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twatts1000 Jan 24, 2:43 p.m.
goldenosprey Jan 18, 11:33 a.m.
" If those schools open up and succeed, we won't need a bond. Time to starve the beast" -wakehammer
We have privatized healthcare and me get mediocre results at twice the cost. Why not do the same with (to) public education? Starve education.
My tax dollars do not belong in your christian fundamentalist school.
Fun Jan 17, 6:28 p.m.
The folk tell always tell us about new students coming- It's like nobody ever leaves the system or graduates- They are all about building a bigger and biger domain. And inefficient to boot ! The answer is NO
luvstoQ Jan 17, 5:18 p.m.
ALL Elementary and Middle schools SHOULD be year round. This would stop the bickering and choices. I say *NO* to new bonds/taxes until the school board learns our money should be spent wisely. They sure did not gain the confidence of many people when they fired Tata, knowing they were going to have to give him his huge separation pay. And happymom, how many children do you really think *work* on family farms now???? It would be great if more of them did know what working was like! I, too, worked on our family farm (in another state) years ago, missed a lot of school too, but still graduated with honors. Kids are too soft these days. Let the school board *prove* themselves FIRST.
Thought Criminal WS Jan 17, 4:50 p.m.
Tata, and the waste of this board are the reasons why.
WakeHammer Jan 17, 4:29 p.m.
I will vote NO on the bond. The social engineers are back in charge of our schools and I wouldn't trust those lunatics with my lunch money. The republicans weren't much better when they had control. There are a large number of applications in for charter schools in Wake County. If those schools open up and succeed, we won't need a bond. Time to starve the beast.
kimandwill89 Jan 17, 4:09 p.m.
I will vote yes, if the current school board steps down.
injameswetrust2003 Jan 17, 4:06 p.m.
If Kevin Hill resigns, that will secure my "Yes" vote for the bond. I want somebody with leadership skills in that seat.
tony57 Jan 17, 3:59 p.m.
Sutton is a liar. If he'll do it once he'll do it many more times. I will not vote for a bond with this guy as "leader" of a dysfunctional school board.
BlahBlahBlahBlahBlah Jan 17, 3:48 p.m.
Wait and See....Just wait..Your schools are on the very bottom of the totem pole..always have been....always will be..
You actually do not need a 40 story high rise with the executive furniture to teach the children....teachers can adapt to poor buildings...etc..but once you have the overcrowding and large classes...
Fun Jan 17, 3:40 p.m.
NO ! NO ! NO !
weakened back Jan 17, 3:36 p.m.
the wake county school system is nothing more than a money pit. if you're going to ask taxpayers to fund it, then it should be ran like a fortune 500 company instead of a nonprofit organization. need people in charge who are willing to make gut wrenching decisions instead of the feel good decisions.
LKG-Lover Jan 17, 3:11 p.m.
Its time for mandatory year round schools. This will allow fuller use of the limited facilities available and slow the required building. We no longer have a population base in agriculture. I work during the summer and I have no problem with my children going to school during the summer. It would actually be nice to take a Winter or Fall vacation. Besides, I don't trust the disfunctional Wake County School Board. They don't know waht there doing and throwing money at them will not help.
da-doo-doo Jan 17, 3:11 p.m.
Charter schools and vouchers = yes. Bonds = no. 'nuff said...
injameswetrust2003 Jan 17, 2:58 p.m.
I would like a provision stating that a certain Reverend will stay out of school issues, before I vote yes. I probably will vote yes anyway but I'm just saying.
pappybigtuna1 Jan 17, 2:56 p.m.
VOTE "NO" ON THE SCHOOL BOND
westernwake1 Jan 17, 1:15 p.m.
"IF and to me that is a big IF, we need more physical space their are options other than building and if we do build it should be pay as you go and not add more debt servicing." - whatelseisnew
Just as a note. Paying as you go for facilities is more expensive than using a bond and also causes the pace of construction to slow to a crawl. Imagine paying to build your house as you had the money instead of taking out a low interest mortgage; it would probably take 10 years for you to build your house as you pay money each year to complete a little bit more.
Also the cost of leasing space for school facilities is twice the cost you pay for building them via a bond with the added advantage that you own the facility in the long term.
westernwake1 Jan 17, 1:05 p.m.
"On top of that the School board has been using BOND money for operational expenses and THAT should not even be legal let alone allowed to happen." - whatelseisnew
Please point to your evidence that the Wake County School System is using bond money for operational expenses. This would be illegal under state law and someone would have been locked up in prison very quickly for it. The bond money must be spent as outlined in the prospectus for buildings, land, and equipment. The spending of bond money is publicly available information and accounted for down to the last dime.
whatelseisnew Jan 17, 12:39 p.m.
"The most cost effective way to support capital construction is via bonds. I would urge everyone to vote "Yes" on the upcoming school bond proposal."
I will vote NO as I always do. We have too much debt. IF and to me that is a big IF, we need more physical space their are options other than building and if we do build it should be pay as you go and not add more debt servicing. On top of that the School board has been using BOND money for operational expenses and THAT should not even be legal let alone allowed to happen. For the current debt servicing dollars we could build as many as five new schools each and every year. NO MORE DEBT.
whatelseisnew Jan 17, 12:36 p.m.
When the BOND issue comes, vote no. I have never seen this school board offer four options. Show one option with pay as you go and the projected costs and the second option be BORROW money, pay for the construction, land purchase and so on PLUS pay interest to service the debt. this county should seek to eliminate debt not add to it. Third option, PUT trailers on every square inch of usable land area at existing properties. Fourth option, lease space and use as classroom space. This could work especially well for k5-k12 and high school. Plenty of space out there and the county could probably work some cheap deals. Construction costs are only 1 item, thereafter you pay to operate and maintain building, PLUS it takes property off of the tax roles.
westernwake1 Jan 17, 12:24 p.m.
I am not a big fan of the current school board. Members of both parties are not doing what is best for the children but simply focussed on their political agendas.
I am sure that with the involvement of the Wake County Commissioners they will arrive at a reasonable bond proposal that meets the needs of the Wake County school system. Clearly the enrollment is still growing each year and there is a need for more facilities. The most cost effective way to support capital construction is via bonds. I would urge everyone to vote "Yes" on the upcoming school bond proposal.
pappybigtuna1 Jan 17, 12:22 p.m.
As for me, I and my family will VOTE "NO" on THE SCHOOL BOND ISSUE
We are not using what we have, and we want to build more? I want more for my money, this money will be wasted, the school board is good at that
Vote "NO" on the School Bond
btneast Jan 17, 12:20 p.m.
The year-round schedule has too many starts and stops for him to handle since consistency in his schedule is essential.
Hmmm, 9 weeks on, 3 weeeks off....that's pretty consistant? Both of my kids went year round. The 3 weeks they were off, they still went to the school, just the Y came and got them for track out program. Came home on the bus like normal, even on track out. Other than Christmas, 1 week in July and whenever we went on vacation, they went to school, consistantly, week after week. We loved it.
westernwake1 Jan 17, 12:19 p.m.
"I wont vote for another bond issue until they make every school year round."
This also ignores the state laws that high schools can not be year round.
westernwake1 Jan 17, 12:18 p.m.
"I don't care who is on the board I will vote no for this. They really need to think about where they are building new schools and before you approve a new huge subdivision think about the school needs. Ask the developer to invest something into the need of a new school." - ctya
North Carolina courts have ruled against "public facility ordinances" as a impact fee for developers. The local governments can NOT ask a "developer to invest something into the need of a new school".
If you don't like the law then you need to talk to your state legislative representatives about changing it.
ctya Jan 17, 11:52 a.m.
I don't care who is on the board I will vote no for this. They really need to think about where they are building new schools and before you approve a new huge subdivision think about the school needs. Ask the developer to invest something into the need of a new school.
happymom Jan 17, 11:40 a.m.
"I wont vote for another bond issue until they make every school year round."
That won't work. Believe it or not, Wake county still has farming families living in it. As a farm kid myself, I know first-hand that the kids are absolutely necessary on the farm during the growing season. Unless you intend to cover the cost of hiring workers to replace those kids... In our family (this was 20 years ago), the kids made up the entire harvesting operation for our substantial farm- this would mean replacing 11 people. That's a huge added burden on farming families.
Aside from that, year-round doesn't work for every kids. My son has Asperger's Syndrome (a form of autism). The year-round schedule has too many starts and stops for him to handle since consistency in his schedule is essential. 1 in 10 kids is on the autism spectrum and many of these have similar issues. What are you planning to do with the that 10% of the students who can't function effectively in year round?
happymom Jan 17, 11:34 a.m.
"Liberals will always want to spend YOUR money."
That's a mighty big assumption and it's wrong. First, I'm liberal and it's MY money too. Not all liberals are poor. Most of us are highly educated and make very good salaries so we pay our fair share of taxes. It's OUR money we are talking about; not just other peoples.
Second, I don't support loose spending. I'm fairly stingy when it comes to spending in areas that don't seem to need it and the same holds true for the other liberals I know.
goldenosprey Jan 17, 11:28 a.m.
Surely there is a way to ease overcrowding in a way that will please republicans and the childless voters who could not care less about education. Since a bond would increase taxes the GA could authorize a countywide sales tax of 10% on food and childrens clothing and a 20% service tax on pediatrician visits.
Also, we can give tax dollars to under-regulated Christian madrassas in the form of charter schools.
mtnmama Jan 17, 11:19 a.m.
I am a Dem & I won't vote for another school bond until the entire current board is gone. Furthermore, I won't vote for any candidate with ties to special interest groups. Our new guv'na is an example of why.
driverkid3 Jan 17, 9:55 a.m.
Nope, you have to remember, these are the liberals that everyone was griping about when that mess happened with Tata last year. Liberals will always want to spend YOUR money.
NE Raleigh Jan 17, 9:30 a.m.
I will vote No for any school bond as long as the existing School Board remains. In NJ I didn't even who was on the school board and everything was great. This group gets National attention and is as big of embaressment as the White House.
superman Jan 17, 9:01 a.m.
I wont vote for another bond issue until they make every school year round. When schools are vacant and unused for 2 to 3 months it is wasting our tax dollars. They need to utilize what they have before they ask for more. As the Governor said there is no money tree.
Nope Jan 17, 8:45 a.m.
The board is overestimating the future need and ignoring such facts as the application for 14 new charter schools in wake county this year alone.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12