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  • immaannoid Jan 11, 3:36 p.m.

    The complaints about WCPSS are valid, but at the end of the day, who cares what AdvancED thinks or does? The can do nothing of consequence and have no power over the school system.

  • JDAmbrosio Jan 11, 3:00 p.m.

    WCPSS is a mess. Out with all of them - let's get all new people. They'd probably accomplish more in a week than these bozos could in a year.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 11, 12:19 p.m.

    So you solution if you don't like something is just leave. I rather stay and address the issues.

    Wait to the next Wake school board election and the voters will speak again. The message will be that the voters are tired of the clowns from both parties.
    westernwake1

    Shoot. Was hoping I did not have to hear your whine anymore.

  • cjw6105 Jan 11, 8:58 a.m.

    Until every Wake School Board member has to answer to ALL Wake voters at the ballot box, the bullying and intimidation will likely continue by this oligarchy. It's a textbook case of divide and conquer.

    I'd really like to know why Wake County continues to allow each school board member to be elected by only a small number of the total voters (i.e. the voters in their geographical district only), then buses those students to areas under other board members, whose tenure cannot be voted on by those bused students' parents.

    My neighborhood in Swift Creek caused a ruckus over our continued forced busing to magnet schools in east Raleigh, so the board moved our neighborhoods to a different school district inside the Beltline, one controlled by "Old Raleigh" liberals, who always manage to diversify other areas by busing students from Swift Creek and Garner to faraway areas. I've never seen students from Cameron Village, St. Mary's, Hayes Barton or Boylan Heights bused like this. Why?

  • dwntwnboy2 Jan 11, 8:43 a.m.

    "the voters are tired of the clowns from both parties"- then maybe you should run as non-party representative. That or we need the school board that has rules- like you have to have a child IN the school system- too many wanna be politicians start off their run for higher office at the school board level. Once your kid is out- someone else fills the seat, seems fair enough. Most of the members of the board don't have kids IN the system so their choices don't effect them. If the pain hits close to home, they might not make such drastic choices.

  • dwntwnboy2 Jan 11, 8:39 a.m.

    "The letter cited accusations made by school board member Debra Goldman"- HA! She has quite the track record of "accusations" against board members. If THAT is what they are using to prove their case, they started out on the wrong foot. That woman isn't stable enough to build a house of cards.

  • westernwake1 Jan 10, 7:18 p.m.

    "Why anyone want a bunch of liberal Democrats whose sole agenda is social enginering ..." blah blah - Westerwake1

    'So you want to return to segregation or if not that, then just dismantle public schools right? That's the conservative mantra: give us our way or we'll destroy the system itself. Kinda like how conservatives are planning to destroy the world economy by defaulting on the debt in February. As to educational results, last I saw, WCPSS is nationally ranked. Facts matter.' - Cary Progressive

    National ranked. Yes, Wake County is ranked in test scores just above the 50% national mark. That's a fact. Look it up.

    I just want my children to go to a local neighborhood school and not be forced to change schools EVERY SINGLE YEAR to support a failed diversity policy that provides no educational benefit to the children. You can look up the many studies from Wake County (SAS, etc.) that demonstrate diversity provides no educational benefit. That's a fact. Look them up.

  • westernwake1 Jan 10, 7:11 p.m.

    "Why anyone want a bunch of liberal Democrats whose sole agenda is social enginering ..." blah blah - Westerwake1

    'If you don't like how we do it here in Wake, why don't you move on down the line? The voters here have spoken.' - Mr. Middle of the Road

    So you solution if you don't like something is just leave. I rather stay and address the issues.

    Wait to the next Wake school board election and the voters will speak again. The message will be that the voters are tired of the clowns from both parties.

  • yankee1 Jan 10, 7:08 p.m.

    How sad is it that none of these so-called school board members, and, for that matter, educators, never think about the kids? It's always about ideology, indoctrination, party and in the case of "educators" money? Sickos all!

  • salt of the earth Jan 10, 6:30 p.m.

    "Wake taxpayers group says school board 'making light' of AdvancED complaint"

    I don't know about the school board, but I'm 'making light' of the Wake Taxpayers Association's complaint against the school board.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 10, 5:01 p.m.

    Come on. Like most conservatives (and actually liberals), Wake Taxpayers Association begs to made fun of. They are just funny.

  • jcthai Jan 10, 3:47 p.m.

    Oh so the democratic led school board doesn't want outsiders looking into what's going on? Anyone remember how the Republican led school board last year was seriously considering withdrawing from AdvanceEd rather than let them look into what was going on?

  • goldenosprey Jan 10, 3:41 p.m.

    The reason that Wake County is better than other North Carolina systems is simply demographics (Wake is a wealthy county).-westernwake 1

    What? Wealth matters? Throwing money at it makes results better? Is that why conservatives want less money for education? Are you saying that kids stuck in poor schools get sorrier educations? Interesting.

  • jcthai Jan 10, 3:41 p.m.

    WRAL: THANK YOU for finally not calling Wake County Taxpayers Association a non-partisan organization!

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 10, 3:38 p.m.

    Why anyone want a bunch of liberal Democrats whose sole agenda is social enginering ..." blah blah - Westerwake1

    If you don't like how we do it here in Wake, why don't you move on down the line? The voters here have spoken.

  • djofraleigh Jan 10, 3:03 p.m.

    Wake's school board thinks things are just fine...don't want anyone from the outside looking in...

  • Six String Jan 10, 2:57 p.m.

    I notice that conservatives don't seem to have an agenda except blame someone else. They seem just arrogant enough to think that if you disagree, you must be wrong. The school system did just fine until Republicans started stirring the pot with hatred and overrreaching with their slim majority.

  • notkidding Jan 10, 2:56 p.m.

    "As a parent, I know the quality of education a kid will receive in Wake county is far better than in a lot of conservatively run districts in NC, SC and Mississippi."
    Interesting "peer group" choice - too funny for comment!

  • Cary Progressive Jan 10, 1:54 p.m.

    "The democrats on the school board thought the complaint against the republicans on the school board was important when the NAACP filed the complaint.

    Guess it's not important if Republicans file a complaint against obvious poor behavior against the Democrats when they are backed by the NAACP." - ConservativeVoter

    Seems to me that democrats allowed for continuity of previous decisions, with some tweaks that affected very few students. What's the whine about here?

  • Cary Progressive Jan 10, 1:52 p.m.

    "Why anyone want a bunch of liberal Democrats whose sole agenda is social enginering ..." blah blah - Westerwake1

    So you want to return to segregation or if not that, then just dismantle public schools right? That's the conservative mantra: give us our way or we'll destroy the system itself. Kinda like how conservatives are planning to destroy the world economy by defaulting on the debt in February. As to educational results, last I saw, WCPSS is nationally ranked. Facts matter.

  • westernwake1 Jan 10, 1:38 p.m.

    "If it were up to conservatives, only white male property owners would have educations beyond fourth grade. It has been the "liberals" in charge of public education since its inception. Then, as now, conservative only care about them and theirs. As a parent, I know the quality of education a kid will receive in Wake county is far better than in a lot of conservatively run districts in NC" - goldenosprey

    You do realize that Democrats have a majority on nearly all of the county school boards in North Carolina. The reason that Wake County is better than other North Carolina systems is simply demographics (Wake is a wealthy county). Being better than other counties in North Carolina is meaningless when Wake is in the bottom 15% of school systems in the U.S. with comparable wealth demographics (when comparing test scores).

  • lec02572 Jan 10, 1:35 p.m.

    What a disfunctional group of people the Wake County School Board has become. They care little or nothing about the students, but rather are more concerned about their own agenda. Keep throwing money at bad ideas that have not worked over the past two decades.

  • goldenosprey Jan 10, 12:45 p.m.

    nav2011Raleigh- 40 plus years of liberalism in the schools have dropped the education standard and results in this country. LOOK WHERE BE STAND COMPARED TO OTHER NATIONS!"

    If it were up to conservatives, only white male property owners would have educations beyond fourth grade. It has been the "liberals" in charge of public education since its inception. Then, as now, conservative only care about them and theirs. As a parent, I know the quality of education a kid will receive in Wake county is far better than in a lot of conservatively run districts in NC, SC and Mississippi.

  • ConservativeVoter Jan 10, 12:15 p.m.

    AdvancED doesn't accredit based on student performance in the class room.

    They accredit based on whether the school board is following the liberal agenda of social engineering.

    Last year they wanted to drop Wake County's accreditation because the republicans on the school board was following the liberal agenda of social engineering. They weren't considering the student performance of Wake County schools.

    Yet they accredited Halifax County which the state took over because of extremely poor student performance. Halifax County maintained it's accreditation because it was following the liberal agenda of social engineering.

  • ConservativeVoter Jan 10, 12:10 p.m.

    The democrats on the school board thought the complaint against the republicans on the school board was important when the NAACP filed the complaint.

    Guess it's not important if Republicans file a complaint against obvious poor behavior against the Democrats when they are backed by the NAACP.

  • Cary Progressive Jan 10, 11:55 a.m.

    "The Liberals on this School Board are so very disfunctional! They display how far they (and some voters also) will go to defend themselves and there disfunctional ways!!! 40 plus years of liberalism in the schools have dropped the education standard and results in this country. LOOK WHERE BE STAND COMPARED TO OTHER NATIONS! As Neal Boritz says, liberalism is a mental disease." - nav2011Raleigh

    http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7605793

    Just a quick google shows that your statement to be false. You can't just make up facts and expect not to be called out. WCPSS is ranked nationally, no thanks to conservatives who have tried to dismantle public schools for decades.

  • hp277 Jan 10, 11:20 a.m.

    I'm not sure which is a bigger joke - the AdvancED "accreditation group", or the WCTPA tea bag front group.

    What a complete non-story.

  • westernwake1 Jan 10, 11:13 a.m.

    "Why someone would want a bunch whose agenda includes defunding schools, making conditions worse for teachers and privatizing public education to run the school board is beyond me." - goldenosprey

    Why anyone want a bunch of liberal Democrats whose sole agenda is social enginering via a busing for diversity policy (forcing children to go to a different school every single year), and could care less about educational results is beyond me.

  • nav2011Raleigh Jan 10, 11:07 a.m.

    The Liberals on this School Board are so very disfunctional! They display how far they (and some voters also) will go to defend
    themselves and there disfunctional ways!!! 40 plus years of liberalism in the schools have dropped the education standard and results in this country. LOOK WHERE BE STAND COMPARED TO OTHER NATIONS! As Neal Boritz says, liberalism is a mental disease."

  • schooldoctor Jan 10, 10:25 a.m.

    I agree with "NE Raleigh" about voting by districts, each member should represent every student not just those in their neighborhood. This borders on being racist and I am a white, 69 year old male, I see inequity in the present system. If I had kids I would be working to help get this changed it is too political in it's current state. It would definitely bring about some changes that would benefit more people of all economic classes.

  • goldenosprey Jan 10, 10:07 a.m.

    What a non-story. WCTPA is a hilarious right wing fringe group that typifies the permanent victim class that supports it in the name of selfishness. The accreditation group has influence far disproportionate to its actual relevance.

    Why someone would want a bunch whose agenda includes defunding schools, making conditions worse for teachers and privatizing public education to run the school board is beyond me.

  • MECU0905 Jan 10, 9:54 a.m.

    I don't know if it matter what party controls it, but I do think that those on the Board need to learn to act with the decorum that their position dictates. I am tired of being embarrassed of this school board for their behavior and the county for allowing it to continue.

  • Pseudonym Jan 10, 9:47 a.m.

    It would be easier for me to take AdvancED seriously if they didn't have such a cute little pun name.

  • whatelseisnew Jan 10, 9:17 a.m.

    While I disagree with the board that they have been open and transparent, I do not think much of this so-called accreditation group. In fact, if this group was doing its job properly very few public school systems would be accredited. But since they focus mostly on PC behaviors instead of system performance their blessing or lack thereof is meaningless. Every public system should just ignore these people.

    In the meantime Kevin Hill ought to resign. He lied to the voters about his actual intentions.

  • 4Strikes Jan 10, 9:06 a.m.

    AdvanceED is a joke and irrelevant. The Wake County School Board is also a joke and wake county schools will continue to spin out of control as long as it is run by Democrats. It's too bad that the kids have to suffer because of the stupidity of their parents, who voted them in.

  • NE Raleigh Jan 10, 8:40 a.m.

    The present board should be dismantled and a new board voted in. Eliminate districts,everyone should in Wake County should be able to vote for canddiates of their choice . Being able to vote for only the individual that reoresents your district is part of the problem.

  • bradleystephengreen Jan 10, 8:13 a.m.

    These accreditation organizations are scams that do nothing other than work to continue their own existence. They make up standards based on whatever they want and apply them unevenly to different systems, and for whatever reason, AdvancED doesn't seem as interested in the actual education as they do in the governance and union rights. Our school boards are elected, and while they may not always do the best job, they certainly don't need to answer to this accreditation board. We need to find a new accreditation org that focuses on quality of education above everything else, because that's what matters to colleges, and that's the purpose of accreditation in the first place.

  • westernwake1 Jan 10, 8:07 a.m.

    The earlier complaint to AdvancED from the NAACP was just as absurd as this complaint. However this complaint from the Wake County Taxpayers Association outlines behavior from Democrats which is far worse than the behavior demonstrated by Republicans in the earlier complaint.

    If AdvancED found the earlier complaint to be valid and required governance changes then certainly this complaint should also be found valid --- assuming AdvancED does not operate on a political agenda but on the actual facts.

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