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passport423 Jan 16, 2:16 p.m.
very nice post, sarahclair63. You have a good heart.
scarlett2 Jan 16, 2:06 p.m.
May God bring peace to these families. What a terrible tragedy. For those being vicious about this accident, just remember one thing...sometimes you get a chance in life to learn from your dumb mistakes, sometimes you don't. We have all, at one time or another, done something so incredibly stupid that could have resulted in our, or someone else's death. Don't forget that. None of us are perfect and we will all continue to make wrong decisions.
sarahclair63 Jan 16, 11:41 a.m.
(continued) Even if these people were drinking, speeding, made poor decisions in light of the weather conditions, or had lapses in judgement regarding the effects of their actions on their children, do they warrant a death sentence for that? When I hear such cruelty from people I can't help but to pity them for truly their words are a reflection of their own bitterness and misery. Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Even if you are not a Christian, this statement has meaning because none of us are without guilt. We should all have the ability to look at this situation with empathy and compassion, and realize that even if they DID sin, they are worthy of forgiveness, as we ALL desire forgiveness and second chances. Realize THAT, and instead of being so horrible offer your sympathy and support. Who do you think you are? Where did you earn the right to be judge, jury, and executioner. I pity you even more than Kathy and the others who died.
sarahclair63 Jan 16, 11:40 a.m.
It breaks my heart to know that people in a small town in the South are just as heartless as the people in the small town in the North where I live. Why must you be so vicious? I just met Kathy and there is every indication that she was a dear woman, a loving wife and a nurturing mother. Based on the idea that 'birds of a feather flock together,' and from all accounts of the other people killed in this accident, they were all decent people. NO ONE deserves to die in an accident like this, in the prime of their lives, leaving behind children and parents and brothers and siblings and neighbors and coworkers who loved, needed, and will miss and mourn them and grieve for the rest of their lives. Whether they were enjoying a night out with friends and had a few drinks while their children were safe at home, probably with a grandparent or a trusted family member, does not matter. None of you are above sin, and in the same way you judge others, you will be judged. (continued)
zariez12 Jan 16, 11:15 a.m.
Well the roads will be a little safer now. I live in the area the crash happened, and it is just ridiculousness how fast people drive! The person driving this car was SELFISH and had no concern for the lives in the car or the people who he shares the road with or houses in the area.
GravyPig Jan 15, 4:53 p.m.
Btneast, you are wasting your words. Anything other than sympathy is being taken as an attack on those who perished. Most people have an ingrained need to explain things. People in mourning have no need for that, especially if it paints their loved ones on a poor light or even suggests that they may have done something wrong. Honestly, anyone who knows the GOLO forums should know better than to expect sunshine and happiness from it's residents.
That being said, my heart goes out to all who knew these folks. It's a shame no matter what the cause was.
passport423 Jan 15, 4:01 p.m.
@IPayYouPay, Judge much? It's easy to say things like that when you are an anonymous poster. Lot's of good parents get babysitters and go out on the weekend. Shame on you for being such a judgemental person.
IPayYouPay Jan 15, 3:52 p.m.
Something wrong with their car? What's wrong with being at home with your children snug in their bed while you're snug in yours at 2:30 a.m. Once my husband and I started having children, they were our happiness and took them everywhere with us, and at home at 2:30 in the morning. Snide remarks? Just reality. I'm sure they were loved and did love; however, that doesn't make them smart and their children have no parents now. Shame.
passport423 Jan 15, 3:48 p.m.
"Come on, just switch rhe car off.....you actually hear this "recording" , or did some one tell you about it?"
I actually heard the recording. Go to youtube and you can find it too. Search on 911 call stuck accelerator. The driver/caller was a highway patrol officer. The 911 operator advises him to turn off the car but he wrecked before he could do it.
Ven Jan 15, 3:34 p.m.
lmookie, jfrye3 and other friends, I don't think anyone is wishing anything 'bad' upon your friends. If this accident had happened at 1:30pm on Sunday afternoon while they were leaving church, the comments might suggest something less ‘hurtful’. But this board is fairly consistent in being judgmental, especially given some of the ‘facts’ that have been shared.
Regardless of what they were doing at that time of night or where they had been, it doesn’t make them ‘bad people’, maybe they made poor decisions. But I say this to you – the next time you read a story on here about any other tragedy, please reflect on this one and show the same respect as you wish others to show.
Terkel Jan 15, 3:28 p.m.
"What does it matter about seatbelts, drinking in driving or driver error?? " sayitoutloud
Greatly, if you'd been in oncoming traffic.
btneast Jan 15, 2:59 p.m.
..I can not believe they intentionally went that wide open in that type of fog..and also they LOVED and CARED ALOT of their KIDS, FAMILY and Friends..
I am sure they did love their kids, but that unfortunately doesn't change the facts. Crash reconstruction analysis is pretty accurate at calculating speeds. IF they had been drinking, even a little, that would affect their perception of how fast they were going. Even the best of people do crazy things at times....fortunately , most of us survive them. IF they had been at the Tiki bar as has been mentioned, that will come out in time in the investigation. Sad...if you are closely connected you would be wise to not read every news story on this, because you will see stuff like this everywhere.
lmookie1995 Jan 15, 2:45 p.m.
Be sure to taste your words before you spit 'em out! The other guy that was a passenger in this crash was my friend. I find it hard to imagine them going that fast just because..... Everyone needs to keep their snide remarks to themselves. These were good people. I honestly think something happened with the car. These people will be missed very much. A loss to everybody that knew and loved them. :(
mewuvbb Jan 15, 2:29 p.m.
I care to differ on the ones saying how uncaring they were by being out at the club at 2 in the morning..is it wrong for ones to enjoy going out with friends where ever you go. Something went wrong with that car, as I do not believe they were driving that fast in a curve at 90 mph...they estimated the speed of the car at 90 , you have to ask yourself, before hitting the tree or afterwards..when you lose control there is no control..Maybe they will check out maybe the car to see if anything was wrong with it..I can not believe they intentionally went that wide open in that type of fog..and also they LOVED and CARED ALOT of their KIDS, FAMILY and Friends..
jfrye3 Jan 15, 2:28 p.m.
First of all let me start by saying that one of the victims was a very dear friend of mine. To those of you that are posting negative comments, shame on you. How dare you be so judgmental of people and circumstances that you know nothing about. I can say that my friend was a very responsible parent and adult. We all make bad choices at times and unfortunately their children will be the ones suffering. So the next time any of you feel the need to say something negative, please refrain, I am glad that all of you are so perfect in your decision making. I only hope none of you have to deal with a tragedy such as this in your lives.
btneast Jan 15, 1:51 p.m.
They and 911 operators were helpless to prevent the crash.
Come on, just switch rhe car off.....you actually hear this "recording" , or did some one tell you about it?
YippiYiyoKiYay Jan 15, 1:20 p.m.
Now 5 children are without parents simply because the parents refused to act like responsible adults. 90 miles an hour? No seat belts? How irresponsible and uncaring.
aetius476 Jan 15, 1:18 p.m.
Driving 90 MPH in the fog at 2:30 in the morning (bars close at 2). Now they were said to have had left a local bar shortly before.
It IS possible drinking was a factor!
So sad, adult couples with children at home taking these risks. Driving after drinking. Now there are 5 children orphaned.
People need to think before they act....
Glass Half Full Jan 15, 1:15 p.m.
First of all, sympathies to the familes of the deceased. Toxicology tests, looking for vehicle malfunctions, all that will be done in due time. These things are needed as part of the overall investigation and they will be needed when lawsuits are brought on behalf of the surviving family members. Wrecks like this can bankrupt families. Once all the fact-finding is complete the attorneys will get busy.
moonpie Jan 15, 1:02 p.m.
WRAL news said this morning that they had just left the Tiki bar....just saying....
DaisyMae Jan 15, 12:10 p.m.
Can't believe some of the tasteless comments people post. Prayers for the families that lost their loved ones.
GravyPig Jan 15, 11:59 a.m.
"Really every accident in this state doesn't mean alcohol."
They have not said it was alcohol related. Any accident investigation typically includes impariment tests. It's standard procedure.
GravyPig Jan 15, 11:57 a.m.
"Also wondering why they would be worried about a toxicology report, the poor victims ignited with the car."
It's a standard part of ANY accident investigation.
Ven Jan 15, 11:23 a.m.
Prayers to the children and families. Now, have to say how amazing it is that so many people are giving them/driver the benefit of the doubt that a malfunction/weather/etc at 2:30am 'could' be the reason...for no other fact than...well I'm not sure. 98% of stories like this usually bring out arm-chair LE proclaiming dui, drugs, t*ugs, etc. Maybe our community and judgment of all people is starting to change, bravo!
Rebelyell55 Jan 15, 11:04 a.m.
That was a very nice guesture that I'm sure the immediate family and very close friends appreciated.
BEACH Jan 15, 10:43 a.m.
Prayers for their children.
passport423 Jan 15, 9:54 a.m.
there is a recording on youtube from a couple of years ago of a 911 call someone made while their accellerator was stuck. I think a family of 4 was killed. They and 911 operators were helpless to prevent the crash. So you really don't know what happened in this case but I would give these four victims the benefit of the doubt. These people seem to be beyond the age where they would be out joyriding.
Ozzie Jan 15, 9:53 a.m.
Prayers for the family and friends involved.
lisa4 Jan 15, 9:40 a.m.
sayitoutloud Jan 15, 9:33 a.m.
There are children that lost parents this weekend. Two of which that are old enough to get online and read these comments. SO if you dont have anything sincere to say, please keep them to yourself. What does it matter about seatbelts, drinking in driving or driver error?? Whats done is done.
Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 15, 8:58 a.m.
and no seat belts........none were wearing seatbelts --- can't blame that on any possible malfunction of the car, I don't think.
sinenomine Jan 15, 8:55 a.m.
The majority of car crashes are caused by drunk driving, "pilot error", weather, or some combination thereof. According to http://www.aa1car.com/library/auto_accident.htm 12% or 13% of all crashes also have an automotive malfunction as a contributing cause, though considering this is an auto repair website I suspect that is far overstated. Other data I have seen suggest malfunctions, other than tires, contribute to no more than around 5% of crashes.
If your accelerator sticks you can shift into neutral, right?
I'm sorry, but the strong probability is that these horrible deaths were due to VERY poor driver judgment.
sinenomine Jan 15, 8:47 a.m.
Come now, speedometer malfunctioning caryzoo? If you can't tell the difference between 55 and 90, friend, it's not your speedometer that's off.
babscash Jan 15, 8:46 a.m.
I am sorry for the families loss.
LibertarianTechie Jan 15, 8:38 a.m.
I highly doubt anyone would drive in the fog at that speed unless something has gone awry. Either something happened with the vehicle or someone was following them. These things need to be investigated.
lisa4 Jan 15, 8:29 a.m.
I agree with you mom2threechld....I hope the check the car out to see if there was a malfuntion. Prayers for their children, family and friends. RIP
mom2threecld Jan 15, 8:16 a.m.
i wonder instead of a toxicology report if they should think about if the car malfuntioned? the way these people were described and the children they had i wonder if they would have voluntarily been driving 90 in the fog? sounds like other issues, car should be investigated. prayers to family and friends so sad
jjsmith1973 Jan 14, 7:50 p.m.
Now they won't be ablse to perform a tox possible b/c of the bodies being burned. They had to get that in the story. Really every accident in this state doesn't mean alcohol. More accidents are caused by other factors, also is tox going to matter in this case?? The poor souls are dead
caryzoo Jan 14, 7:35 p.m.
Prayers to the families involved. I am curious, though, why anyone...ANYONE would be driving 90 mph with the fog that night. I came home and was afraid to leave it was so thick by 8 PM. Was the speedometer off? I am just wondering.I owned an older vehicle with no properly working speedometer, I got it checked every 2 years, so I could calculate if I was okay or not.Cars are not made as well as they used to be.
mewuvbb Jan 14, 5:30 p.m.
there also has been reported issues of throttle sticking on the 2006 Dodge Charger POSSIBLY the reason
mewuvbb Jan 14, 5:19 p.m.
I did not know anyone of the victims, and I do not believe that anyone of them would have been been driving that car that fast, due to the heavy fog, and due to the car exploding when hitting the house, I feel at it was a mechanical failure. Also wondering why they would be worried about a toxicology report, the poor victims ignited with the car. Prayers to the family, and friends of these wonderful people who perished. And especially to their children.
pulstar40 Jan 14, 3:27 p.m.
I was wondering the same thing passport423...stuck accelerator?
North Carolina Cutie Jan 14, 2:58 p.m.
Bubba didn't say anything wrong I don't like riding with anyone that drive fast.
hunt36 Jan 14, 2:16 p.m.
bubba did not say anything out of the way it is bad for all involved but bein mad at the comment he made was not the way of going about it. don't be mad at him he did not drive 90 in a 45
HisLoVe Jan 14, 1:56 p.m.
sad and tradgic for the families. Prayers for all involved. Maybe if people showed emphathy instead of passing judgement, we would have a better world. Just sayin...
passport423 Jan 14, 12:00 p.m.
Perhaps a stuck accelerator?
bubbba Jan 14, 11:48 a.m.
Sorry for all and families involved and I am not trying to start anything but I will say if I am in a car and its going that fast, I will call the cops myself or you better slow down fast.
bubbba Jan 14, 11:46 a.m.
Seatbelts most likely would have made no difference at that speed. And now I know why I couldnt see any skid marks in the yard. The car flipped and rolled and the driver I am sure was already unconcious by the time it hit the house.
kjackson47 Jan 14, 11:39 a.m.
Don't even start. I knew 2 of the people that died and it hurts that their kids lost their parents.
dontprintthis Jan 14, 10:50 a.m.
And hopefully the vigil will include a lesson on the importance of wearing seat belts and driving the speed limit. How senseless for grown adults.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12