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djofraleigh Jan 15, 4:29 p.m.
I've paid two red light tickets and it was just, a half second or not. I support them. watch the cameras in action from the wral cited site;
hpr641 Jan 15, 3:22 p.m.
"Request your court date and have them prove it was you." Uh no, that would be an incorrect assumption. No sir, with RLC's, there is an assumption of guilt, not innocence. Worse, proving innocence can often be a pretty difficult thing to do.
Wiser_now Jan 15, 2:21 p.m.
Let it go, people. The cameras are gone and it will cost more in money and time than it's worth. The courts are already backlogged with more serious cases.
NJDEVILSFANINNCHELL Jan 15, 1:50 p.m.
Red light tickets are the easiest to beat. Think about it. It's just the car & license plate, it can't see who is driving. Request your court date and have them prove it was you. The 9,500 who payed should get nothing for being stupid.
thinkin out loud Jan 15, 12:51 p.m.
SO what is the DOT standard and does it change based on the speed limit? My daughter got one in downtown Raleigh and the form stated the yellow light was 4 seconds.
Relic Jan 15, 12:26 p.m.
Aaaaaand all the fees and costs involved with this idiotic lawsuit are WAAAAAAY more than if these people would have just paid their $50 fine and been done with it, with nothing on their driving records.
So convenience should be more important than due process? I think not. When I can have my lawyer question the "red light camera" in court. I'll agree. Constitutional rights are more important than convenience and a revenue source for Cary.
ThePunisher Jan 15, 12:05 p.m.
make the town pay
mewubbau Jan 15, 11:17 a.m.
ummmm no matter you should not be cutting it that close anyhow---a half second?! really, drivers are just horrible and self-motivated in every turn they make! i know I make mistakes too, but i'll fess up to them. arrrgghh, driving anywhere now is such a hassle mostly because of the actions of others.
NCLivin18 Jan 15, 10:54 a.m.
Stupid law suit. Ceccarelli won, Cary removed the cameras, I guess he's someone who can't let it go. If he wins and receives money from the town of Cary, the tax payers will have to pay. As a Cary Tax Payer, and someone who has had to pay the $50 fine (for my son and husband) I don't want my tax money going to pay for this case.
scot30 Jan 15, 10:24 a.m.
Aaaaaand all the fees and costs involved with this idiotic lawsuit are WAAAAAAY more than if these people would have just paid their $50 fine and been done with it, with nothing on their driving records. Yet another waste of Judicial time and resources in this country that could be spent on more important cases.
tayled Jan 15, 9:44 a.m.
Red light cameras are simply unconstitutional. The reason they are unconstitutional is that they violate the amendment that says when we are accused of a crime, we have the right to have our accuser in front of us in a court of law. You can't do that with a red light camera. Even if you have the evidence in photographic form, the red light camera cannot answer your question. These cameras, wherever they may be, should come down on the basis of their unconstitutionality alone.
Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 15, 8:38 a.m.
limeys -- you are absolutely right in everything you put in your post and I 100% agree with every bit of it. Amber means prepare to stop but so many drivers punch the pedal and run reds all the time. So, so dangerous.
Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 15, 8:26 a.m.
Give it a rest, people. Cary made almost zero, zilch, nada profit from the red light camera use. .02% is what they got for administrative costs. The rest went to the camera company and nearly $700,000 to Wake County Schools. Sorry if the truth doesn't play well with your insane desire to make this into something it isn't, but the facts are the facts. I for one am sorry the cameras are gone. Red light runners are an enormous menace to everyone one on the road or in a crosswalk, believe me.
limeys Jan 15, 8:24 a.m.
In Wake County a high percentage of drivers believe that when a traffic light changes from green to amber it means "put your foot down and go for it or your trip will be delayed by 2 minutes". The amber light actually means you should brake and stop if it is safe to do so.
I witness daily cars blatantly running red lights but now accept that this is just another example (and there are many others) of how bad Wake County drivers are.
cjw6105 Jan 14, 7:15 p.m.
The red light cameras were never about safety. They were about one thing and one thing only- money.
I didn't need a stopwatch to see how much shorter the caution lights were at these intersections. You would start across Walnut Street on a green light at the Crossroads intersection mentioned, and before you could even get halfway across, your light was already red.
westernwake1 Jan 14, 6:57 p.m.
"If it was about safety, they'd still be there."
Maybe not. Collisions increased at nearly all the intersections where they were installed. Rear-end collisions increased greatly.
westernwake1 Jan 14, 6:55 p.m.
"Good grief. The cameras are history. Are we really wasting the court's time over a half-second? Can we stop posting stories about this bunch of whiners with too much time on their hands? The vast majority were guilty, paid the fine, and were more careful the next time." - common tater
This is not a case about 1/2 scond. It is a case about making sure that Cary and every other town never abuses it's citizens again in a for-profit scheme where they deliberately shorten yellow light cycles to grab money illegally from motorists.
This lesson needs to be driven home completely and Cary forced to refund each and every ticket. This will ensure that towns and cities in North Carolina do not implement similar schemes in the future involving red light or speed trap cameras.
notkidding Jan 14, 6:44 p.m.
The red light cameras were never about "safety"; instead, Cary saw them as a revenue source. The projected revenue didn't happen, so they're gone. If it was about safety, they'd still be there.
OpenM1nd Jan 14, 6:38 p.m.
If they are pushing the envelope that close to the margin, they still deserve to be fined. It's easy to blame others for our own mistakes and it takes real character to face the music instead. Slow down next time and yield to the light. Gunning through could cause you to hit someone. Enough already!
oleguy Jan 14, 6:36 p.m.
Cry Babies,, Take down all the lights, and install 4 way stop signs,,,
Sherlock Jan 14, 6:11 p.m.
Hope they win.
Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 14, 6:07 p.m.
Cary saw almost zero revenue from the lights.....look it up. In Cary, Redflex made about $5.7 million from April 2004 to last July, while $646,000 went to the Wake County Public School System, which receives proceeds from the traffic cameras. Cary has kept only 0.02 percent of the ticket revenue for administrative costs.
Whatthehey Jan 14, 5:54 p.m.
Can't believe they let a plaintiff with stake in the outcome testify as an expert, no matter what you think of red light cameras. I miss them, they cut down on runners. If you don't want a ticket, don't run the light - I never got one. In Cary at least, if you thought the ticket was unfair there was an easy appeal process and 95% of time they gave refunds without argument. Why aren't these whiners complaining about the cameras on the new I-540 toll roads? Really think they're better than the ones used at intersections? They don't even take a photo of the actual driver like the Cary cameras' did.
Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Jan 14, 5:50 p.m.
Four seconds can be LONG, depending on the person counting.
Truth Time Jan 14, 5:33 p.m.
.5 seconds? really? get a life..
determined2win Jan 14, 5:30 p.m.
Cary is upset over lost revenues...
common tater Jan 14, 5:29 p.m.
Good grief. The cameras are history. Are we really wasting the court's time over a half-second? Can we stop posting stories about this bunch of whiners with too much time on their hands? The vast majority were guilty, paid the fine, and were more careful the next time.
remer54 Jan 14, 5:18 p.m.
I support yall 100% they should never be used.
bubbba Jan 14, 5:10 p.m.
I think the redlight cameras has about run its time. No pun intended.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03