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  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 16, 8:22 a.m.

    Why doesn't the NAACP ever mention the word jobs or work?
    lessismore

    because they want to keep their base's attention, its hard to talk to someone when they are walking away from you because you are telling them things they dont want to hear

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 16, 8:20 a.m.

    Relic, unions are the reason we have a middle class in this country

    Detroit would like a word with you. It took unions and liberals 50 years to kill that city

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 16, 8:19 a.m.

    " I think I'll take the dems' failure over your conservative failure." goldenoshower
    Yah but your failures waste even more of peoples money and you just walk away saying "it's the thought that counts" while you go look for the next money pit

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 16, 8:17 a.m.

    Well, Mr. McCrory can just shovel out another 8% to the poverty stricken just like he did his Republican cabinet members. Glad I didn't vote for Mr. McCrory.
    IPayYouPay

    that's a lot of smug to haul around, how much have you donated to the NAACP?

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 16, 8:16 a.m.

    He looks like he is eating very well so what does he know of poverty?
    mojridingrb

    well to be fair a lot of poor people in other parts of the world want to come to American because all the poor people here are fat.

  • westernwake1 Jan 15, 4:06 p.m.

    "Researchers compared 5,000 Head Start alums with their peers and were shocked to see that the program failed to make a difference" - mep

    Actually you are misrepesenting the research study results. The research found that any educational advantage (i.e. head start) obtained by children enrolled in early education head start programs disappeared by 3rd grade. By third grade children who were in head start and children not in head start were at the same educational testing level, and head start had no impact on their educational development beyond third grade.

  • mojridingrb Jan 15, 3:54 p.m.

    He looks like he is eating very well so what does he know of poverty?

  • IPayYouPay Jan 15, 3:46 p.m.

    Well, Mr. McCrory can just shovel out another 8% to the poverty stricken just like he did his Republican cabinet members. Glad I didn't vote for Mr. McCrory.

  • dare107 Jan 15, 3:38 p.m.

    The only thing this organization is about is self promotion! How does a march promote jobs, wealth or health care? Look at the organization of the NAACP, Rev. Barbour isn't living in proverty, it made Jesse, Jesse Jr, Al Sharpton all make comfortable if not wealthy men! Sharpton $242,000 last year, Jesse Sr. $170,000 per yr. and a $120,000 Travel expense account. Now let's talk about self promotion!!

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 3:27 p.m.

    ncouterbanks we would have less poverty if we were not engorging oil, pharma, energy, petrochemical, Wall Street, health insurance and defense contractors execs' foreign bank accounts on the workingman's dime.

  • stevee2 Jan 15, 3:23 p.m.

    Mr Barber it seems really just wants advancement for a segment of society that he belongs to. He don't give a d--n about anyone else!

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 3:23 p.m.

    Sorry mep, you are wrong and so is your bogus article from the radical right wing Family Research Council.

    The educational, social, health and economic benefits of Head Start are well documented by actual research.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 3:21 p.m.

    "The Middle Ages was a failure too."

    This is absurd. Bad enough the finger-pointer keeps going back 50 years, she's now reaching back to the Middle Ages as proof blacks don't get a fair shake in the US today. Did I say absurd? I meant surreal.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 3:14 p.m.

    I know this is going to disappoint the excuse-makers, but you can work a job and still collect some types of assistance if you show the need, which shows the "min wage won't support me" argument is a lie.

  • Nancy Jan 15, 3:13 p.m.

    National poverty numbers are higher than they have ever been and during the Reagan years, actually decreased. Take a look at the historical data:

    From 1959 - 2011

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/incpovhlth/2011/figure4.pdf

  • Terkel Jan 15, 3:10 p.m.

    "You want to get out of poverty Go to a college or university. You can't attend because they have jacked up tuition and fees to the point you can't afford it."

    I didn't know only blacks were affected by the relationship between income and expense. Let them figure out another way to make a living like everyone else with obstacles.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 3:06 p.m.

    "What Barber does is no different than what Art Pope and the AFP does." golden

    I haven't seen Pope exhibiting complete lack of impulse control in front of the school board. I haven't seen him refuse to vacate same when told to do so. I haven't seen him in jail. He's nothing like Barber.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 3:03 p.m.

    " They are an advocacy group; and they already advocate for police and community engagement; elimination of racial profiling; and sentencing reform." issymayake

    IOW, they talk.

  • ICTrue Jan 15, 3:03 p.m.

    " I think I'll take the dems' failure over your conservative failure."
    goldenosprey

    What about slavery? Another fine liberal program.

  • Nancy Jan 15, 2:55 p.m.

    "We'd have a lot less poverty had we avoided Reagan"

    And yet, looking at the historical poverty charts, during Reagans terms it went down... how do you figure that? What must Carter have done to set that up for Reagan [/sarcasm]

  • Nancy Jan 15, 2:51 p.m.

    And for national poverty rates since the inception of the Great Society Programs of Lyndon Johnson - you can see how little the impact has been for over 7 trillion dollars worth of government 'help'

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/incpovhlth/2011/figure4.pdf

  • ncouterbanks69 Jan 15, 2:50 p.m.

    We'd have a lot less poverty had we avoided Reagan, GWB and their cheerleaders.

    And we would have a lot less if people would get out of bed and get a job instead of living off the working man's dime. Your party is the reason the "war on poverty" was a waste. Instead of teaching people to fish you guys said oh lets feed them. You can twist it how you like but I think you and I both know the reasons. Heck why work when barry will send you a free check every month?

  • Nancy Jan 15, 2:47 p.m.

    According to census data, % of people in poverty in 2004 was 14.6%
    In 2011, that number was 15.4% - I'd say we're losing ground.

    In 1980 (the furthest back for census data on this number) North Carolina rate of poverty was 15.0 percent.

    So much for all the money spent, we're not making any progress at all. Stagnant, like the economy has been for too long.

  • mep Jan 15, 2:40 p.m.

    golden.... Sorry, your wrong. The percentage of poor is the same.

    Math like this article?: For years, liberals have criticized Head Start opponents as unfeeling elitists, when in fact, the most compassionate solution for families may be shutting down the program altogether! It turns out that federally-funded day care--even in the guise of "early childhood education"--is not typically a solution that's beneficial to children or worthwhile for taxpayers. Researchers compared 5,000 Head Start alums with their peers and were shocked to see that the program failed to make a difference (except perhaps negatively) on the kids who were enrolled in the program.

    The war on poverty is a losing one... that is as long as the govt continues to hand out free money in exchange for votes.

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 2:28 p.m.

    How interesting. 50+ years of government programs, trillions of taxpayer dollars wasted, and we still have poverty. I guess the Democrats new deal is a failure. Just more and more people addicted to a government keeping them in poverty.-meeper

    The Middle Ages was a failure too. Religious rule, torture, permanent noble class and massive peasant class, lack of education or disease control. Constant war. I think I'll take the dems' failure over your conservative failure.

    We'd have a lot less poverty had we avoided Reagan, GWB and their cheerleaders.

  • mike275132 Jan 15, 2:17 p.m.

    I wonder how many more people the NAACP will put into poverty ?

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 2:11 p.m.

    "The NAACP says 1.7 million North Carolinians live in poverty, about the same number the state had in 1968.... which follows the national trend. The "war on poverty" has been a total failure, and a waste of hundreds of billions in taxpayer dollars.

    Racist organizations like the NAACP are not helping this either."- mep

    Umm, mep, since we have twice the people as we did in '68 poverty has been cut in half if the number in poverty is the same.

    Maybe we should have demanded more from our math education in this state.

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 2:07 p.m.

    ".represent two things that have been available for generations, one of which has been scorned with a racial slur ("acting white"), and the living wage is something that has to be worked for and earned. "- Morrigan

    SO... black folks and poor folks don't want access to quality education because it is "too white." Do you really think that is the consensus?

    A living wage if often earned but not as often paid. Why do you feel entitled to complain about declining wages and poor access to good schools and the polls and then, when this results in millions of full time workers being unable to support themselves, you complain the state is helping them pay for the basic necessities of life.

    You can complain about one or the other, but when you moan about both it exposes how self-centered and unrealistic your position is.

  • stevee2 Jan 15, 2:05 p.m.

    Ask yourself why poverty is greater in the US now than before our current illustrious leader took office. Oh yeah, it was Bush's fault!

  • issymayake Jan 15, 1:56 p.m.

    issymayake.... That is just it. You never see a press conference about the NAACP marching through SE Raleigh to promote education among low income families. But, let some stupid white guy say the N word and they are all over it. Every time I see the NAACP in the news it is some racial and negative. Never anything positive. Where is the "Advancement" in NAACP? Stop living in the past and thinking you are in chains. Today, any black person can be as successful as they want! Even become President!
    Realthought

    You don't know what I or any other black person thinks.

    By the way, the NAACP is a NATIONAL organization. What they identify as a pressing issue in Raleigh, may not be a pressing issue in Jackson, MS; or Sacramento, CA. And all state directors have the latitude to decide what issue they wish to tackle.

    Now what they cannot control is what media decides to cover.

  • meeper Jan 15, 1:50 p.m.

    How interesting. 50+ years of government programs, trillions of taxpayer dollars wasted, and we still have poverty. I guess the Democrats new deal is a failure. Just more and more people addicted to a government keeping them in poverty.

  • ncouterbanks69 Jan 15, 1:50 p.m.

    Step four don't quit because you can't afford to live and you are too sick to work, your job creator really needs your cheap labor. Step five Enroll in night school, whatever that is or take online courses that nobody cares about and pay a sitter more than you make for so you can go to class.

    If you can not live on a 40 hour per week job maybe the drugs need to stop? Oh and if you can not take classes because you can not afford a sitter.....well why did you not wait to have kids until you could afford it? Excuses excuses. Excuses are easy getting out of bed and working for your wants is tough. Too many choose the easy route.

  • lessismore Jan 15, 1:48 p.m.

    Why doesn't the NAACP ever mention the word jobs or work?

  • faaldecoa Jan 15, 1:48 p.m.

    NAACP is little more than poverty pimps who use their organization that benefits it leadership. They have held back race relations and have trivialized the word Racist where it now means little to the rest of us.

  • Nancy Jan 15, 1:44 p.m.

    "Nancy and lessismore, you need to realize the NAACP, AARP, NRA, AFP and so on are advocacy groups. "

    You missed one key element, they are all groups with agendas. And Barber has to feed the beast to keep it alive, he does it well. What he actually accomplishes that really helps those he "advocates" for is never discussed. Because, there are no accomplishments. It's a money machine, he makes people feel like victims so he can keep his 'job'.

  • readme Jan 15, 1:37 p.m.

    I think it's time for this completely useless organization to go the way of the dodo. Society for ALL will be better off.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 1:35 p.m.

    "Marches don't stop crime. Education, a living wage, the ability to vote on the other hand..." golden

    "...represent two things that have been available for generations, one of which has been scorned with a racial slur ("acting white"), and the living wage is something that has to be worked for and earned. Not demanded."

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 1:28 p.m.

    You want to get out of poverty
    Go to a college or university. You can't attend because they have jacked up tuition and fees to the point you can't afford it.

    Step two- get out of bed before noon. Oh you got up in time to work your 3rd shift job.
    Step three- get a job that pays $7.50/an hour. You have no hope of renting an apartment, buying groceries and clothes, staying warm or buying your own health insurance.
    Step four don't quit because you can't afford to live and you are too sick to work, your job creator really needs your cheap labor.
    Step five Enroll in night school, whatever that is or take online courses that nobody cares about and pay a sitter more than you make for so you can go to class.
    Step six- let private industry take control of your life. They know what is best for you. And vote, but only if you must and can pay the poll tax.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 1:22 p.m.

    "State senator Rucho has a plan to do away with income and corporate tax and replace it by raising taxes on goods and services such as food, clothing, doctor visits, etc. This will disproportionately affect working and middle class NCers. " golden

    I've always liked him since he subpoena'd the head of ESC who gave away the half billion that would have been just too hard to recover, tee hee, so let the taxpayers work it off.

    Anyway, you're right. It would give the working people a break from taxes and allow everyone to control how much tax they pay. Your friendly welfare cheats working under the table while on "disability"; your babymamas with the nails, rims and phones buying steak with EBT; your drug dealers and prostitutes would all pay tax, where they don't now. Welfare isn't income according to current tax law.

    Share the wealth, baby!

  • goldenosprey Jan 15, 1:21 p.m.

    Nancy and lessismore, you need to realize the NAACP, AARP, NRA, AFP and so on are advocacy groups. The names state what they are for, except AFP is for the prosperity of the top 1% only and the NRA is for the benefit of gun manufacturers and to an extent, mentally unstable survivalists.

  • Realthoughts Jan 15, 1:16 p.m.

    issymayake.... That is just it. You never see a press conference about the NAACP marching through SE Raleigh to promote education among low income families. But, let some stupid white guy say the N word and they are all over it. Every time I see the NAACP in the news it is some racial and negative. Never anything positive. Where is the "Advancement" in NAACP? Stop living in the past and thinking you are in chains. Today, any black person can be as successful as they want! Even become President!

  • mep Jan 15, 1:13 p.m.

    The NAACP says 1.7 million North Carolinians live in poverty, about the same number the state had in 1968.... which follows the national trend. The "war on poverty" has been a total failure, and a waste of hundreds of billions in taxpayer dollars.

    Racist organizations like the NAACP are not helping this either.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 1:13 p.m.

    "I know companies that can not fill job positions, basically can not find people who want to work." outdoor

    Or know the basics of work! Show up a little early, be ready to work physically and mentally, be showered and in clean clothes, be pleasant to others, do what the boss tells you without getting in hizzer face with your "rights".

    And then Barber et al cry racial injustice, no living wage, no opportunities, all because of racism and not the guy/gal in the mirror, now give me more free cash.

  • affirmativediversity Jan 15, 1:09 p.m.

    NAACP is just like AARP... per lessismore

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    Is the NAACP hawking insurance now too?

  • goncampn2 Jan 15, 1:07 p.m.

    Hey Bill,the people you are fighting for currently have at their disposal all the opportunities of successs and living a good life. Just like the good folks who get up every day go to work,pay their tax's and provide for their families. So what are you campaigning for more free stuff? You should be telling your peeps to get off their lazy behinds and get a job regardless if it doesn't pay what they think they are worth. It's a job and it provides respect and self worth.

  • ncouterbanks69 Jan 15, 1:07 p.m.

    Step one...GET OUT OF BED BEFORE NOON

    Step two...GET A JOB (even a minimum wage job to a beginning, that's were we all started)

    Step three...Don't quit your job because you think you're worth more...you probably are worth more SO PROVE IT and MOVE UP.

    Step four...enroll in night classes or online courses while you are working...set reasonable goals

    Well said especially the get up before noon part. oh so true. And here is the thing start at a low wage but work hard, don't complain (aka I don't get PAID enough) and you will not be at minimum wage very long. No the world does NOT owe you anything, stop thinking you are owed something and go out and earn it.

  • Terkel Jan 15, 1:05 p.m.

    "No access" = people expect me to pay for what I take.

  • affirmativediversity Jan 15, 1:05 p.m.

    What do you want the NAACP to do, that isn't already being done? They are an advocacy group; and they already advocate for police and community engagement; elimination of racial profiling; and sentencing reform per issymayake

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    Fayetteville is the perfect example of just how the NAACP's advocacy works. The predominately black area of town was riddled with gangs and crime...the NAACP and other "neighborhood" organizations demanded the police step up patrols and provide more protection...so they did...a couple of things happened...first, one of the gang criminals after shooting at a police officer was shot himself and died (oh the nashing of teeth...the protest of police brutality...the calls for criminal charges against the office...ALL UNCALLED FOR)...next, funny enough if you increase by request/demand patrols within a targeted area heavily represented by a demographic chances are YOU'LL TICKET MORE OF THAT DEMOGRAPHIC (this was decried as RACIAL PROFILING)!

  • Realthoughts Jan 15, 1:03 p.m.

    I want the NAACP to stop complaining about what others (agencies,groups and people) aren't doing and take action themselves in the community. I want to see where NAACP is march through the streets of crime ridden communities promoting education, community watch program and denouncing gang and criminal activity. Less complaining and more action!

  • lessismore Jan 15, 12:57 p.m.

    NAACP is just like AARP....They want money. They need to address communities that need to change their lives and get off welfare. But, instead they have meetings with politicians....and in the end, it's all about money for the NAACP....same with unions.

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