NO GUN CHANGES UNTIL Posse Comitatus IS RESTORED! This is the 1835 law that says the us military can not arrest us citizens. They can now.

"we are talking about two separate ordinances." - Paul Parker

Oh, I thought you were talking about that James Whitlock dude. Sorry.

"It is up to an LEO. Apparently some people do not trust a trained LEO to determine if someone is responsibly shooting or just trying to annoy the people around them." - Damien Thorne

I generally trust cops, but enforcement of certain laws is still subjective. They don't always know the law, and some can be downright anti-gun when it comes to civilians. There's plenty of youtube video showing cops hassling people exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

"I think the complaint voiced by the pro-gun people was this line:

"any unreasonably loud or disturbing noise in the county is prohibited and unlawful"

Anti-gun people often consider any type of gunshot to be "unreasonably loud or disturbing". Taken out of context, that kind of ordinance sounds reasonable. But remember it was specifically considered because of a particular guy that neighbors claimed was shooting all the time, in close proximity to houses." Lightfoot3

Most people understand that it is not up to the person complaining about the noise to make that decision. It is up to an LEO. Apparently some people do not trust a trained LEO to determine if someone is responsibly shooting or just trying to annoy the people around them.

I think the complaint voiced by the pro-gun people was this line:

"any unreasonably loud or disturbing noise in the county is prohibited and unlawful" Lightfoot3 January 11, 2013 2:37 p.m.

Lightfoot3, we are talking about two separate ordinances. Please go back and read my post at 2:11pm that you quoted from. I SPECIFICALLY referenced Sec.16-3 ( you can find it at: http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/North%20Carolina/johnstoncounty_nc/codeofordinancescountyofjohnstonnorthcar?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:johnstoncounty_nc ). Sec. 16-3 says absolutely nothing about "any unreasonably loud or disturbing noise in the county is prohibited and unlawful".

"Posted below is the ordinance that Lightfoot3 says restricts his ability to shoot on his property." - Ashen-Shugar

Uh, no, I didn't specify which ordinance, only that there are ordinances that give restrictions. In Wake county for example, we have a 100yard from dwellings or livestock rule. On my street, we have lots from about .5 to .8 acres. Behind us is nothing but swamp, woods, etc. I can't shoot .22short low velocity (i.e. pretty quite rounds) any time, any day, in my backyard unless I have written permission from about 6 different houses. Some are anti-gun, so it ain't gonna happen.

"Yes, Damien, I remember when 16-3 was passed, and I remember there being a lot of complaint that it was an infringement on peoples right to shoot. I never really did understand why there was so much complaint. I am one of the most pro shooting rights people you will ever come across, but I always thought 16-3 was really just common sense (one of the very few laws relating to shooting or firearms that I could actually support)."----Paul Parker

We all went before the board to request that, and it was based on the Sheriff's plea to give him the ability to do something about what he saw as a serious issue but had no legal way to do anything about it. It is a bad thing to be told that the police could not do anything about someone shooting like that until you or someone in your family was shot.

Compare that with what others are posting about it, seems some people are either a bit confused or outright lying about it. Such is life though.

"I never really did understand why there was so much complaint." - Paul Parker

I think the complaint voiced by the pro-gun people was this line:

"any unreasonably loud or disturbing noise in the county is prohibited and unlawful"

Anti-gun people often consider any type of gunshot to be "unreasonably loud or disturbing". Taken out of context, that kind of ordinance sounds reasonable. But remember it was specifically considered because of a particular guy that neighbors claimed was shooting all the time, in close proximity to houses.

In Wake county, one law that restricts our shooting is that we can't be within 100 yards of a dwelling (without their permission). So I can't shoot anything (not even .22short) in my current backyard (though there aren't any houses or development behind me).

Yes, Damien, I remember when 16-3 was passed, and I remember there being a lot of complaint that it was an infringement on peoples right to shoot. I never really did understand why there was so much complaint. I am one of the most pro shooting rights people you will ever come across, but I always thought 16-3 was really just common sense (one of the very few laws relating to shooting or firearms that I could actually support).

I really appreciate the post Paul, I only looked at the pdf. file included in that article and did not verify the information. That one has a lot more detail and information then the one I was party to. It use to be posted on the BoC's website portion, when I did not see it there I grabbed something in error.

I guess the effect is the same though, I will still be blamed as a gun hater and wanting to restrict peoples right to shoot as they choose.

My part in it was basically dealing with section 16-3, the firearms part, but that was done before this ordinance was.

Here is the actual document that was approved by the Board.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2012/08/29/11485171/Noise_Ordinance_Amendment.pdf

Damien Thorne January 11, 2013 1:13 p.m

Actually Damien, that is not the FINAL document approved by the board. The FINAL version removed (d)(6).

You can find the final version of the document at this link: http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/North%20Carolina/johnstoncounty_nc/codeofordinancescountyofjohnstonnorthcar?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:johnstoncounty_nc

It is chapter 12, Article II

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