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  • johnny2times Jan 25, 7:34 p.m.

    im sure most people didn't really have to even go out today...so thanks for making the commute for those of us that had to be out a pain in the neck.

  • Hill55 Jan 25, 7:10 p.m.

    Instructions: STAY HOME.

    The Yankees will tell you you can't drive on ice, LISTEN to them.

  • ehart Jan 25, 7:06 p.m.

    " Does nobody have common sense anymore? "
    Common sense is not so common.
    Voltaire.

  • chrisnrali Jan 25, 6:57 p.m.

    I find it amazing that allot of people do not already know these "tips". Does nobody have common sense anymore? Are there that many mindless people roaming the streets? They actually had to tell people that going the posted speed limit on icy roads will reduce your ability to control the vehicle?

  • noblelesliedevotie Jan 25, 6:55 p.m.

    In the old days, we'd get our parent's rear-wheel drive cars out in the snow and do donuts, skids, slides, all kinds of fun stuff. Today we got a couple of inches of sleet/snow/freezing rain. Turned out to be decent storm, certainly enough to justify letting school out early. In any case, I thought this might be a good time to take the kids out, show them how the old pro northerners can handle a car in the snow and give them a shot. Turns out there is only one technique that must be mastered: slow down. My car has all-wheel drive, traction control, anti-lock brakes, and brand new tires. It will not do a donut. It will not slide if I stomp on the brakes even if I am turning. It will not skid unless I'm going *way* faster that even I would want to and it recovers from that pretty quickly. I just want to goose it and have the back end start to slide around so I can steer into pit. It simply will not let that happen. Next time it snows I'm renting a rear-wheel drive car.

  • PanthersFan45 Jan 25, 6:36 p.m.

    The brine does work and it did work where applied. Rain or melted snow/ice will wash the salt off the roads. Vehicles will also remove the salt/brine. Take a look at your vehicle and you will see you have removed some of it if you were driving on the treated roads - Iron Fist

    At least someone on this board knows what they are talking about. The Brine worked, if it didn't you would have had an icy base much sooner. The roads were very slushy at Noon time (I was out in it) and the temperature was in the middle 20's. Plus, I saw numerous people pulling the same stunts they always do on the beltline .... I'll give an example, someone in an Infinity came racing up and basically slammed the brakes while cutting in front of me (I left 1 car length in front) .... they were TOO inconsiderate to drive slower and get in line. My thought: Stay home and take your arrogant attitude w/you, we don't need people like that driving here (Even in good conditions).

  • yukonjohn3 Jan 25, 6:35 p.m.

    Man, I had forgotten what it looked like to see folks drive on icy roads in NC. I feel bad for ya'll and wish you could be experienced without having to live in a place where they have winter driving all winter long. Here we have wrecks during the first snow of the year, but people wise up right away and you don't see so many in the ditch. As I said before, for every mile of road, there are TWO miles of ditches. That is what was told me when I used to drink alot on the dirt roads out of Fairbanks. At least it will be warm tomorrow and most of your ice will melt. We are at 35 below and that is the high for today and are headed for the low 50s below for the next few days. Then warm back up to the mid 30s below. At least ya'll won't have that to deal with too!! Best Wishes from the frozen north!!

  • iron fist Jan 25, 6:21 p.m.

    The brine does work and it did work where applied. Rain or melted snow/ice will wash the salt off the roads. Vehicles will also remove the salt/brine. Take a look at your vehicle and you will see you have removed some of it if you were driving on the treated roads

  • BigSteamnTurd Jan 25, 6:07 p.m.

    Guess that brine stuff didn't work there either. Good to know we're spending those tax dollars correctly.

  • beachlady Jan 25, 6:07 p.m.

    @princess - For what it's worth, I'm glad you cared enough to stay with the kids. I don't care what people think about teachers & school staff. My aunt is a teacher and I have a lot of respect for anyone who teaches. It's often a thankless job. I kept my kids home today - I knew I'd have trouble getting home and I didn't want to have to worry about missing the bus!

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:55 p.m.

    Now all we have to hope for is that there will not be such an accumulation of ice on trees that power outages start popping up. That would not be fun with these low temps.

    I've enjoyed the event from the safety of my home and I wish everyone could have done the same.

  • Phyxius1 Jan 25, 5:54 p.m.

    I grew up watching my Dad 'sashay' on ice and snow and still control the car - and when I got my drivers license I went to an empty parking lot and did all sorts of intentional skids, braking, accelerating to get to 'feel' the physics of it all.
    Nancy

    I grew up where lake effect snow was a daily thing and ice secondary. My Dad taught us to drive that exact same way using empty lots to get the feel of recovering from spins, skids and slides on ice and snow. We used to "Play " around in the lots the same way and really learned to control things as far as you could before you had no way too. Made me learn to drive a bit safer and know what my limits were as well as the cars . Had a few SUV`s pass by me today doing 50 with their hazards on. Good thing as the flashing lights will help the Police find them in the ditch they will end up in..4 wheel drive wont help you in a ice skid anymore than 2wd. I owned a few and they all control the same on ice.

  • mwlral8778 Jan 25, 5:46 p.m.

    "The State Highway Patrol was busy through the afternoon and early evening, answering calls from drivers stranded or those reporting slick spots or collisions freezing rain fell and conditions on the roads got worse."

    The author must have failed basic english in one of our world class public schools.

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:44 p.m.

    "I wish my car had brakes." - bubba

    LOL, drill a couple large holes in the floorboard and Flintstone it :)

  • jedichick Jan 25, 5:42 p.m.

    Nancy, you are a riot! :)

    I hope everyone stays safe and warm.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 5:31 p.m.

    Thanks Nancy. I am mixing a pot now.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 5:21 p.m.

    I wish my car did not have ABS, there are times where I would prefer to control braking.
    Nancy
    January 25, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    I wish my car had brakes.

  • mep Jan 25, 5:20 p.m.

    I wish my car did not have ABS, there are times where I would prefer to control braking.
    Nancy

    No doubt.... my Toyota is mainly a track car I use when conditions are not great, or if I want to save some gas. My Ford Mustang has the ability to turn off the traction control, and give the drive a bit more grip.... ABS is nice, but there are times it can really throw in some unwanted issues on the track.

    BE SAFE OUT THERE!

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:20 p.m.

    "Does anyone have a recipe for Brime to put on my driveway?" - bubba

    Sure do! Here you go:

    Brime; which can be known as Brime Slime or Brown Mucas
    is a word describing the fluid secreted by the elusive creature Yava. - See definition of 'Yava'

    Yava are rare and old creatures which have ansestors that date back to the Crustaceous period. Yava however unlike humans do not have quickly devolping brains, and the Yava have still not caught up with the rapidly developed brain of the human. This explains the sometimes horrific and gruesome actions a Yava can comitt.

    Now, brine, on the other hand can be made like this:

    Take hot water and rock salt in a ratio of 3-to-1. Hot water increases the solubility of the salt and more salt can be dissolved at quicker rate. High concentration of salt in the brine enables better deicing.

    Mix the salt and the water in a bucket and stir the solution with a wood stick to dissolve all the salt in the water.

  • dawgwillhunt Jan 25, 5:17 p.m.

    Jesus take the wheel...

  • offthegrid7165 Jan 25, 5:14 p.m.

    Been here for 47 years and drive in it every chance I get.... ccidents! WHY? Because I respect the conditions and drive accordingly, which usually means, slow, slow, slow.... Then the cow pie for brains that wants to drive 45 or higher... skid into the ditch while trying to pass the smart ones... Here is a hint.. if you're driving faster than everyone around you.. you're an cow pie for brains....

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:12 p.m.

    I wish my car did not have ABS, there are times where I would prefer to control braking.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 5:12 p.m.

    Does anyone have a recipe for Brime to put on my driveway?

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:12 p.m.

    "So, this issue of driving in these conditions is not a north-versus-south issue. It is a crazy-people-on-the-road issue."

    That is the unvarnished truth!

  • Nancy Jan 25, 5:07 p.m.

    "seems a lot of the wrecks they're showing on the news involve SUVs which translates to "oh I can drive in this I have an SUV""

    not to mention the high center of gravity the drivers forget about too - report after report of high incidence of rollover in those. ~sigh~

  • mep Jan 25, 4:57 p.m.

    Well my 86 Toyota spun out (full 360) on hwy 98 about an hour ago near the Wake/Durham line. Hit a nasty patch of ice. Too bad the car is not equipped with all the modern luxuries like.... air bags, ABS, or even cup holders.

    My years of driving in Colorado snow (and God) helped me avoid a couple on coming cars.

    Parked the car... had the spouse come and git me in the Subaru.
    Still slipped a little.... its getting worse.

  • armada08 Jan 25, 4:57 p.m.

    Obviously the brine does not help...it was a good thought anyway.
    Best advice is to stay off the roads, and if you can't, take it slow and easy, with lots of room between you and the guy in front of you, This is from a born and bred yankee!

  • PanthersFan45 Jan 25, 4:56 p.m.

    Hit your brake pedal as hard as you can people. Let the ABS do the thinking for you.

    Robert Larson Never hit your brakes hard on slick roads your car will slide faster then the tires will roll you should not be driving fast enough to need to hit you brakes hard - iron fist

    If there's anything I can't stand during icy/snowy conditions is someone going too fast. If you got an automatic use low gear, if equipped w/auto-stick tap towards the "-" to adjust down, if you have a standard downshift . Try not to RIDE the brakes if possible. On another note, I think the DOT has done a great job out there, I really do ... the Brine worked as well as one could expect, and I saw salt trucks out there doing what they could as the volume of traffic increased. Good Job DOT !!

  • Princess1 Jan 25, 4:52 p.m.

    @tootiefrootie Thank you! I wish all would have been as considerate. Thankfully everyone got home alright. Next time; I may just take a sick day. This is the 3rd time I have had to stay with a student because they either weren't picked up or were brought back to school because a parent was not there to take them off of the bus.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 4:50 p.m.

    Warning: Please be careful handling roadside flares. I now have no eyebrows and the fingers on my left hand are stuck together.
    The cows are getting loose now.

  • Reader X Jan 25, 4:45 p.m.

    Even pure rock salt on my walk way didn't stop the ice from sticking and I put the salt down heavy. I'm sure the brine didn't do a thing.

  • Scubagirl Jan 25, 4:41 p.m.

    it's BRINE, with an N......

    seems a lot of the wrecks they're showing on the news involve SUVs which translates to "oh I can drive in this I have an SUV"

    apparently not.

  • 37 Jan 25, 4:39 p.m.

    Don't do the "brime" if you can't do the time.

  • 37 Jan 25, 4:38 p.m.

    "DOT: Conditions will be bad"

    Well there you have it. News you can turn to.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 4:32 p.m.

    Several of my Southern bread cows have broken lose and have their noses frozen to the road after attempting to lick "brime" from the road.

  • tootiefrootie Jan 25, 4:30 p.m.

    @Princess, the audacity of some parents confound me. Sorry someone was callous towards you and I appreciate all teachers! I kept mine home === no sense in going to school for 3 hours.

  • iron fist Jan 25, 4:30 p.m.

    Hit your brake pedal as hard as you can people. Let the ABS do the thinking for you.

    Robert Larson
    Never hit your brakes hard on slick roads your car will slide faster then the tires will roll you should not be driving fast enough to need to hit you brakes hard

  • chrisnrali Jan 25, 4:30 p.m.

    "let the abs do the thinking for you"? What are you an infant? Keep letting the car do the thinking and driving for you and the only thing to come from it will be more wrecks, more injuries and death.

  • jblake1932 Jan 25, 4:28 p.m.

    Well, I think the brime was a waste of time cause of all the wrecks occurring. Folks can't drive!!

  • sinenomine Jan 25, 4:18 p.m.

    Somebody posted that when they got their driver's license they took the car to a parking lot and produced intentional skids, etc., to learn how to control it in an emergency.

    I did exactly the same thing when I began driving over forty years ago. More recently, in the 1990s sometime, I test drove a car which was equipped with ABS. Tried it out on an icy parking lot with nothing around to see if it worked and was pleased to see it did. When I bought my first ABS equipped car I tried a panic stop on a slick service with it too to see how it reacted (again in a safe area). I want to know how a car works in an emergency before the emergency happens. If you can do so in a safe area I strongly suggest it.

  • djofraleigh Jan 25, 4:15 p.m.

    The brine worked! I only slid when going onto the shoulder after cars in front of me skidded sideways blocking the four lane. I don't know if anyone hit anyone but the cars blocked 70e until police came. That was the only icy place I saw from Garner to east Raleigh.

  • lawha63 Jan 25, 4:14 p.m.

    Just drove from work in RTP to home near Southpointe in Durham. Saw 3 cars in ditches, one on it's side. Also saw plenty of people driving like total fools, passing me while I drove at 20 mph. You get what you deserve....

  • Princess1 Jan 25, 4:14 p.m.

    This teacher had to stay at school an hour and a half after dismissal time so a parent could finally come and pick up her child. For those of you complaining about WCPSS for dismissing early, keep your kids home next time. The district is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Parents will always have a reason to complain. I too had to get home to my kids.

  • sinenomine Jan 25, 4:13 p.m.

    Robert Larson, not everybody has ABS, even in 2013. Your suggestion that people stand on the brakes is fine if you do but accident causing if you don't. I suggest you may wish only to give driving advice to people who you know, and whose cars you know have ABS, rather than spew dangerous ignorance.

    PS - I've got three cars, an '84, an '04, and an '07. Only the '07 has ABS. Believe me I know the difference.

  • jcthai Jan 25, 4:04 p.m.

    lessismore, there you go again proving less is truly less. What were the buses doing on icy roads? Errrrr, trying to get the kids home? The storm started earlier than was predicted. They could have closed the schools, but the forecast was that the storm would start more around 3.

  • rar0831a Jan 25, 3:52 p.m.

    Oh btw your fancy 4WD doesn't work on ice. Just a hint to all those that don't know that...

  • rar0831a Jan 25, 3:51 p.m.

    Love the title upgrade. LOL DOT Conditions will be bad! I am from Northern Wisconsin and when I saw the first large flakes falling I hit the road and went home.

  • rar0831a Jan 25, 3:45 p.m.

    Everyone enjoying the snow cough! I mean ice on the roads. Snowflake patch more like a sheet of ice anywhere in the triangle. Told you all this was going to get worse and it's only the start!

  • Robert Larson Jan 25, 3:45 p.m.

    Pump your brakes? What is this 1978? Hit your brake pedal as hard as you can people. Let the ABS do the thinking for you.

  • bubbba Jan 25, 3:44 p.m.

    Several birds I know to be of Southern Origin have hit snow and ice slick spots while flying thru the air and crashed into my windows.

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