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  • junkmail5 Feb 6, 2013

    Nitwit Perdue borrowed and borrowed to keep these people on unemployment.- ellengraham5660

    No, there were simply a lot more people unemployed all of a sudden, and they had to borrow to cover the fact that the business owners had been underpaying based on the idea unemployment would never, ever, spike upward.

    Once it did they needed $ to cover the standard benefits.

    The -extended- unemployment benefits were all federally paid, not state funded.

    It may be a state program, but I know that in NY, if you apply for Food Stamps, and meet certain qualifications, you receive a free cell phone with 250 free minutes per month, for as long as you meet the requirements.- aetius476

    No, you don't... from the government anyway.

    A private company might give you one so that they get your service business though.

    http://www.vosizneias.com/27398/2009/02/14/new-york-company-offers-free-cell-phone-service-for-low-income-families/

    Govt pays for the SERVICE. Cell company gives you free phone.

  • junkmail5 Feb 6, 2013

    Actually Junkmail, the only "free" phone you get with the Lifeline program comes from an actual service provider. Just like regular customers can get a free phone when you sign up for service- Gravy Pig

    Yeah, I know that.

    That's why I kept having to correct the Obamaphone people who think the _government_ is giving out free phones.

    You appear to have missed the context of the discussion being about what the government gives away.

    So their thought is to continue giving them free money week after week (on my tax dollar- ellengraham5660

    Your tax dollar does not fund unemployment unless you run a business that hires workers. It's paid for with unemployment taxes on employers.

    Rather than raise that tax to cover the fact they've been underpaying for years they decided to just shaft future unemployed workers instead. It's the republican way!

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 6, 2013

    Actually Junkmail, the only "free" phone you get with the Lifeline program comes from an actual service provider. Just like regular customers can get a free phone when you sign up for service. Verizon, T-Mobile, ATT, all of them offer the phone on their own dime though. This seems to confuse these folks who can't wrap their little heads around a URL or follow a link to read what is what.
    GravyPig

    They give me phones but not IDs? Where is the sense in that?

  • Crumps Br0ther Feb 6, 2013

    It's a fact. One of my wife's friends she works with is responsible for recruiting and hiring at their company and they are always sorting through the applicants that are "over qualified".
    kornfan2448

    Then they need to dumb down their resume'. I read an article a few years ago that people were doing that so they would at least get a phone call.

  • Sumo Vita Feb 5, 2013

    "I know for a FACT the phone is paid for in full by the government"

    Capitalizing the word "fact" doesn't make your statement factual. It's merely anecdotal. Backing up your CLAIM with factual EVIDENCE and actual REFERENCES, now that would make it a fact.

  • kornfan2448 Feb 5, 2013

    "I've heard it all...people don't look for jobs because they fear they will not get the job because they are over qualified..."

    It's a fact. One of my wife's friends she works with is responsible for recruiting and hiring at their company and they are always sorting through the applicants that are "over qualified".

  • lessismore Feb 5, 2013

    I've heard it all...people don't look for jobs because they fear they will not get the job because they are over qualified.....funny....so, just collect unemployment benefits until it runs out, then what?

  • Terkel Feb 5, 2013

    No one ever answered me as to which three companies had "Hiring" signs in the windows.

  • GravyPig Feb 5, 2013

    "No free phones.

    Only a discount on service.

    That has nothing to do with Obama.

    That isn't paid for with income tax either.

    Literally every single thing you have said is factually wrong."

    Actually Junkmail, the only "free" phone you get with the Lifeline program comes from an actual service provider. Just like regular customers can get a free phone when you sign up for service. Verizon, T-Mobile, ATT, all of them offer the phone on their own dime though. This seems to confuse these folks who can't wrap their little heads around a URL or follow a link to read what is what.

  • BigSteamnTurd Feb 5, 2013

    "House Democrats came up short"

    Get very used to hearing that, printing it, living it. The years of the Dem Dummies are over.

  • ellengraham5660 Feb 5, 2013

    So their thought is to continue giving them free money week after week (on my tax dollar) so they can go out and spend it on whatever they want and still not look for a job? Is that what I'm getting from this disgraceful mess??

  • ellengraham5660 Feb 5, 2013

    amen, werewolfwoman...........you and I think on the same page. It's a disgrace the laziness of people and the entitlement mentality of our government. It's a way to keep people dependent on them and "if we give them something, they'll keep voting for us and keep us in office." What a racket.

  • ellengraham5660 Feb 5, 2013

    I hope they do back down the entitlement to $350.00 or there abouts. Nitwit Perdue borrowed and borrowed to keep these people on unemployment. Get off your duff and get SOME kind of job. There is SOMETHING out there you can do. It's easier to stay on unemployment and sit on your behind than to go work at a job that is less than humbling.....I had to do it for two years or more and I didn't bleed the system of unemployment. I am thankful that somebody is trying to put a stop to this parasitic lifestyle that we have come to love and adore so much!

  • aetius476 Feb 5, 2013

    "I thought employers paid for unemployment through payroll taxes, in effect forward-funding unemployment. Don't the feds chip in with funding as well?" - Hippy_mom

    As an employer you must pay SUTA (state) and FUTA (federal) unemplymnet "tax". Once state benefits are exhausted, the Feds will pick-up some additional weeks if certain state unemployment rate guidelines are met.

    That said, the extension by the feds to 99 weeks (at one time), was outside this program. It was part of the "stimulus", and was funded from the general fund. Basically it was borrowed...

  • aetius476 Feb 5, 2013

    No free phones.

    "Only a discount on service.
    That has nothing to do with Obama.
    That isn't paid for with income tax either." --Junkmail5

    It may be a state program, but I know that in NY, if you apply for Food Stamps, and meet certain qualifications, you receive a free cell phone with 250 free minutes per month, for as long as you meet the requirements.

    This was within the past year. I had an elderly aunt (82 YO) who applied, and was given the phone. She recently stopped getting the food stamps, and had to turn in the phone.

    Again, this might be NY state only, or it could be federal, but it was TOTALLY free.

  • junkmail5 Feb 5, 2013

    "fourautumn: what do you call the phones that are given free to each member of a household on welfare?"

    I call them imaginary, because the government does no such thing.

    What they do do is offer a discount.

    On service only.

    To ONE household member.

    And it's not "because you're on welfare" each state has different requirements.

    And they don't give you a free phone.

    And it's paid for by a tax on telecomm providers.

    How are we not clear on this point yet?

  • Nancy Feb 5, 2013

    "the government doesn't give people free cell phones, "

    Sure they do, if you are already on certain programs for federal handouts, this one is available too, here's the application:

    http://www.assurancewireless.com/Images/PDFFiles/CustomerInfo/English/AW_NC_CUSTOMER_CERTIFICATION_ENGLISH.pdf

  • smcallah Feb 5, 2013

    "smcallah: Actually you can stick it to the system. Ex quit job, hired at new place, was on his 3rd write up for bad behavior, quit, got new job, got dui, lost new job, got hired at security company got fire, COLLECTED 500 a week?"

    Actually, that's because he's frauding the system and his last employer didn't fight the fact that he applied for unemployment and received it. That is counted AGAINST the employer, and they must make up for those payments out of their UI account. It's part their fault and part his fault.

  • smcallah Feb 5, 2013

    "fourautumn: what do you call the phones that are given free to each member of a household on welfare?"

    A program that was started under Reagan after the break up of AT&T that was extended to include cell phones under George W. Bush.

    What's it have to do with Obama?

  • werrewolfwoman Feb 5, 2013

    If the majority of people on unemployment in this state have been out of work for more than 26 weeks, then they are either being extremely choosy about what sort of job they will take, or they aren't looking. It will be interesting to see how many of those currently unemployed with the Cadillac version of unemployment benefits stay that way when some parameters are put in place. If a person knows when you start getting unemployment that it is only going to last for 6 months, and it is only so many dollars per week, I think they will look a lot harder and be willing to take something a little less than their "ideal job".

  • kornfan2448 Feb 5, 2013

    I didn't say it was "deplorable", I said it was sad. And I don't pay $50 for my phone, I pay half that, not that it's really anyone's business, and I do not collect any benefits. Who can just sit and wait by a land line phone and wait for a call? If not for my cell phone, I would have missed a call for an interview I have tomorrow that I received yesterday as I was working away from my home where my land line would be. And no, I don't have cable either.

  • junkmail5 Feb 5, 2013

    And no nonsense about "needing" a cell phone if you're job hunting. That's an excuse to take free stuff. And no nonsense about "needing" a cell phone if you're job hunting. That's an excuse to take free stuff. A landline works just fine. Sit and wait for the call. Morrigan

    Uh... first, again, the government doesn't give people free cell phones, no matter what Rush Limbaugh told you.

    For another- if you are OUT applying for and interviewing for jobs, you can't just "sit and wait" for the previous people you interviewed with to call you. Having a cell phone in that case is a HUGE advantage.

    The antique land line you can get rid of if you want to save $, the cell is vastly more useful for job hunting.

    No argument about cable tv being a luxury though :)

  • Terkel Feb 5, 2013

    kornfan, apart from the UE question, why is it deplorable that cell phones and cable are considered luxuries? THEY ARE! They're not a necessity and they're quite expensive. Just think if consumers had been saving instead: $50 x 12 = $600. IDK what cable costs, I've never had it. But the cell phone alone would have been a mortgage payment.

    And no nonsense about "needing" a cell phone if you're job hunting. That's an excuse to take free stuff. A landline works just fine. Sit and wait for the call.

  • Terkel Feb 5, 2013

    "Also, if I were a hiring manager I WOULD NOT HIRE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN SITTING ON THEIR HANDS FOR 3 MONTHS!!"

    You mean like cooking meals for the elderly couple who worked all their lives and now one has cancer? Like mowing the yard of the people who had to abandon the house when the last worker finally lost her job, but we don't want it to look like a wasteland? Like providing free child care for the neighbor who feels lucky to be laying brick for $7/hr under the table? And putting on a cheerful face for all? Like reporting the marauders who come and park at the end of the road and clearly don't belong anywhere around here? Like teaching oneself new skills, just not at public expense?

    Like applying daily for multiple jobs with hiring managers like YOU?

  • GravyPig Feb 5, 2013

    "uh huh dats right....you are wrong..agin.. you can't pay rent with food stamps, you can't buy cigarettes with food stamps, you can't make a car payment with food stamps

    I was in line at the grocery not long ago. I watched as a man pulled out a roll of bills, not ones and fives, but twenties, fifties, and higher, and paid for his 12 pack of beer. Then, his actual food he paid for in food stamps."

    Perhaps what he was pulling out was his bank account. Some folks don't put their money in a Bank, they carry it with them or hide it at home in little mason jars in the back yard.

  • kornfan2448 Feb 5, 2013

    It's sad that as advanced as we are as a society, that our economy has become so bad that cell phones and cable tv are considered luxury items for the middle class and that people that have been laid off from good paying jobs are expected to take a low paying job because that's just what you are expected to do.

  • peace2u Feb 5, 2013

    This is purely a political ploy. At the same time, I know people who collected unemployment and "miraculously" found a job right before the benefits ran out. Also, in some jobs, collecting unemployment is an accepted way of life --work when the weather is good, collect when it isn't. Nothing new.

    Collecting

  • GravyPig Feb 5, 2013

    "For the first time as an adult, I am out of work, have been for the past 2 months. Im a single female, college graduate, home owner and mother of a college student. The reason Im out of work? I was contracting for a major corp, the position went permanent but b/c a perm employee was getting laid off, she was give my slot, even though she HAS none of the qualifications necessary. The ppl who say "there are jobs out there, but they are jobs no one wants"..thats a crock. Since 2008 when my 18 year career at IBM ended due to downsizing, I've been working jobs no one else wants so i can pay my mortgage, and now, even this B/S jobs are not available. These ppl who think there are jobs needs a reality check and I want them to pay a mortgage and car payment (on a used car) plus everyday expenses on $311/wk. I have sent @50 resumes and have had 2 return calls. Everyday I am on career websites ad apply for almost anything. Unemployment isnt a joy ride, maybe those saying it is should try"

    I fe

  • Chemist18 Feb 5, 2013

    Okay, here are some facts, like them or not:

    You only collect unemployment if you are dismissed for a reason other than negligence. While you are collecting unemployment you have to report in once a week, among the questions you are asked are the following:
    Did you do any work last week?
    Were you offered any work last week?

    Answering any of those questions with a lie is a crime.

    Companies like those in Pharma are continually cutting jobs because they can, they know the employees they have left can be squeezed even harder.

    NC cut taxes on corporations to encourage them to hire folks. How do those corporations respond? Oh boy, now we can cut more without paying for it.

    I'm neither conservative nor liberal, I have issues with both sides, I do have to say that the conservatives excel at clouding most issues by spewing pure hate while liberals take the bait. But then I'm typing here so maybe I'm guilty of taking the bait too...

  • goldenosprey Feb 5, 2013

    The republicans have played you like fiddles. Once they slash UE bennies the unemployed will qualify for and go on foodstamps faster, medicaid faster, housing and utility assistance faster, Reaganphones too, and you will be paying way more as taxpayers than you were for UI. Suckers! Only you'll ALL pay, not just the responsible erstwhile job creators. Employers across NC should thank NC taxpayers for lifting a potential burden from them, freeing them to lay off workers at a low cost and pass the taxes onto you! What good little handmaidens of the "business community" our GA is.

  • junkmail5 Feb 5, 2013

    Okay folks, maybe Obama did not start the free phone, but he sure is supporting it during his terms in office, hence, obama phone term.- heavenly

    No, he's not supporting it either.

    THERE IS NO FREE GOVERNMENT PHONE.

    IT DOES NOT EXIST.

    The _cell phone_ companies are giving away free phones. Not the government.

    the only thing the government gives is a $9.25 a month discount on phone SERVICE.

    And no, Obama doesn't have the power to "stop" even that.

    You might wanna read the US Constitution sometime to understand why.

  • Wake1 Feb 5, 2013

    It's expensive to give money away!

  • goldenosprey Feb 5, 2013

    "Just remember: All those UNEMPLOYED republican voters voted to put in a republican controlled congress."

    Because some of us think of what's good for the country FIRST, then think what benefits us personally. That's the difference between Reps and Dems.-morrigan

    Your last two sentences are correct except for the word "because". Now, which is which?

  • FourAutumn Feb 5, 2013

    "Actually that is a fact, the Obama phone. Phones are given out to those on the system for foodstamps and welfare checks that meet certain requirements (which I will not go into as you can pull up the local Social Services website and see for yourself) so FourAutumn, you need to do your research before you jump into the deep part of the water. And yes, I know this for a fact because I know people who actually have the phones. No hearsay, no blog talk, fact"

    I think you just drowned in the shallow water.

    The "obama phone" is something that has been around since W. It is not paid for by taxpayers, but by telecommunications company.

    Try to understand things before you look sillier.

  • jgilchr Feb 5, 2013

    So does anyone know if trickle down economics started working yet? Are those incentives for "job creators" finally kicking in (instead of them pocketing the extra money)? Is corporate welfare working? It must be if they decided to cut unemployment benefits, either that or the NC GOP has a plan to reduce unemployment in that state. Oh wait...

  • dontstopnow Feb 5, 2013

    Okay folks, maybe Obama did not start the free phone, but he sure is supporting it during his terms in office, hence, obama phone term. Since Regan is dead and no longer a factor, can you let him rest please. And the last time I checked, Bush is no longer the president so since Obama has the power within his administration to stop this insanity, he gets the current prize of blame for keeping it going. Is that better for all you folks that want to argue about those FREE phones?

  • ILoveDowntownRaleigh Feb 5, 2013

    "And btw Junkmail, your handle is so very appropriate to your posts." - Heavenly

    "...where you steal from your employer all day. How sad." - Morrigan

    If you folks have some new and thought-provoking ideas...or (gasp!) relevant facts to share about this news article, please do share them. Otherwise...

  • Terkel Feb 5, 2013

    "But you of course have a job and feel that defrauding your employer is much better than being unemployed and on the internet." Unbroken, to pelosi

    IKR? Work and jobs are noble, until they sit down at their employers' desks, then they're just as "entitled" as the moochers they revile. Hey pelosi, tell me where you work and I'll apply for your job...including a link to this board!

  • junkmail5 Feb 5, 2013

    junkmail, you are not always the authority on everything like you try to convince this blog. I know for a FACT the phone is paid for in full by the government- Heavenly

    Except, it's not.

    30 seconds on google would've told you how wrong you were.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

    No free phones.

    Only a discount on service.

    That has nothing to do with Obama.

    That isn't paid for with income tax either.

    Literally every single thing you have said is factually wrong.

  • goldenosprey Feb 5, 2013

    I would ask you this arfamr- Why should unemployed workers be forced to make up more of the difference? goldenosprey February 5, 2013 11:18 a.m. Report abuse

    Not anymore. The reason UE is bein cut is because democrats borrowed $2B from the Feds to pay for it. Who paid that $2B? You have no clue what you're talking about.-amfamr1007

    We know who FAILED to pay for it. The employers who dropped their rolls. Does that clue you in or where the $ should have come from?

  • smcallah Feb 5, 2013

    "Are you really puting on your Walmart application that you have a masters degree and 15 years experience in your field? Lol @ you. That's pretty silly if you ask me"

    Are you really lying on your job applications? That's pretty immoral if you ask me. And if you get fired for having done that, you DON'T get unemployment.

  • smcallah Feb 5, 2013

    "I keep reading these comments about employers not hiring because you are 'over qualified".. well why not write your resume to reflect what the employer is looking for instead of giving him your entire skills set to eliminate that problem? I have been writing resumes for years and can tell you, this works if you know how to speak only to the skills needed for the job and don't toot your horn about all those things they are not looking for. :)"

    Lying on a job application will get you fired or worse.

    If I have to fill out an application for working at Harris Teeter because I'm afraid of mooching off of everyone while I'm out of work, Harris Teeter probably isn't going to hire me if I have to write IBM or some other tech company on my application. Since they'd assume I'm still looking for another job in my career field and not looking to stay at a grocery store.

  • Terkel Feb 5, 2013

    Heavenly, I've heard that advice too about falsifying resumes.

    In the first place, it's not always possible. How does an ex-IT pro lie and say she was a secretary? Because contrary to the myths here, not everyone thinks they're too good to take a 75% step down in pay.

    In the second place, let's say you hand in your printed lie. But then you have to fill out the application truthfully and attest to same with your signature. Employers, bosses, dates, DUTIES and SALARY will be required information.

    Remember, you WILL be found out; it's not like 20 yrs ago when you could fudge and not get caught because there was no Internet to speak of.

    You never hear from them again or you're fired for cause (lying on application), leaving you worse off than before because now you've been fired (forget about another job for a looooong time) and you can't collect UE.

  • Hippy_mom Feb 5, 2013

    "Bill sponsor Rep. Julia Howard rebuffed each attempt to change the bill, saying that the issue comes down to allowing employers to use their money to create jobs or having them pay taxes with it."

    I'm confused (and I'm not being sarcastic, I really have a question): I thought employers paid for unemployment through payroll taxes, in effect forward-funding unemployment. Don't the feds chip in with funding as well?

  • GravyPig Feb 5, 2013

    "Ignorance is" - lessismore

  • dontstopnow Feb 5, 2013

    And btw Junkmail, your handle is so very appropriate to your posts.

  • dontstopnow Feb 5, 2013

    junkmail, you are not always the authority on everything like you try to convince this blog. I know for a FACT the phone is paid for in full by the government. Like I said, I personally know people who have them so try again!

  • MitziGaynor Feb 5, 2013

    smcallah: Actually you can stick it to the system. Ex quit job, hired at new place, was on his 3rd write up for bad behavior, quit, got new job, got dui, lost new job, got hired at security company got fire, COLLECTED 500 a week?

    I lived it, so that is utter bs. And if they don't get U/E they are directed to go for the disability benefits. It's a system that is enabling the takers, and we are running out of givers.

  • Grand Union Feb 5, 2013

    "Make up what difference? They are getting a check for not working. You really should get a grip on reality"

    No they are getting check because they have unemployment insurance as part of their former job. Can I come burn your house down and then complain when you get a check to rebuild?????

    and a check that is not far off minimum wage is going to encourage many not to get a job if they could? Talk about needing a grip on reality!

  • MitziGaynor Feb 5, 2013

    Grand Union: hey troll. U/E is a TEMPORARY situation, I'd say 2+ years is plenty of time. North Dakota is booming. Sometimes you have to make drastic changes and quit expecting the everyone to carry your load.

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