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  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 7:01 p.m.

    soyousay - (1) Her ID wouldn't have listed a UPS store address, so if that's what she used to register, it would have flagged her to only vote provisionally.

    (2) To start, do a search on "Tesla Technology" and "Weather Wars". Governments have technology decades ahead of what's made public.

    (3) Proper use of condoms, birth control and other methods can are very successful in pregnancy prevention. But that's not the issue.

    The issue is a system that rewards people to have children they know they can't afford, thus leading to kids who become at-risk.

    The issue is that for decades now having kids is used as a way to qualify for Government benefits that require nothing in return.

    These bad parents whose kids are at-risk are not trying to not get pregnant, they want to get pregnant because then they don't have to get up everyday and go to work. Housing is provided, food is provided, medical care, welfare dollars ect.

    The system currently in place is providing an incentive to have kids.

  • soyousay Feb 8, 6:08 p.m.

    It brings up that whole voter ID thing doesn't it..you do realize that it would not have stopped her in particular from voting, a detemined criminal (she is one you know if true) can easiely evade it. Concentrate hard and it will come to you

  • soyousay Feb 8, 6:03 p.m.

    You only get paid to HAVE kids. No condom required.

    ..

    missed that whole sex ed class? wait might not have ever had it. Condoms are dismal in preventing pregancy and generally that whole oral contraceptive thing may be tough for you..

    however, she voted illegally X3, and thinks that magic sonic waves cause earthquakes ...

  • soyousay Feb 8, 6:00 p.m.

    This is about the ineptness of a new administration in picking its appointees.

    ...and voting illegally..she is in a heap of trouble now, but then she is the shining beacon of the Tea sippers

    by why quibble

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Feb 8, 3:49 p.m.

    Why are all the comments here about the merits of pre-K? This is about the ineptness of a new administration in picking its appointees.

  • Obamayoulie Feb 8, 3:21 p.m.

    Pre-K = free taxpayer paid babysitting....

  • free2bme Feb 8, 2:52 p.m.

    Morrigan

    Linda will never be as nuts as this lady. Wake up, this lady is full of hate, name calling, and deception. She has no place in government representing me or anyone else. This is typical tea party talk though which unfortunately is what this Republican NC Legislature agrees with. They promised to help the state of NC by creating jobs and working across the aisles- just a bunch of lies to get in office. They want Big Government so they can control what citizens can and can not do. For some reason, they don't realize that it is the 21st century.

  • jackflash123 Feb 8, 2:50 p.m.

    "How about we cut off the funds that pay people for years on end just because they had a kid, or at least make them work for it?"

    Educating their children through Pre-K programs is a better way of breaking the cycle of poverty and it doesn't put a single penny in their pockets. Free daycare? The kid is already here. You don't hurt the kid to spite the parent. And that's pretty much all you're advocating: spite. There isn't the slightest sign of understanding or compassion in anything you've written. You've exhibited nothing but malice and half-baked judgments.

  • jackflash123 Feb 8, 2:47 p.m.

    "Still having trouble with the term 'personal responsibility' I see."

    Not at all. I consider it my personal responsibility not to allow people to slip through the cracks just b/c they've been irresponsible. It's what Jesus would want us to do. I have yet to see you offer anything other than ripping away public support. I bet you think the best way to teach a child to swim is to throw him overboard in the middle of a lake.

    "Here's a solution. WORK."

    Oh, yeah. I forgot that if you type something in all-caps it means it's that simple.

    Your complaints about people procreating (pro-choice, are you?) is a step away from suggesting they be prohibited by law from doing so. That's a step closer to exactly what Nazi Germany did. How about you backtrack from that insinuation fast instead of make it seem even more true by complaining about strawmen?

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 12:56 p.m.

    "Condoms are available in every drugstore."

    Not only that.. they give them away FREE at the health department.

    But where's the lifetime of free benefits in not getting pregnant?

    The system doesn't send me a check because I didn't have a kid I can't afford and don't care enough about to teach them anything.

    You only get paid to HAVE kids. No condom required.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 12:38 p.m.

    jackflash "So... stick them in box cars and ship them off to a camp where they can be sterilized? Is that your solution?"

    Why don't you just copy and paste the definition of a strawman argument and save us all some time?

    Here's a solution. WORK. Work for benefits. I'll be more than happy to take the job of creating a system that will support kids and improve the overall lives of all involved.

    It starts with not being able to sit at home doing nothing while collecting Government checks just because you had a baby.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 12:34 p.m.

    jackflash "Oh, they "choose" to, huh? Tell me, what has the GOP done"

    Still having trouble with the term "personal responsibility" I see. Pass the buck. Not my fault. I just had NO way of knowing that the government would give me benefits for years just because I had a baby.

    Tell me how giving away years of taxpayer funded entitlements for having kids will teach people who shouldn't be having kids to not have them.

    Why do you think certain people are so inept that they can't figure out how not to get pregnant without the Government leading them by the hand?

    Why can't YOU figure out that some people get pregnant ON PURPOSE in order to have a passport to years of free stuff?

    You can educate some people all day about avoiding pregnancy and they'll still get pregnant because they KNOW the system in place is structured so that babies = $$$ for parents.

    How about we cut off the funds that pay people for years on end just because they had a kid, or at least make them work for it?

  • Terkel Feb 8, 12:32 p.m.

    "Because they choose to keep doing the things that keep them "in need". Like having babies in the middle of the worst depression of their lifetimes."

    Oh, they "choose" to, huh?"

    Yes.

    "It's all the GOP's fault/access/awareness/education/ blame blame blame"

    Condoms are available in every drugstore.

  • corey3rd2 Feb 8, 12:09 p.m.

    Forget what she tweeted - take a look at her voter registration form. She wrote down her address as a Winston Salem UPS store. That is a crime in the state of NC to lie on a government form. She illegally registered to vote in NC. Where is the Conservative who go nuts about ACORN? This woman needs to be charges and go on trial for her crime of casting a ballot while listing a fake address.

  • jackflash123 Feb 8, 12:09 p.m.

    "If you advocate for assistance for at-risk kids, you should also advocate for changing the system that encourages the pregnancies that result in at-risk kids."

    So... stick them in box cars and ship them off to a camp where they can be sterilized? Is that your solution?

  • jackflash123 Feb 8, 12:07 p.m.

    " 'Why is it that when we decide to cut spending, it's always those who are most in need who have to sacrifice first?'

    Because they choose to keep doing the things that keep them "in need". Like having babies in the middle of the worst depression of their lifetimes."

    Oh, they "choose" to, huh? Tell me, what has the GOP done to improve health care, sex ed, and access to birth control? Last I checked, they tried their best to block it, restrict it to abstinence only, and allow employers to meddle in it based on the employers' morals.

    Tell me how cutting off funds to help 3 and 4 year olds teaches those kids the error of their ways.

  • Terkel Feb 8, 11:53 a.m.

    ""Cudos to the lady for walking away. Your typical Democrat appointee would have had cover from the press for starters."

    What recent Democratic appointee came anything close to being this nuts?" gu

    Psst. Linda what's her name, Bev's PC appointee in charge of ESC who gave away half a billion and didn't recoup a penny because "it would be too hard on recips." IIRC you're furious that UE benes are likely to be cut. She's a large part of the reason, and she was allowed to remain in power for long, long after that.

  • Terkel Feb 8, 11:38 a.m.

    "This fiasco proves that DHHS Secretary Wos is totally out her element here. The governor should have assigned her to a position organizing republican galas and establishing dress codes for state workers, and appointed an actual competent and sane person to be be head of health and human services." Kaitlyn

    Wow, sexist AND a freeloader!

  • Terkel Feb 8, 11:34 a.m.

    "This whole situation was EXTREMELY concerning. The fact that someone like this could even get to a point to be considered for that position without being throughly vetted is beyond belief...

    I am truly stunned and speechless."

    How do/did you feel when Tax Cheat Geithner was chosen to head the IRS?

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 11:15 a.m.

    GrandUnion: "What recent Democratic appointee came anything close to being this nuts?"

    Every one that advocates a system that encourages people who make poor parents to have children by paying them benefits that require nothing in return.

    These at-risk kids are at-risk because they have parents who don't care enough to put effort into raising them, and see the kids as simply a passport to government benefits.

    As long as people are allowed to sit at home and do nothing while collecting "entitlements", kids qualifying for at-risk status will continue to be born.

    There are plenty of things that need to be done that people who get benefits could do in return for their subsidizes. When people stop seeing kids as a way to support themselves while sitting at home doing nothing, the population of at-risk kids will drop dramatically.

    If you advocate for assistance for at-risk kids, you should also advocate for changing the system that encourages the pregnancies that result in at-risk kids.

  • Grand Union Feb 8, 10:36 a.m.

    "However, I do not think the program should even exist. They should defund the whole thing and allocate the money to k-12."

    why? why stop doing something that seems to work?

  • readme Feb 8, 10:11 a.m.

    I suppose the person running pre-K should believe in its mission. However, I do not think the program should even exist. They should defund the whole thing and allocate the money to k-12.

  • Grand Union Feb 8, 9:34 a.m.

    "Cudos to the lady for walking away. Your typical Democrat appointee would have had cover from the press for starters."

    What recent Democratic appointee came anything close to being this nuts?

  • itsmyownopinion Feb 8, 9:34 a.m.

    Epic fail to appoint her. She was not properly vetted. Did no one even do an internet search onf her name?

  • pstroud2 Feb 8, 9:29 a.m.

    Why is it, that so many government hating republicans want so badly to work for the government.

    Things that make you go ... hmmmm.

  • prodigalrn Feb 8, 9:16 a.m.

    Look at Charlie Rangel and most recently Robert Menendez, accused of using underage Columbian prostitutes. What does Harry Reid do? He comes out in support of the creep! Ahh Democrats!

    yankee1

    February 8, 2013 8:44 a.m

    So then, how about the Republican 'wide-stance' Congressman that was caught trying for an airport restroom hook-up? Remember him? What did he do? He held on to his office and screamed it was just a witch hunt. Even his own party wanted him to resign. Point I'm making is, it isn't a Democrat or Republican problem, that's just bad behavior from human beings. It's not political, but people want to use it that way. And the word you used above in one instance was "accused". Innocent till due-process is done, ok? (Though I agree, he's probably guilty, but everyione deserves to let the legal system work)

  • Mom120 Feb 8, 8:56 a.m.

    a real whack job

  • Save It Feb 8, 8:44 a.m.

    "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work. When they take office they intend to prove it". - P. J. O'Rourke

  • yankee1 Feb 8, 8:44 a.m.

    Cudos to the lady for walking away. Your typical Democrat appointee would have had cover from the press for starters. Those questioning her appointment would have been accused of bias, pushing a war on women and probably some form of racism. She would have kept her position, as do most corrupt Democrats, and stayed on the job, collecting her taxpayer funded check, until public pressure pushed her into leaving her post to "spend more time with her family"! Check the past history of NC Democrats if you don't believe it! it's no different at the Fed level. Look at Charlie Rangel and most recently Robert Menendez, accused of using underage Columbian prostitutes. What does Harry Reid do? He comes out in support of the creep! Ahh Democrats!

  • soyousay Feb 8, 8:09 a.m.

    Are they evil, or just that stupid?

    ..

    ask the republican governors of Loiusiana, New Jersey and the Republican delegation of the states affected by Sandy.

  • hppyhourhero Feb 8, 8:07 a.m.

    Conservative: "I wish you had also alerted the media about vetting before November 2008!!"......You bet-cha....

  • ambreaux Feb 7, 10:10 p.m.

    There is an ongoing cohort study started in 2001 when children were born and then followed through to starting Kindergarten. The latest results have been posted (2009) and more should be published in 2013. The study has different types of households, races, income, one parent/two parent, etc.

    http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp?pubid=2010005

    I'm copy/pasting some of the more interesting findings (at least relevant to this discussion thread):

    "Also, children who participated in regular early care and education arrangements the year prior to kindergarten scored higher on the reading and mathematics assessments than children who had no regular experience in early care and education the year prior to entering kindergarten."

    "Lastly, children who participated in regular early care and education arrangements the year prior to kindergarten scored higher on the fine motor skill assessments than children who had no regular early care and education"

    Ton more reports on the site....

  • junk999 Feb 7, 10:04 p.m.

    Just the beginning folks. The GOP hates government. Why would anyone imagine they would be good at governing? So, the new head of pre-K doesn't believe in pre-K. McCrory "hit the ground running" and promptly fell on his face. Are they evil, or just that stupid?

  • Conservative Feb 7, 9:36 p.m.

    Governor...READ THIS...

    "The vetting process seeks to inform the public or other decision-makers of a candidate's past. In practice, it often serves to narrow the field of candidates by preventing those with embarrassing pasts from ascending to higher office."

    Wags

    @Wags - I wish you had also alerted the media about vetting before November 2008!!

  • DeM Feb 7, 8:50 p.m.

    This woman sounds like an intolerant bully, who calls pejorative names when her point is weak. Not exactly a good role model for children in their formative years. I'm glad she resigned, and agree that she did the right thing under some pretty uncomfortable scrutiny. People are both good and bad, otherwise it would be far easier to sort them.

  • bill15 Feb 7, 8:37 p.m.

    Art Pope should replace her with Deborah Goldman.

  • Kaitlyn Feb 7, 8:21 p.m.

    This fiasco proves that DHHS Secretary Wos is totally out her element here. The governor should have assigned her to a position organizing republican galas and establishing dress codes for state workers, and appointed an actual competent and sane person to be be head of health and human services.

  • FlagWavingFascistCrank Feb 7, 8:15 p.m.

    This is so hilarious, the Drive-Through is still open.....

  • Cock a doodle doo Feb 7, 7:58 p.m.

    I have to applaud the people on this comment line who support this woman. Good for you for standing up with your mainstream Republican Party. This is a fine example of what the GOP has become. This is why the GOP calls people like Lindsey Graham a scallywag for saying the party is going to die, and future leaders like Jindal who recently begged at the Republican Party convention to quit being stupid.

  • Kaitlyn Feb 7, 7:57 p.m.

    So now the damage control team is hard at work trying to figure out which is the lesser of two terribly embarrassing scenarios..claiming you were too incompetent to have known this woman who you hired to be head of the state pre-K program was previously in charge of running and funding an organization devoted to abolishing pre-K, or admitting you knowingly hired her in the hope that she would destroy the state pre-K program.

  • Cock a doodle doo Feb 7, 7:50 p.m.

    All I know is if this woman was supposed to be a leader of our State and lead with fine Christian values that the current leadership claims drive them, it's time for me to renounce my religion. This woman is VERY scary.

  • jackflash123 Feb 7, 7:45 p.m.

    "You prefer YOUR OWN truth of 'the only reason people are poor is because they're being held down by the rich Republicans.' "

    Yeah, that's not even close to anything I've ever said. But I did point out that you like to make things up so you can judge, and you just proved me right.

    "I've taken people off the street into my home and given them a chance to clean up and get a job."

    What an amazing coincidence! Me, too! In fact, I helped 73 people in the last hour, and that's a slow day. I'm 6'8", 250#, run a 4.1 40, too.

    "And people like you make it easy for them not to because you want to give them free everything"

    Mom? Is that you? How do you know me SOOO well? In this thread, the only free thing I could remotely be interpreted to be advocating is that disadvantaged toddlers be given the opportunity to break the cycle of poverty through education. You just want to blame their parents for motives you are able to guess w/o knowing them, then punish the children.

  • trubtold Feb 7, 7:43 p.m.

    How would this new voter Photo ID that the Republican Legislature and Governor are intent on stuffing down our throats affected one of their own...that they would have in a prominent Government position...how do you say hypocrites!!!

  • jljwcj Feb 7, 7:43 p.m.

    Well Bless Your Heart, I don't recall them being put in charge of agenceis. I don't care what side you're on, who on earth puts someone in charge of Division of Child Development with these bizarre beliefs?

    Yea the crooks I were referring too were and are in charge of leading our country? Are you serious?

  • Ken D. Feb 7, 7:39 p.m.

    "potential conflict of interest because she founded and headed an organization that advocated against publicly funded early childhood education programs like NC Pre-K"

    "This is the ONLY valid reason why she shouldn't be in the position. Her comments on Obamacare, gay rights protestors and Hillary Clinton should have no bearing whatsoever. She should be given some credit for resigning, which was the right thing to do. It is a "facepalm" moment for the McCrory camp, though."

    I don't believe her position opposing early childhood education is a valid reason why she shouldn't be appointed. Republicans oppose this and they were elected. And frankly, I don't see that this woman is an aberration. I think she is pretty typical of the modern Republican party. I can't say I'm surprised that the party is embarrassed when the public recognizes this.

    But if you don't want people like her in government, stop electing Republicans.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 7, 7:38 p.m.

    hardycitrus "mother taught Head Start..kids could not count to two, barely knew their names..

    ..Republicans want to kill programs like this..to keep kids on the "schools to prison" track to feed the nations for-profit prison system."

    Please tell me you don't -really- think only Republicans profit from private prisons. If you are actually that brainwashed into the left-right control paradigm then there's very little probability of hope for you.

    I bet you also think that we as a society should keep giving money to people for doing nothing other than simply having babies. People who don't bother to teach their children to count to two.

    Where is the disconnect in the minds of people like you?

    Why can't you understand that the current system SUPPORTS the conditions where children aren't taught to count to two at home?

    Why do NONE of the Libs here think -the system needs to change- in order to change the conditions in which children are used as meal tickets and have no support at home?

  • soyousay Feb 7, 7:28 p.m.

    McCory is just as extreme as she is, he was hoping no one would notice. This was no mistake.

  • Cock a doodle doo Feb 7, 7:24 p.m.

    Where was the main stream media when Obama was running for office? Jerimiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis,Bill Ayers are some great notables to have on your resume. What about the demorcrats caught with their pants down then lied about it under oath> HHMMMM - jljwcj

    Well Bless Your Heart, I don't recall them being put in charge of agenceis. I don't care what side you're on, who on earth puts someone in charge of Division of Child Development with these bizarre beliefs?

  • soyousay Feb 7, 7:24 p.m.

    That whole "anyone smart enough" goes both ways..how smart was this woman to actually tweet the silliness about magic sonic waves and earthquakes ...oh wait her fan club believes that too

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 7, 7:16 p.m.

    jack "Anyone smart enough..to figure out how to bilk the system ..is also smart enough to realize that it's far easier just to apply your intelligence to..profitable work."

    Oh please, if you know so much about people then you'd know that it's not very hard for people to figure out how to get benefits, especially if it's a generational system you grew up in.

    Also you should know that some people are just not inclined to apply themselves academically, the same as they're not inclined to want to work at a legit job.

    You prefer YOUR OWN truth of "the only reason people are poor is because they're being held down by the rich Republicans." [Not rich Democrats of course]

    I've taken people off the street into my home and given them a chance to clean up and get a job. About 1 in 10 have made any progress because most DO NOT WANT TO WORK.

    And people like you make it easy for them not to because you want to give them free everything with no requirements to work on bettering their situation.

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