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King of Ignorance Jan 23, 10:31 a.m.
"As a UNC-W grad , I would take an education from a university like Campbell or NC State anyday over the chapel hill institution. jacamoe"
According to the various rankings of national universities, UNC-W and Campbell aren't even listed. NC State is ranked as a second tier university. UNC Chapel Hill is clearly a first tier university. In addition to being ranked much higher academically, it's much harder to gain admission to Carolina than the other schools listed.
Therefore, I can't think of a good reason for someone who was admitted to both Carolina and UNC-W to attend the latter.
I know this is going to sound unbelievable, but my kid who graduated with honors from Carolina did so without cheating, raping or being raped.
jacamoe Jan 22, 12:39 p.m.
What was ONCE a university we were all proud of, has too many straws in recent years on the camels back. UNC is a disgrace in more ways than one. As a UNC-W grad , I would take an education from a university like Campbell or NC State anyday over the chapel hill institution.
mernst Jan 22, 12:31 p.m.
All UNC system schools down play and under report these type incidents! Its treated & seen by the admin as a "learning experience" for the assault victim which is the school's convenient way of keeping it off the records. They are also concerned with potential complaints againist student athletes and will go to any length to protect their athlete. So much for these esteemed places of higher learning and political correctness!
g3 Jan 22, 12:02 p.m.
This story needs a little more context. The former assistant dean of students has alleged that the UNC Counsel's office pressured her to underreport sexual assault cases. So, she is alleging that she was pressured to reduce the number of reported assaults. It's interesting to me that Winston Crisp's name is popping up again. The university confirmed several months ago that Winston Crisp and Matt Kupec "worked together" to create a fundraising job, ultimately filled by Kupec's girlfriend, Tami Hansbrough. The job was funded by Kupec's office but structurally part of Crisp's office to get around nepotism rules. I think it's time that Crisp and his office get a little more scrutiny. I am embarrassed by my state's flagship university.
immaannoid Jan 22, 11:24 a.m.
"She said she spoke with 76 people who claimed to have been sexually assaulted at UNC and noticed a disturbing trend.
"They weren't being believed. They were being told they were making up their mental illnesses. They were told their depression counted as consent," Pino said. "I was hearing stories almost every day, and I was the only one listening to them."
Of the 76, she said, only five reported the assaults to UNC. None, she said, have gotten justice."
Morrigan, you are right, this is a conflicting statement. The first one indicates that all 76 were "not believed", which should mean they reported.
Terkel Jan 22, 10:40 a.m.
"She said she spoke with 76 people who claimed to have been sexually assaulted at UNC...Of the 76, she said, only five reported the assaults to UNC."
YOU go back and read.
carrboroyouth, save it for someone who'll be impressed favorably. I don't choose my words based on your social circle.
heat764 Jan 22, 10:31 a.m.
More scandal at UNC, go ahead and drive a nail in that coffin.
early exit Roy Jan 22, 10:18 a.m.
It appears to me if you reported it nothing was done. BTW, what does the honor court have to do with sexual assault cases? From what I have read it seems the honor court just humiliated them when questioned. That is the problem with universities, they don't want to report things because they will lose some dollars. Also at this university they have a tendacy to try and hide anything that goes on. It is all about perception at unc. I wonder if any athletes were involved?
kermit60 Jan 22, 10:12 a.m.
Is she trying to blame the college for not doing something about assaults that were not reported? Exactly how are they supposed to do something about an assault that no one tells them about. I'm all for vigerously investigating each and every one reported. However, if it is show that the victim lied, gave false testimony, or flat out made the event up (as in the Duke case) they should face the same punnishment as the person accused.
didisaythat Jan 22, 10:01 a.m.
Maybe you should read the story. It said of the 75 only 5 reported the incident. I am sure many more reported to police, but of those reporter to police,I wonder how many were actual rapes? I unfortunately have seen a large number of false reports..so I am skeptical on some reports and statistics.
immaannoid Jan 22, 8:54 a.m.
They reported the assaults. Try reading the article before you comment.
Universities nationwide fudge their crime data all the time. They want the campuses to appear safer than they are.
For example, if a crime were to happen on a sidewalk in front of a university building to a student on the way to class, the university would not include it in their crime statistics because, they would claim, it happened on city/town property and not the university proper. A clear case of fudging the data for their benefit.
Here, if UNC encouraged proper handling of rapes, or of rape complaints, they would have to acknowledge that there may be a crime problem at UNC Chapel Hill because they would have to report the number of rapes/crimes. So, there is an incentive for UNC to discourage such reports.
Tug Boat II Jan 22, 8:31 a.m.
From what I read, I think someone is looking for her 15 minutes of fame and big bucks. If you don't report it, how can anyone do something about it???
didisaythat Jan 22, 8:12 a.m.
How does a university or the police handle an incident, if the victim does not report it? Unfortunately, with so many false reports, there is a level of scrutiny that must be applied, and not just to sexual assaults, but many crimes where there are no witnesses or conflicting evidence.
carrboroyouth Jan 21, 7:50 p.m.
Morrigan, I know her. Please choose your words carefully.
Is unreported rape less devastating or important to look at than those that are reported?
It is estimated that 1 in 4 college-aged women will go through what she did. If you have never experienced something as traumatic and life-changing as rape, I implore you to reserve your judgments.
fds4444 Jan 21, 7:47 p.m.
Why didnt these victims go to the police?
early exit Roy Jan 21, 7:31 p.m.
The university, I should say college, just keeps on giving. What a disgrace to our state.
Uhavenoclu Jan 21, 7:27 p.m.
Seeing the way some if not most students walk and talk and act around not only UNC But the other colleges,this is not surprising the amount of assaults.
clickhere Jan 21, 7:17 p.m.
"We are all working together to make sure that our process for handling these cases is fair, effective and supportive," Crisp said.
Yeah, right. Like most administrators, you're too busy with your own politics to know what is really going on. Enjoy the free paycheck and free ride. It would be nice if someone could do their job instead of mouthing the administrative retoric.
dmccall Jan 21, 7:05 p.m.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12