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charmcclainlovesdogs2 Feb 1, 3:15 p.m.
Whose gun did it belong to? If he got it from home, the parents should be charged, no question about it. Guns at homes should be locked up and secured. But many don't do that. They have all kinds of excuses why they do not.
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Feb 1, 3:14 p.m.
Demetrius Donte Brown, 17, was charged with carrying a concealed weapon, possession of a gun on educational property, possession of a stolen firearm, resisting, delaying or obstructing a law enforcement officer and possession with intent to sell or deliver marijuana.
Expell this young many for the rest of the year. The parents mean while should absolutely get him some help. If they don't, he may wind up in the prison system.
Grand Union Feb 1, 3:01 p.m.
""Religious or not, I take great offense that you blame this gun violence on atheists. "
And since Europeans have far higher rates of Atheism and far lower rates of murder if anything it indicates the opposite is likely true. Anyone naive enough to be religious is likely naive enough to swallow the NRAs koolaid.
Grand Union Feb 1, 2:59 p.m.
"WHAT?? Someone carrying a gun to school? Aren't schools "no gun" zones? And yet this kid managed to bring one? I guess the law didn't deter him...-mrschizzy"
no but not being able to get a gun would have.....we can't stop people breaking laws but we can stop making it easy for them to do so.
WooHoo2You Feb 1, 1:40 p.m.
WHAT?? Someone carrying a gun to school? Aren't schools "no gun" zones? And yet this kid managed to bring one? I guess the law didn't deter him...-mrschizzy
But the handcuffs and bars will prevent him from doing it again....if only this student had easy access to a gun this might have all be avoided right?
mrschizzy Feb 1, 1:03 p.m.
WHAT?? Someone carrying a gun to school? Aren't schools "no gun" zones? And yet this kid managed to bring one? I guess the law didn't deter him...
talkaboutit Feb 1, 10:49 a.m.
i challange WRAL to tell the rest of the story. Can we for once look into this kid's background? who are his parents? where are his parents? What is their take on this? shine a spotlight on one of these kids. tell the story. in so doing, you just might hold a mirror up to some other kids and their parents so they understand how the world sees them. otherwise, we will continue to lose this kids forever.
dwr1964 Feb 1, 10:44 a.m.
I am sure he is the apple of his mother's eye. Such a great kid, selling dope at school, carrying his pistol, acting all bad and stuff. What a waste of human flesh this kid is.
birkie74693 Feb 1, 8:27 a.m.
Marsupial says: "Religious or not, I take great offense that you blame this gun violence on atheists. "
You're absolutely right, Marsupial. Two minutes checking stats on the web shows: Atheists in the USA are anywhere from 6% to 10% of the population, depending on whose numbers you use. Atheists in prisons are 0.3% or thereabouts, depending again on whose numbers you use. Conclusion: atheists are MORE law-abiding than "Christians." QED.
Scubagirl Feb 1, 8:16 a.m.
Expel this gangsta wanna be from school, let him also do a little time in prison for his actions. Make the sentence COUNT. If determined the gun came from his parents, charge them as well!
ENOUGH OF THIS!!!
and to admyank should you do that you should also be locked up
donnied19522 Feb 1, 8:03 a.m.
He must be mentally incapable of making the right decisions, like follow the rules everyone else does. He should have a mental evaluation and a really hard slap on the wrist
Scubagirl Jan 31, 7:58 p.m.
stupid, stupid, stupid, especially these days. He HAD to know better.
twetherby Jan 31, 7:58 p.m.
Whatthehey - Please cite your statistics about "worst record in the county for violence." I am betting you can't and that you are making it up. I have had children in several of the county's high schools, and Athens ranks no where near the top. However, what does get reported is that Athens was one of the 11 schools in Wake County listed in the Washington Post's "Best High Schools." That means that at least 14 other high schools in Wake County are lower than Athens. Please, get your facts straight.
marsupial75 Jan 31, 7:35 p.m.
"No God, no rules." -keymania
I'm glad that the only reason you do anything nice or follow any rules is because of a fear of God, not because you want to help society or just be a good person.
Religious or not, I take great offense that you blame this gun violence on atheists. Christians break rules all the time, Muslims do, Jews do, etc. etc. etc. And there are many, MANY atheists who know right from wrong. How many shootings have occurred due to the shooter's atheism? Religion, or lack thereof, aren't solving anything
Tug Boat II Jan 31, 7:33 p.m.
I could not agree more. Well said!!!
Constitutional-Defender Jan 31, 7:27 p.m.
Did he get the firearm legally? Did he have a background check? Did he not know it was illegal to bring a firearm to school? why do people not follow the law? We should make a law that says quit breaking the law. LOL
offthegrid7165 Jan 31, 7:00 p.m.
Why and when did that happen? Nephesh Kai
That's a great question NK... Some may say it was when our country turned it's back on God..... embraced selfishness and greed, turned its back on responsibility, and integrity... just to name a few.... The bottom line... family has been under attack via our government, the media, movies, etc... for decades.... If you ask me.... it all started with the destruction of family.... Children need parents to teach them responsibility, respect, integrity, the value of honest work, humility, patience, selfless love, and on, and on, and on. Kids today are being raised by video games, television shows, movies, the local community center, child care facility, etc....and the only face time they kids get with mom and dad??? It's pathetic what our society has become. So selfish, uncaring, cold hearted.....
Whatthehey Jan 31, 6:48 p.m.
Wake Tech has K-9 officers come through all the classes regularly to sniff backpacks and pocketbooks (they can detect gun powder, explosives, as well as drugs) - it would be easy, inexpensive, and effective to start this routinely in the high schools. Athens has the worst record in the county for violence, have had RDU SEU teams there so often kids hardly notice them. This should be the first school to police with random searches by dogs. This incident shouldn't be about gun control - it should be about giving warning that administrators need to make schools safer as long as they are going to try to educate people who shouldn't even be in school and who use school as the place to sell guns, drugs, and services.
junkmail5 Jan 31, 6:42 p.m.
It's the video games and movies parents let their kids see, often at too early an age-Nephesh Kai
No, it's clearly not.
Canada watches the same stuff, plays the same games, massively lower murder/gun murder rate.
The dutch spend 2x per capita on video games compared to us, again very little gun violence.
bombayrunner Jan 31, 6:34 p.m.
cant fix stupid
Scubagirl Jan 31, 6:09 p.m.
a high school student today has GOT to know better
DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:47 p.m.
iron fist - "What is wrong with young children? When I grew up you never heard of guns in school a good old fist fight took care of all issues then usually after the fight shook hands and all was over."
When I was in school in the 50s and 60s, every guy that drove a pickup truck to school, most likely had a hunting rifle hanging from a holder in the back window of its cab.
Nowadays a student can't even take a small nail clipper to school.
It's the video games and movies parents let their kids see, often at too early an age.
Why do so many parents nowadays ignore the rating on games and movies???
But then, we had Roy Rogers and Dale Evans. They had guns and shot at people, and sometimes the people they shot died.
So where did the change happen between kids being raised to have character and a sense of compassion for others, and not?
Cause it's clear a huge number of today's kids have neither.
Why and when did that happen?
4Strikes Jan 31, 5:33 p.m.
Go ahead and enforce whatever laws you already have. No need for a bunch of kneejerk legislators to rush to make new ones...and when everyone stops hyperventilating over this, you'll realize that not much (or anything really) happened here.
lwe1967 Jan 31, 5:32 p.m.
You can't just council the kids on no weapons. If they bring weapons, the punishment should be stiff and hold the parents responsible if the kid is under 18 as they are responsible for him/her until the age of 18. No other child in the school should have to be afraid of this. It is just horrible!
iron fist Jan 31, 5:23 p.m.
What is wrong with young children? When I grew up you never heard of guns in school a good old fist fight took care of all issues then usually after the fight shook hands and all was over.
clintoflannagan Jan 31, 5:18 p.m.
"Can you lawfully own a gun at 18? If so he could be a law abiding gun carrier that many people seem to think that should be able to carry guns anywhere because that is their right"
It doesn't matter how old you are it is illegal to have a gun on school property.
Bartmeister Jan 31, 5:16 p.m.
Hmmm, just trying to remember which new Obama gun law would have prevented this incident.
exador7 Jan 31, 5:12 p.m.
What was his reason for having it there??
Mustange Jan 31, 5:05 p.m.
(Can you lawfully own a gun at 18? If so he could be a law abiding gun carrier that many people seem to think that should be able to carry guns anywhere because that is their right) He has that right when he turns 21 and has met all the requirements for a CCW permit just cant take it on school property.
mys1983 Jan 31, 5:02 p.m.
rsgolo-the thought did cross my mind...unfortunately
scvmcdoc Jan 31, 5:02 p.m.
We law abiding citizens who own handguns and have a permit to leagally carry it know that we are not allowed to carry them on ANY Educational Property.
Just another bad guy Jan 31, 4:58 p.m.
Beachmama, He can own a long gun but not a pistol. Prior to owning a gun, one should learn the cans and can'ts of where you can go with one. As a student, I'm sure he's known so...
beachmama Jan 31, 4:48 p.m.
Can you lawfully own a gun at 18? If so he could be a law abiding gun carrier that many people seem to think that should be able to carry guns anywhere because that is their right
Kwasmyde Jan 31, 4:43 p.m.
I agree that this student should be severely punished. Bringing a gun to school is no small issue. I also agree that depending upon the situation of how this gun was acquired that the owner should also be punished. Some have mentioned that its not right to punish others for this kids crime, but if it was improperly secured then they are at fault and should be charged.
As for protecting schools, no solution will ever be perfect. We already can't afford to pay our teachers what they deserve, we certainly can't be buying metal detectors and armed guards. Do you want your child frisked cause they had some metal on them? Kids will ALWAYS find ways to smuggle in items they shouldn't have, there is no stopping that. In terms of stopping strangers, lock all doors and require them to be buzzed in.
Finally, zero tolerance may sound great, but not always the best solution. I recall a story of a young child getting suspended cause his pencil sharper broke and had an exposed razor blade in it.
swoodsreader Jan 31, 4:38 p.m.
It all boils down to parenting but people just won't admit it.
puzzled Jan 31, 4:36 p.m.
Ha, we have some law makers & judges in NC right now who are discussing raising the age of minors to 18 so people can get a job when they are older. This is exactly the problem. Hold people responsible for their actions.
starrstacey Jan 31, 4:35 p.m.
Was it a stolen hand gun or one taken from his/her parents' home?
keymania Jan 31, 4:32 p.m.
No God, no rules. The atheists have destroyed our moralities in the home and schools. No wonder our prisons are full and criminals have to be released to make room for more ???????
rsgolo Jan 31, 4:29 p.m.
"Life without parole eh? Wow you must be in the prison business."
While his statement was a little extreme, his basic point is correct: tougher laws altogether.
rsgolo Jan 31, 4:28 p.m.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child. A lot of parents won't even try to discipline their children anymore. They say if they do social services will be on them. I know, I know that is an excuse to not have to deal with their behavior. And look what a generation of 'kids with no conscious'. They do not value life or nothing else. It should be a responsibility of parents to get control of these wild kids."
I have an aunt and uncle who, out of fear of social services being called on them by their spiteful neighbors, were afraid to whoop their children, or use any form of punishment other than yelling 'don't do that!' Now, they have a promiscuous daughter and a son who treats them like they don't exist. I believe in what you've said here 100%.
OGE Jan 31, 4:26 p.m.
He was only practicing his right to bear arms!
rsgolo Jan 31, 4:23 p.m.
"They're trying to lump all these stories together to try drum up more useless gun laws that won't stop people from doing these things. They don't have to create a conspiracy."
Thus the reason I stated at the beginning of my statement/question that it was "total conspiracy theorist rhetoric." You and I both know that they are trying to drum up support for their gun law agenda, but those pieces of paper they draw up won't have any effect on what's going on with the world today. If people want assault rifles, they can go around the law. They already do.
lessismore Jan 31, 4:22 p.m.
rsgolo... wrong, the media is trying to help Obama and his anti-gun agenda and every time a gun is mention, even a toy gun, the media blasts it for days..... Nothing get past the liberal news media...nothing, unless it is something that would put Obama in an embarrassing situation. The courts rules that Obama violated the constitution by making appointments while congress was in session...and he did, but not a single liberal news media put it in the headlines....only FOX reported it.
Jameson Jan 31, 4:22 p.m.
Dont believe the hype. Facts are better. Crime rates committed with firearms across the board, across locations, and across categories, are on average half of what they were twenty years ago.
mmtlash Jan 31, 4:21 p.m.
I know folks are gun obsessed at the moment but honestly does every single story related to guns in any way have to be top stories day after day? *sigh*
marciamal1 Jan 31, 4:20 p.m.
Terrible to think that these teens are bringing guns to school - i think a lot of shooting and having guns is coming from all the video games being played today - thats all they have in these games is shooting, drugs etc - and i believe they are getting the ideas from all that -
oleguy Jan 31, 4:20 p.m.
Tomaso is correct,, We removed the Bible, and the 10 commandments from school, Prayer and see what we got left,, Guns drugs sex, now armed guards, well we got armed guards in the prisons,, along with Guns, Knives,drugs and sex,, We the people need to take back our country ,,
jackleg Jan 31, 4:15 p.m.
These incidents have been common for years, but people are just noticing them more (and they are getting headlines these days). I graduated from Fuquay in 1996 and there were a few guns caught there that I know of, and it never made the front page of the newspaper.
Fireflies Rock Jan 31, 4:15 p.m.
so was the gun loaded or not? That seems to be a pertinent detail left out of the article
dsalter Jan 31, 4:14 p.m.
People simply have to be more careful about securing their firearms...just like the keys to their cars. Neither should fall into unqualified hands.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03