> Are you really defending a criminal here that pulled out a gun and started shooting at police because they were trying to serve a warrant?

Are you really defending for cops to break in with assault weapons pointed instead of knocking? Is that how YOU would want a warrant served on YOURSELF? Don't say you're innocent and therefore you could never possibly become a suspect. Suspects are presumably innocent.

>If you are a calm person and open the door when asked, they will show you the warrant.

THE COPS BREAK IN, there is no "asking" and "opening". I oppose this policy because it is an initiation of violence.

>> How are you supposed to know they are not just SAYING they have a warrant?

> Soooo, your advice is to open fire first?

No my advice is not to initiate violence. The cops initiated violence if they broke in with rifles pointed. That breaking and entering, and assault with deadly weapons.

> Why don't you become a LEO and walk down a warrant while underfire.

Retaliation against an initiation of violence can be defensible. That is why it is crucial to recognize if the police initiated the violence.

Incidentally I served in the army. But even if I'm not brave, cops are paid to be brave. They used to be brave enough to presume innocence by knocking instead of breaking in. I want to go back to that policy.

Now that I've answered your question are you going to answer mine?

"Since it has been proven by FBI stats that rifles are used in just 3% of violent crime, there is a 97% chance that he was not using a rifle of any kind."

It doesn't work like that.

if someone comes and kicks in your door at 5 in the morning, whats the first thing running through your mind?someone's trying to rob me....as American's we have a right to protect our homes...if this dude had known they were cops he wouldn't have fired at them..sad story..feel even worse for the officers cause they know they didn't follow proper procedure and their hearts are torn...praying for the cops and the deceased man's family..

renaissancemon:How are you supposed to know they are not just SAYING they have a warrant?

Soooo, your advice is to open fire first? Then ask to see the warrant? Here's a thought, step outside the door, and ask the officer to see the warrant. They will show it to you, and in your case, they'll even let you put the handcuffs on yourself!

Again renaissancemon, "It is so cowardly. I want cops who are braver than that"

So I take it you are sooo brave. Why don't you become a LEO and walk down a warrant while underfire. The saddest part is, they actually let people like you vote.

Good job to the law enforement folk's...keep it up.!!!!

Like most criminals he probably didn't think they would shoot back...good job to the law enforcement folks.!!!!

Good for the LEO's. Glad they were not hurt. I am sure the Anti-gunners will make some big deal out of this.

"How are you supposed to know they are not just SAYING they have a warrant? They refuse to let you read it before carrying it out. "

Are you really defending a criminal here that pulled out a gun and started shooting at police because they were trying to serve a warrant?

If you are a calm person and open the door when asked, they will show you the warrant. It is not legal to "defend" yourself against police if they break down your door in the line of duty.

If they did not have a warrant and do this, do you think that a judge would let them out of that? Do you think the SBI would? The SBI has to investigate this shooting. If there was no warrant involved, the department would be in pretty big trouble.

"OK, how many want to bet he was using an assault weapon? Regardless, way to go, Deputies!! More drugs off the street!"

Since it has been proven by FBI stats that rifles are used in just 3% of violent crime, there is a 97% chance that he was not using a rifle of any kind.

But since you said "assault weapon" that would be any kind of "weapon" used to "assault" someone. So maybe you're right.

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