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  • raleighro Feb 1, 10:14 p.m.

    Look at all of the complainers on here. There is a reason Bev didn't run again, the same reason Mccrory was elected. The people put him in to fix the huge financial mess that the dems put the state in. You people just don't get it, if the money isn't there, you can't spend it! You talk about the GOP not caring about people, you say that people are in so much trouble that they need the help. It doesn't matter if they need it desperately, THERE IS NO MONEY! If you make 500 a week, and your bills add up to 900 a month what do you do? You have no choice but to cut back. How do you expect the government to run on a different set of rules? Let's put this in more perspective. You are making 500 a week, bills are 900 a month, and the guy next door is going hungry. You people that cry about how much people need unemployment would take money from your 500, putting you even further in the hole to buy him food? I don't think so. See, it's simple math people.

  • tigo7 Feb 1, 5:06 p.m.

    As business is regulated to the extent there are no businesses and therefore jobs to be had, then this reduces business revenues and therefore taxes going into the IRS/Feds and the State and that is part of the money that pays for the unemployment benefits so this is not FREE money. The well can run dry as there are more people needing govt benefits than there are working and paying into the reserve that pays out the benefits. Business can not expand and grow if the business has too many unknowns such as how much it costs to do business and so many regulations can prevent business growth and not knowing exactly how much health care is going to cost is also a factor. Just wait until 2 years from now it is probably not going to get better.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Feb 1, 3:36 p.m.

    St Ives - "I hope all who voted Republican remember this when it comes the tme they lose their job this Summer. I believe the saying is SOL"

    I hate to point this out, but this mistake was made when Democrats were in office, and it was further compounded by Democrats holding office for decades who repeatedly lowered the rates of Unemployment Insurance premiums paid for by businesses in this state, letting the Fund for it get seriously low.

    The Fund was audited a few years back by an independent company who advised them to up the rates. They didn't.

    And someone in this state kept voting to re-elect them.

    Why?

    Are the vast majority of us really this dumb?

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Feb 1, 3:32 p.m.

    oleguy -

    "A 10.00 Job will be the norm." Who gets $10 an hour?

    "Adjust your life style" What makes you think no one has?

    "I feel sorry for people raised in entitlement life by the Govt,, That is over,,,Get out get a job, help your neighbor, Barter, Cut Back." Tell that to someone who's blind or deaf or elderly. Tell it to someone who worked and paid into the system already for 47 years and now is sick or disabled and is of retirement age.

    "save" How does one save when one has little to nothing?

    "One car, one phone ,one TV, set the thermo to 65 winter, 80 summer, open the windows spring an fall," Yeah, we already do that.

    "plant a garden, get chickens" Many areas have restrictive covenants prohibiting that.

    "Those of us over 50 have lived just as well with a lot less" Yep, and I'm blessed I did, because now I know how to live on little, but I also recognize there are those who didn't grow up like that and need help, if in no more than educating them how to do so.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Feb 1, 3:28 p.m.

    Sarge - "You have to prove it, therein lies the crux."

    Shouldn't have to prove it when there's a Federal DOE who should be investigating this stuff by reviewing the paperwork required to be kept for one year by each and every employer.

    If that paperwork showed people of all ages being interviewed and hired, then that employer is fair.

    If that paperwork shows only the young being hired, perhaps not, and the investigator should begin to see red flags and ask questions.

    The problem is, the Federal DOE isn't doing all of they could do to ensure no age discrimination is occurring.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Feb 1, 3:25 p.m.

    whiffer -

    I agree.

    And your story is the RULE nowadays, not the EXCEPTION, nor is it a story of someone laying back not doing anything to get a job, which is also an EXCEPTION nowadays.

    If people would do their own research on this (or face the situation themselves) before commenting, not only would they look wiser, there'd be more compassion shown in their thoughts and comments.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Feb 1, 3:24 p.m.

    Raleigh Rocks - "Where the heck does it come from?"

    Well, as has been shared here DOZENS OF TIMES BEFORE, unemployment is supported by Unemployment Insurance premiums paid for by every single employer in this state having at least 50 employees or more.

    Their premium amount is calculated based upon their layoff record; if they rarely layoff employees, their premium is low; however, if they have a lousy layoff record, their premium is high. They pay this premium regularly, either monthly or quarterly. The only way this would cost taxpayers is perhaps indirectly through the cost of doing business with these employers - so it pays to do business with companies having a good layoff record rather than a lousy one.

    If the unemployment compensation is cut, many will then qualify for welfare/food stamps which are funded by taxpayers.

    So, it seems this is just another way to ease the burden of employers in this state and shift it onto the taxpayer which is shameful to me, in many ways.

  • whiffer1 Feb 1, 10:58 a.m.

    The GOP had better tread lightly on this issue. I for one take a very dim view of cutting UI benefits so drastically. As someone had been gainfully employed for over 30 years and was laid off at the pit of the recession the benefits allowed me to stay afloat for the almost 10 months it took me to find employment. And to those who have never experienced this I'll just say I was a top performer in my field of sales earning an above average income. I applied to hundreds of positions within a 100 mile radius and over 10 months had only 5 interview request. The position I eventually accepted was at a salary almost half what I was making. I was happy to get it and after 2 years of dedication and hard work I am almost back to my old level of earnings. So I simply say it is not right to go and pull the rug out from under those really trying to recover.

  • goldenosprey Feb 1, 9:12 a.m.

    "GrandOnion said..Of course unemployment payments stimulated the economy during the recession. How could they not as the put money into the economy that otherwise would not be there.

    Well You have lost all credibility now. ..Otherwise would not be there???? Where the heck does it come from? Gov. Takes it from somewhere and if they did not take it, and take a cut for distributing it..."Raleigh Rocks 1

    Better re-do your clueless check. Money paid in UI benefits is immediately put back into the economy as the newly unemployed decide which bills to pay. Otherwise the money would most likely be hoarded by the former job creator -who does not spend it to create a job. Or the funds are parked offshore. This is basic econ RR1.

  • goldenosprey Feb 1, 9:08 a.m.

    "Now if everyone could earn six figures that would be fine but they can't, many simply don't have the skills to do so and even if they did there are only so many six figure jobs.

    Grand Union

    so you are trying to say that those who got off their rear and took advantage of opportunity should make up for those that didn't?
    lrfarms27572"

    I know a lot of people who "earn" high incomes who spend an awful lot of time on their rear, while their subordinates scramble for barely better than sustenance wages. Accumulation of wealth does not necessarily equal hard work, nor does it necessarily equal moral virtue. The reverse is true also.

  • Raleigh Rocks 1 Feb 1, 8:41 a.m.

    GrandOnion said..Of course unemployment payments stimulated the economy during the recession. How could they not as the put money into the economy that otherwise would not be there.

    Well You have lost all credibility now. ..Otherwise would not be there???? Where the heck does it come from? Gov. Takes it from somewhere and if they did not take it, and take a cut for distributing it...then they would not have it...IE it would be in the market.... in folks pocket, letting them choose how to spend it. Yes I know it comes from business, but it ultimatly comes from people. Comment on his specific quote. How do you take money from one person, give it to another, and think thats stimulating the economy...If we all stopped working and went on unemployment, based on your logic...the economy would grow like crazy. It is you sir, that is showing your clueless status.

  • Grand Union Feb 1, 8:30 a.m.

    "Some people actually believe unemployment stimulates the economy....hahahaha... If that were true we all need to stop working and go on unemployment...think of how much faster our economy would recover if we all stopped working....that is twisted logic that Nancy Pelosi spewed....and some liberal democrats actually believe it....how funny.... Unemployment simulates the economy...."

    are you really this clueless? Of course unemployment payments stimulated the economy during the recession. How could they not as the put money into the economy that otherwise would not be there. Furthermore they reduced the number of foreclosures and so stopped the collapse of the housing market.

  • Sarge Feb 1, 8:21 a.m.

    Sarge - "and they're going to say, "too Old (or whatever)" on the reason they weren't hired... lol yeah RIGHT!"

    The paperwork would reveal it without anyone saying a thing.

    But then, as a Sarge, you'd know that. Right?

    You have to prove it, therein lies the crux.

  • oleguy Feb 1, 7:00 a.m.

    Hay folks, The days of high pay , do nothing jobs are over,,3,4,5 percent increases JUst Because, Are over.. Way too many service providing jobs OVER, HDTV,Recording in 5 rooms, Video Chat,Unlimited Data,, A 10.00 Job will be the norm,, Adjust your life style,, I feel sorry for people raised in entitlement life by the Govt,, That is over,,,Get out get a job, help your neighbor, Barter, Cut Back, save,,,One car, one phone ,one TV, set the thermo to 65 winter, 80 summer, open the windows spring an fall, I heat my house maybe 2.5 months, Cool only on days that are above 80 at night, Find things to do at home with your family, plant a garden, get chickens, drink water, Those of us over 50 have lived just as well with a lot less,,,

  • caryzoo Jan 31, 9:05 p.m.

    lessismore..name does not fit (less is even less). I know many of my daughter's friends (late teens, early twenties)as well as myself. Who work 3 part time jobs, they never clear more than 300 a week. Gas is 100 a week (gas is not cheap). Basic math here...4.3 weeks per month times 300 equals 1290. If you have 2 or 3 children, and have a 3 bedroom cheap apartment somewhere SAFE..which in this area is about 850 a month. Hmmm...1290-850-430 (gas). Gee...after 200-300 in utilities, you have exactly 10 for food, car insurance, car repairs since it is an old vehicle and needs repairs(no car payment...can't afford it!)If you can feed 4 people on 10 a month and still survive, kudos to you. I am a coupon/sale queen, I cannot do it. OH..yeah..doing all those "start your own business" things...uh...you need business and liability insurance. You are violating state law by not having it. Are you saying we should break the law? Or have you not done basic math yet?

  • St Ives Jan 31, 8:32 p.m.

    I hope all who voted Republican remember this when it comes the tme they lose their job this Summer. I believe the saying is SOL

  • anametoknow Jan 31, 8:22 p.m.

    Hey Lessismore> I hope you are never unemployed in the future. You lack emphathy for the unemployed and assume that the all people unemployed are lazy. I hope you never have to experience the numerous rejections of looking for work and not getting hired because you are too old or too experienced. The $535 payment was before taxes and really only amounted to $400 or even less after federal and state income taxes. The new amount of $350 is before taxes also and will only be given to the unemployed who made probably $30,000 a year. This amount will probably be $250 a week after taxes. Anyone making less than $30,000 will receive less than $350/week. This amount will not even be enough for gas and food for a family of four or more. Stop blaming PRESIDENT OBAMA, this program existed before he was even President. The previous three Presidents were Republicans. Their screw up of the economy caused this mess. PRESIDENT OBAMA IS FOR ALL PEOPLE EVEN SELFISH ONES.

  • greg69innc Jan 31, 8:21 p.m.

    I too was unemployed for an extremely long time. I did volunteer work to keep my job skills sharp, odd jobs here and there and yes I drew my unemployment. The sad thing is that if a person is drawing unemployment they are looked at as a dirty rotten bum which is wrong. I heard it time and time again that I was over qualified for menial positions.

    I agree we need to revamp the unemployment I believe they should work strenously to get the unemployment down and then revamp unemployment. Hanging our citizens out to dry is not ethical and we should all realize that we could in that position as the other half a million people in NC are.

  • stanggt Jan 31, 8:10 p.m.

    Good...quit the spending!!!

  • lessismore Jan 31, 8:04 p.m.

    Some people actually believe unemployment stimulates the economy....hahahaha... If that were true we all need to stop working and go on unemployment...think of how much faster our economy would recover if we all stopped working....that is twisted logic that Nancy Pelosi spewed....and some liberal democrats actually believe it....how funny.... Unemployment simulates the economy....

  • No Party Affiliate Jan 31, 7:50 p.m.

    If the unemployment is trimmed down on my friends and family I will still have to foot the bill to help them. If not taxes then out of my own pocket which restricts me from buying anything and helping the economy.

    Would you help your family and friends eat by selling your home, car, boat, RV and empty your 401K?

    I guess its a question you can answer to the Ulmighty himself.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 7:49 p.m.

    "To remove tens of thousands of consumers from a contracting economy is extremely shortsighted. The result will be more jobs lost, more people on the street and more business failures. It's not clear who, if anyone, will benefit from that."

    And will result from those same people going on welfare and food stamps to survive, benefits which THE TAXPAYER FUNDS, instead of leaving them on unemployment which THE EMPLOYER FUNDS.

    Idiocy!!!

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 7:47 p.m.

    Rebelyell55 - "Them repbulicans taking care of their corp. masters, making those who can lease afford it to pay back the money the goverment wasted. Even after giving business a ride for years at the lower rate, knowing the funds won't there."

    It was the Democrats who gave businesses a ride at the lower rate FOR DECADES Rebel - not the Republicans.

    But now the Republicans are compounding the problem by not correcting what the Democrats did, and worse - sticking it to those without jobs and without money - simply to try to keep from sticking it to employers EQUALLY who they fear might take their jobs and businesses elsewhere.

    I say, do it 50/50, or look for the $$$ elsewhere.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 7:44 p.m.

    Morrigan - "But no, a sensible employer wants to run the business they got into with a loyal, reliable crew. Even if you don't "care" about your emps, it's just working smarter not harder."

    That's surely what I'd do, but how many employers do you know nowadays that put their employees ahead of their profits?

    Pretty darn few, I'd say.

    SAS maybe.

    That's the only one I can think of, and that's a maybe cause I'm not too familiar with the company and their methods in recent years.

  • Terkel Jan 31, 7:35 p.m.

    Nephesh - or they want to get underqualified people on the cheap, see if they can turn them into silk purses (no disrespect intended) while paying for sow's ears, and then shrug, "Sink or swim," once it's apparent it's not going to work out.

    But no, a sensible employer wants to run the business they got into with a loyal, reliable crew. Even if you don't "care" about your emps, it's just working smarter not harder.

  • No Party Affiliate Jan 31, 7:22 p.m.

    "Unemployment benefits are immediately pumped back into the economy because the recipients use them for necessities. To remove tens of thousands of consumers from a contracting economy is extremely shortsighted. The result will be more jobs lost, more people on the street and more business failures. It's not clear who, if anyone, will benefit from that."

    WOW! Common sense all the way. I'm just glad someone else see's this as well.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 6:35 p.m.

    They can't even budget their OWN money:

    NC SENATOR'S PROPERTY SET FOR FORECLOSURE SALE

    TARBORO, NC — A foreclosure sale on property belonging to six-term Democratic state Sen. Clark Jenkins of Tarboro is scheduled for April.
    Jenkins and his wife defaulted on a loan owned by PNC Bank and owe $488,800.36, including $35,701.34 in past due payments, $1,235.52 in late fees and $225.50 in other related costs.

    An affidavit submitted by PNC on Dec. 12, 2012, said the last payment made on the loan was for the period ending Sept. 1, 2011.

    Also, Dare County records show Jenkins owes delinquent taxes of $3,272.98.

    Jenkins serves on six committees, including the Senate Finance Committee."

    http://www.wral.com/nc-senator-s-property-set-for-foreclosure-sale/12049145/

    Ain't THAT just grand?!?

  • forddp Jan 31, 6:25 p.m.

    Unemployment benefits are immediately pumped back into the economy because the recipients use them for necessities. To remove tens of thousands of consumers from a contracting economy is extremely shortsighted. The result will be more jobs lost, more people on the street and more business failures. It's not clear who, if anyone, will benefit from that.

  • Rebelyell55 Jan 31, 6:25 p.m.

    Them repbulicans taking care of their corp. masters, making those who can lease afford it to pay back the money the goverment wasted. Even after giving business a ride for years at the lower rate, knowing the funds won't there.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 6:13 p.m.

    No Party Affiliate - "Agree, along with many more I know."

    We need a [Like] button here.

    :)

  • Sumo Vita Jan 31, 6:04 p.m.

    "There will be more bankruptcy's, more foreclosures, housing prices will drop with the excess inventory, more homeless, more hungry."

    Dead right. And those responsible for the above will continue to be "surprised" when the unemployment reports come out and their stocks continue to tank.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:55 p.m.

    "'We need to emphasize putting people back to work rather than compensating them for being unemployed,' said Rep. Jeff Collins, R-Nash."

    With the US having lost FOURTEEN MILLION JOBS since 2006/8???

    No doubt about it then, they need to work on bringing some of those jobs back from overseas, heavily taxing companies who take jobs from US citizens to give to overseas companies for no other reason than the workforce can be had for peanuts there.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:52 p.m.

    Sumo Vita - "Nevertheless, it's the GOP that's chosen to fix this mess disproportionately on the backs of the newly laid-off, rather than with those companies that benefited from the lowered UE taxes."

    That I agree with, and I've stated it should be 50/50 or they need to look elsewhere altogether.

  • No Party Affiliate Jan 31, 5:43 p.m.

    "I find it so discouraging to read the comments on WRAL. So often, they are mean-spirited, selfish and ill-informed. I am glad they don't represent the sentiments of most North Carolinians. You people scare me." - cam7002

    "Glad to hear a sane voice out in the darkness." - alicebtoklas

    Agree, along with many more I know.

  • caryzoo Jan 31, 5:30 p.m.

    I feel this is going to bite those folks voting for this hard. That isn't even enough to pay rent for a family of 4. BUT...it could make it better too. People have already been talking about what this means. It will be easier to file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy with less income. Thousands more would be eligible for utility help, rent help, food stamps, medicaid...When I was out of work for 2 years, my 480 a week put my 3 kids and myself only $200 a month over the limits...now I could get 1200-1400 in help just to survive.NEAT! There will be more bankruptcy's, more foreclosures, housing prices will drop with the excess inventory, more homeless, more hungry. Gosh, our state government sure knows how to look out for its people!

  • jlp Jan 31, 5:29 p.m.

    "We need to emphasize putting people back to work rather than compensating them for being unemployed," said Rep. Jeff Collins, R-Nash.

    When do they plan to start? Republicans have held the legislature for 2 years yet NC is among the leaders in nation wide unemployment rates.

  • Sumo Vita Jan 31, 5:29 p.m.

    "The GOP wasn't in the majority in this state when the votes were taken repeatedly to lower the UE Fund.

    It was the Dems who did that, over and over again, setting this state up for this mess."

    Nevertheless, it's the GOP that's chosen to fix this mess disproportionately on the backs of the newly laid-off, rather than with those companies that benefited from the lowered UE taxes.

  • lrfarms27572 Jan 31, 5:13 p.m.

    "i would argue that 2.5 billion is hardly "blood from a turnip"

    In a State the size of NC its not exactly big money either. Its $21 per employee per year for about 5 years.

    Grand Union

    you just said $2.5 billion is not exactly "big money"........

    $2.5 billion isn't worth doing anything about? is that the best arguement you can produce?

    I am trying to talk to someone about money who thinks that $2.5 billion is no big deal....

    ...well excuse me Mr. Buffet!

    (done for the day!)

  • Grand Union Jan 31, 5:13 p.m.

    "Maybe the logic is such that the employer knows the content of the job and the attitudes of the other workers and has a certain responsibility to provide tools and guidance till the employee has had a reasonable training period. You can't just hire an underqualified person and then meh, let them go, they couldn't perform. Well, you can, and then you get to pay for your carelessness. Seems fair."

    employers can lie......I've seen them do it. they have an interest in saying an employee was negligent etc just as much as the employee has an interest in saying they were not.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:09 p.m.

    lrfarms27572 - "what industry?"

    ALL OF THEM!!!

    Have you not heard or read the news since 2007???

    Even hospitals were laying off staff, from doctors to nurses who thought they'd never get laid off, nor should they have.

  • AliceBToklas Jan 31, 5:09 p.m.

    Only in America could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.
    -Sarge

    Please cite your source of information on this.

    The "rich" have most of the money (& income) so they darn well should pay most of the taxes.

  • Grand Union Jan 31, 5:08 p.m.

    Only in America could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all."

    Source? and why only income taxes? and would you rather earn 1 million and pay 500K in taxes or earn 40K and pay 5K in taxes?

    which would be the greater burden?

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:07 p.m.

    Sumo Vita - "I'll tell you what's fair - when at least some of these GOP apologists get laid off, or "optimized", or "RA'd", or whatever the euphemism of the day is - and they quickly realize that flipping burgers won't even begin to pay their COBRA expenses."

    The GOP wasn't in the majority in this state when the votes were taken repeatedly to lower the UE Fund.

    It was the Dems who did that, over and over again, setting this state up for this mess.

  • lrfarms27572 Jan 31, 5:06 p.m.

    Thats bogus. Higher returns take that into account....taxes are only payed on gains and losses are deductible. So unless you are very careless with your investments you make far more money and pay a far lower rate of taxes than if you actually worked for that money. I know, I have investments.

    Grand Union

    Capital gains tax + income tax is lower than just income tax?

    please tell me how this works cause if thats true the gov't has been taking too much from me

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:06 p.m.

    lrfarms27572 - "i would argue that 2.5 billion is hardly "blood from a turnip"

    geez

    It is when the "turnips" you're trying to wring it from DON'T HAVE A JOB!!!

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:05 p.m.

    Sarge - "Only in America could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all."

    I would dearly love to see where you got the 86% from.

    Or is that 86% gross, before they start taking the truckload of deductions?

  • Grand Union Jan 31, 5:04 p.m.

    "i would argue that 2.5 billion is hardly "blood from a turnip"

    In a State the size of NC its not exactly big money either. Its $21 per employee per year for about 5 years.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:04 p.m.

    Morrigan - "You can't just hire an underqualified person and then meh, let them go, they couldn't perform. Well, you can, and then you get to pay for your carelessness. Seems fair."

    You explained it very well. Thank you!

    Few employers with sense would do that though. Don't you think? Unless they were just trying to get rid of that particular employee for some OTHER reason which sometimes happens.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jan 31, 5:02 p.m.

    Sumo Vita - "And I sincerely hope it stings especially hard for any of the unemployed that voted Republican this cycle."

    Yeah, because Bev was so much better???

    NOT!!!

  • Grand Union Jan 31, 5:02 p.m.

    "Tzarist Russia was like that......and the result was the Romneys of the time were put up against a wall and shot. Is that what you want for the USA?
    Grand Union
    not me but from the arguements that you make I would say that you do...."

    Not at all, everyone loses when that happens. Russia is still recovering from that mistake. The West faced the same threat in the 20 and 30s, some turned right and became Fascists(we know how that turned out) and others went for the "new deal" approach.
    Who did the best in the long run?

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