where you are not afraid to go.

    Face it Durham, the criminals are comfortable in your jail, why else are they there so often.

    As a Durham native, this is not going to get any better, unless you make a drastic change. Mayor Bell, I like what you have done to Durham, it is a far better place now then when I grew up in East Durham (80's and 90's)

  • amenmike Feb 11, 7:49 p.m.

    I pay you pay...didn't happen at Southpoint Mall. Happened across the street.

  • jmrado47 Feb 11, 5:38 p.m.

    Georgia passed the two strikes law because the violent criminals were being released to the streets. If you feel that something needs to be done about the revolving door justice, contact Governor McCrory to put an end to the violent criminals preying on the citizens of this state.

  • issymayake Feb 11, 4:23 p.m.

    Well... mister police chief you need to have a talk with the Durham County judges as to why they won't keep violent repeat felons, and yes even murders, in prison. 68_dodge_polara

    Because they need the bunk space for non-violent drug offenders who caught a mandatory sentence. We have to keep the pot heads off the streets, so to make room the jails release these savages back into the community.
    Crumps Br0ther

    Wow. . I think this is the first time I've agreed with you on anything. #warondrugsisascam

  • jackflash123 Feb 11, 3:13 p.m.

    I've met Kadeem Johnson. This is not surprising.

    When someone brings race up in these discussions, I bristle and prepare myself to respond to insensitive, ignorant comments. I'm pleasantly surprised to find that some commenting on that aspect have stayed away from some of the hateful rhetoric that too often derails such conversations before they start.

  • InTheNo Feb 11, 3:12 p.m.

    "This city, these citizens are not going to tolerate the gun violence on our citizens in Durham. We're just not going to tolerate it," said Durham police Captain Patrice Andrews.

    This does NOT mean that criminals will be prosecuted and kept in prison. It means - here's another reason to keep law abiding citizens from having whatever means necessary to protect themselves.

  • 68_dodge_polara Feb 11, 2:49 p.m.

    Ummmm.... ever served jury duty in Durham county? I have, and more than once, I know exactly what I'm talking about. The problem is that the courts will not keep repeat violent offenders in prison and the police chief and the mayor as usual never address this.

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 11, 2:30 p.m.

    ..Blame the suspects not the area where it happened.
    johnny2times
    February 11, 2013 1:41

    This isn't the first "random act of violence" at that mall.

  • Just Once Feb 11, 2:29 p.m.

    johnny2times - Who better to talk to the judges than the police chief? Just because it doesn't follow the ideal chain does not mean the the statement should not be made.

    I absolutely think that the Department should make a statement when previously convicted felons get out and do bad things.

    Sitting on your hands never got anything done.

  • johnny2times Feb 11, 1:45 p.m.

    Well... mister police chief you need to have a talk with the Durham County judges as to why they won't keep violent repeat felons, and yes even murders, in prison. 68_dodge_polara

    Ummmm.....it is not up to the chief to talk to the judges about punishments...the LAWYERS fight for the punishments on both sides(prosecutor and defense)...the police chief doesn't argue that point....yet another person who has no idea what really goes on with the judicial system. If you want someone to blame, go to the court house and complain to the chief justice and lawyers....the defense lawyers try to reduce the sentences for these cowards...The police charge the suspects and the lawyers and judge and sometimes jury decide punishment.

  • johnny2times Feb 11, 1:41 p.m.

    And this is why I don't allow my kids to go to Southpoint.

    IPayYouPay
    February 11, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    This occurred in a vehicle in a parking lot...not at the mall...not in a crowd of people and it was NOT a random act which means he was the target all along. The suspects and the victim knew each other and im sure it was over drugs and or money or a woman..Blame the suspects not the area where it happened.

  • IPayYouPay Feb 11, 1:00 p.m.

    And this is why I don't allow my kids to go to Southpoint.

  • Slappy171 Feb 11, 11:23 a.m.

    Ericphillips19033:

    Perfect summation!

  • ericphillips19033 Feb 11, 11:03 a.m.

    When you have black leaders such as Eric "my people" Holder, Shapton, Jackson reminding these kids and every other black how oppressed they are, what good can come of it? Most of these kids also have something missing that they constantly under achieve in school and socially. I hold black leaders responsible for not taking responsibility for the actions of their own.

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 11, 10:34 a.m.

    More young black men killing. Will any one every stand up and allow this subject to be talked about. When will Jesse, Al or the good rev Barber get on TV and talk about this blight on the black neighborhood. The problem is not going away this country needs to talk about this issue. But since most successful blacks that make it out of the crime ridden neighborhoods never go back no one cares about it.
    lumberman

    Bill Cosby spoke up, and "The Community" basically called him an Uncle Tom

  • lumberman Feb 11, 10:27 a.m.

    More young black men killing. Will any one every stand up and allow this subject to be talked about. When will Jesse, Al or the good rev Barber get on TV and talk about this blight on the black neighborhood. The problem is not going away this country needs to talk about this issue. But since most successful blacks that make it out of the crime ridden neighborhoods never go back no one cares about it.

  • pelosi-rulz Feb 11, 10:21 a.m.

    How come the community leaders and naacp never come out when there is a crime like this and demand better for their people and community?

    Now a young black man gets kicked out of a bar and they show up in mass for protest and marches...

    And then wonder why they get called race hustlers and racist by law makers.

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 11, 10:14 a.m.

    Well... mister police chief you need to have a talk with the Durham County judges as to why they won't keep violent repeat felons, and yes even murders, in prison.
    68_dodge_polara

    Because they need the bunk space for non-violent drug offenders who caught a mandatory sentence. We have to keep the pot heads off the streets, so to make room the jails release these savages back into the community.

  • pelosi-rulz Feb 11, 10:09 a.m.

    Wow, how many gun laws did these guys break.

    Maybe if obama would pass more gun laws they might listen then huh? Yeah right

  • SFSOLDIER Feb 11, 9:56 a.m.

    Al Sharpton..step up, brother! Your peeps are killing folks everyday out here! Stop the crime! Keep these guys in jail, stop releasing them.

  • Uhavenoclu Feb 11, 9:54 a.m.

    Stating FAC6T is not offensive.The NAACP only comments when they want someone out of jail or complains on an arrest because of someones color..I asked why don't they comment on the arrest and what a sorry state the ones they defend are committing most of the crimes?
    That is NOT offensive that is FACT.......But the mods don't like that they are BIASED.FREE COUNTRY YEAH RIGHT WE ARE THE BIGGEST COMMUNIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

  • talkaboutit Feb 11, 9:46 a.m.

    Finally, you allow someone to post on the real issue. if I or Aetius476 didnt care, we just would not say anything, and let this self-destruction continue. The point is while the things the folks were marching about this weekend in Raleigh are real concerns for them, this issue is a bigger part of the black eperience right now then the perceived injustices they are marching about. it is a shame there were not as many people marching, begging and pleading these young black men to stop the cycle of violence that is plaguing their community.this news outlet and others has a responsiblity to focus on this issue to demand change.

  • 68_dodge_polara Feb 11, 9:31 a.m.

    I know a few Durham city and county sheriff officers, they all have the common complaint that they arrest they same people for doing they same things over and over again because the Durham County court system just won't keep the repeat offenders in prison where they belong.

  • 68_dodge_polara Feb 11, 9:27 a.m.

    "This city, these citizens are not going to tolerate the gun violence on our citizens in Durham"

    Well... mister police chief you need to have a talk with the Durham County judges as to why they won't keep violent repeat felons, and yes even murders, in prison.

  • ncmickey Feb 11, 9:20 a.m.

    Good Job Durham PD...wish the court system didn't spit right in law enforcements face....

  • aetius476 Feb 11, 9:20 a.m.

    Does it not seem monotonously like the same people are on the rampage? As soon as one of these headlines comes up, you can guess with virtual certainty who the suspects are before reading the names and seeing the pics.

    But it is "racist" or "bigoted" to even discuss this plague of volence in the black community. Why is that? Why are we not willing to discuss or confront the problem? Where is Barber and the other apologists for black crime.

    Not that this post will even make it through the PC censors, but it has to be said.

    Are we beyond even recognizing and admitting the truth?

  • ccsloop Feb 11, 9:18 a.m.

    I hit send too fast. The scary part is what can we do about it? Has to be instilled at a young age by caring, love, values, the parents and fmily.

  • WRAL get it right Feb 11, 8:46 a.m.

    Why focus on the gun violence and not mention that the citizens of Durham don't want murderers on their streets. Do these guys have any prior arrest? Lock them up and throw away the key!

  • canucmypointofview Feb 11, 8:14 a.m.

    You're right Capt. Andrews, we're not going to tolerate our courts turning these predators loose after a small stint in jail anymore...bet these guys are out before Christmas.

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