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  • westernwake1 Jan 14, 9:25 a.m.

    "You need to do a little research crime has dropped significantly due to project phoenix...they require managers to get rid of people and have cleaned this town up." - conservatism is right

    This weekend I mapped all the historical crime information for apartment complexes involved in Project Phoenix. I took in account month-by-month reported public crime data for the complexes and the local surrounding communities while marking the date when each complex started their involvement with Project Phoenix.

    I stand corrected. There are decreasing reports of crime in each and every complex since they became involved in Project Phoenix. The drop is not huge, but the crime trend is definitely down.

    I'm a hard statistics type of person (that's what I do for a living). From the data I will have to say that Project Phoenix is effective.

  • liberalmindset Jan 11, 4:36 p.m.

    that wont help stop somebody who really wants to get in...nothing will, not even an alarm...

  • liberalmindset Jan 11, 4:35 p.m.

    will you argue with someone named liberalmindset? I actually agree with him..SMH

  • superman Jan 11, 10:03 a.m.

    You need to secure all doors and windows. Replace the short screws that hold the lock and the door plate. The screws they use is only to keep the lock from falling off. I replaced the screws in my door with 3 1/2 wood screws. It will take more than one kick to kick in the door. I also drilled two holes on each side of the middle of the window. Inserted a nail in the hole on both sides of the window. Also replaced the short screws in the window lock. With a window lock and two screws holding the edge of each window they would have to break the window to enter. Paint the nail heads the same color as the inside of the window. If you really want to get fancy you can cut off the nail so it doesnt stick outside the window frame. You wont notice the nail head when it is painted and the curtain will usually cover it anyway. You should also have a dead bolt lock on every door. With the short screws they use on locks you can lean on the door and get in.

  • Whookneww Jan 11, 8:38 a.m.

    No perfect communities for sure, although what happened in that said below Project Phoenix community was no joke. Enough said. I will not waste my time arguing with some named "Conservatism is right". SMH

  • conservatism is right Jan 10, 7:00 p.m.

    If you are expecting a perfect community with no crime not sure where you can go...

  • conservatism is right Jan 10, 7:00 p.m.

    What happened? One incident...things happen, Im sure they are no longer residents there your point??

  • Whookneww Jan 10, 3:03 p.m.

    Project Phoenix is a joke. Look what just happened in Hidden Oaks a few weeks ago. They are a Project Phoenix community.

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 7:40 p.m.

    You need to do a little research crime has dropped significantly due to project phoenix...they require managers to get rid of people and have cleaned this town up.

  • westernwake1 Jan 9, 7:07 p.m.

    "The grove is no longer section 8 and doesnt cause nearly the amount of problems anymore...project phoenix has done wonders in apartment complexes by kicking out those who dont belong." -conservatism is right

    I live in the Cary Park area.. And No - Project Phoenix has done nothing to clean up the problem. Look at the crime report map. This is the same Cary police department that stood up in our local public meeting and stated that "They would not call the apartment management and demand that people not on the leases be kicked out of apartments" at the Grove. The Grove is still Section 8 because the government tax credits it was funded with require it to be Section 8.

    Of course, former Cary police chief Scott Cunningham was glad to call up the managment of The Grove back in 06/07 and make this demand (which cleared up the problems for two years). But he lived in Cary Park and had a personal stake in the problem.

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 6:48 p.m.

    The grove is no longer section 8 and doesnt cause nearly the amount of problems anymore...project phoenix has done wonders in apartment complexes by kicking out those who dont belong.

  • westernwake1 Jan 9, 6:43 p.m.

    "Cary has bad areas as well, several of them...they are just not as bad as durham or raleigh so they keep the crime on the DL" - conservatism is right

    Most of Cary's bad areas are self-inflicted by the former town council when they demanded that developers put in Section 8 housing. For example, one of the highest crime areas now is in western Cary around The Grove at Cary Park apartment complex (all Section 8). Cary's only recent murder occured there, and the police are regularly called to deal with the property crime and drug dealing that impacts the local community. Many of the Section 8 tenants have off-lease felons from Durham living with them (as evidenced in the murder case where even the apartment manager had a drug dealing felon living with her).

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 6:40 p.m.

    The guy is wearing a hoodie and mask, what good will that do?

  • bdu4dals2 Jan 9, 6:25 p.m.

    Can we try to clean up a photo a bit, then send it out for print??

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 6:11 p.m.

    Cary has bad areas as well, several of them...they are just not as bad as durham or raleigh so they keep the crime on the DL

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 6:04 p.m.

    It was on WRAL site at least a week ago...and the thefts continue.

  • Phyxius1 Jan 9, 5:57 p.m.

    After hearing you talk, I'm actually glad you DON'T live in Cary. I think the community is better for it.
    GravyPig

    No problem on my staying out of Cary. Have 2 new cars and I hear there are a lot of holes on the side of the roads from stolen storm grates. Wouldn't want to damage my tires and rims...
    BTW: Gang is MS-13 and look at the Cary crime reports on it...Sorry you didn't read my other crime post as it was listed in there.

  • jessfwlr Jan 9, 5:51 p.m.

    We were one of the companies that got robbed. Security system ,locks and removing cash didn't stop the break in. Heartless comments for those who don't own or manage a business that was violated simply don't understand. We serve our wonderful community of Morrisville and have alerted every business to protect in new ways. These folks that steal from those that work hard will get caught and they will be replaced and those folks will get caught. Someday I hope they will get a job or care about a business they own and have to spend time protecting it from folks like them.

  • Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 9, 5:50 p.m.

    GravyPig is my new hero......Cary is a great place to live. People who take every opportunity to bash it and those of us who live there are so ill-informed as to what the town and residents are truly like. "batting eyelashes" :o)

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:48 p.m.

    Phyxius, I love a good joke but the "Cary is _______" gets old. You know that "orange you glad I didn't say banana" knock knock joke? Do you still find it funny? I don't. I also don't find other tires played out jokes, even more so when the are at my expense(or my communities expense). I probably came back at you with more vigor than was needed. I imagine you would defend something you cared about with the same fervor.

    Either way, you don't like Cary. And just FYI, it's not a "yacht club" mentality, it's a Polo Pony mentality. We don't have a yacht club in Cary.

  • Rebelyell Jan 9, 5:42 p.m.

    This guy is probably on probation and got out of prison in the last 12 months. If everyone on probation, living in Wake county, that had done B&E or burglary, larceny, etc., was required to come to the jail and furnish alibis we could find out who did it in about one day.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:37 p.m.

    "Touchy....Like I said the Cary residents are the ones most offended as it appears you must be by the response..."

    Well, the ones affected by your poorly chosen comments tend to be offended. It's funny how that happens. You make an offensive comment about a certain group and they get offended. It's how that works. Did you think people from Cary would not be offended by your statement? I imagine if I started dumping on your community or Duke, you might get offended too.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:22 p.m.

    "Crime will continue to rise, especially in cary where all the criminals come because they know thats where the money and goods are..thank the economy for that"

    What an obtuse statement. Cary is where the money is at? You must think that Cary is all golf courses and mansions. You do realize that Oakwood is a well off part of town, Governors club in Chapel Hill is quite affluent with homeowners like Michael Jordan. On Orange Factory Rd in Durham/Bahama area has Treyburn. Those neighborhoods are just as affluent as PARTS of Cary. There are pleny of other areas outside of Cary that have high income residents.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:16 p.m.

    ""I personally don't care for the yacht club mentality of Cary..been there and done that and couldn't leave quick enough. I wont pay to be told what I can do in my daily life.

    Really, the "yacht club mentality"? You have a very odd view of Cary. Sounds like you already biased to hate Cary. I've lived here for 7 years and haven't seen this Yacht club mentality. I know that I am subject to crime and random violence at home in Cary or wherever I go. I was one of the victims of the BB Gun Bandits. I do know that if I have to call Cary PD that they will be there ASAP.

    After hearing you talk, I'm actually glad you DON'T live in Cary. I think the community is better for it.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:13 p.m.

    "Anyplace has crime and some are just more published than the others, Cary has one of the most dangerous gangs around NC in its borders but its kept quite, put it in Durham or Fayetteville and it would be front page news..."

    Wow, that gang is so secret that apparently you can't even name it.

    "Usually the ones that are so quick to defend Cary are also the first to bash other counties on other crime stories."

    Usually? So If I'm from Cary then you just know I'll bash other cities? Interesting.

  • Phyxius1 Jan 9, 5:12 p.m.

    "I wasn't bashing but simply stating the fact that everyone thinks there is NO CRIME in Cary and are so quick to say its the still the safest even with a crime in the headlines."

    Well sir, then you are a liar. Everyone encompasses well, everyone. I never made any of the assertions that you say everyone thinks. I'm sure alot of other people haven't made those statements either.
    GravyPig

    Touchy....Like I said the Cary residents are the ones most offended as it appears you must be by the response...

  • Pepe Silvia Jan 9, 5:12 p.m.

    "report of storm grates being stolen days ago" - conservatism is right

    I missed that article... was that in Cary as well? We had at least three stolen from the parking lot of our office (in Cary) last week.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 5:05 p.m.

    "I wasn't bashing but simply stating the fact that everyone thinks there is NO CRIME in Cary and are so quick to say its the still the safest even with a crime in the headlines."

    Well sir, then you are a liar. Everyone encompasses well, everyone. I never made any of the assertions that you say everyone thinks. I'm sure alot of other people haven't made those statements either.

  • jenjengirl89 Jan 9, 4:33 p.m.

    I'm shocked that nobody has called the perpetrators "back door bandits" yet.

  • jenjengirl89 Jan 9, 4:32 p.m.

    "How is it that we can see minute particles on Mars and on other Planets but we can not get security cameras ....(no more than 4 to 5 feet away) to produce a clear picture."

    Uhm, Goverment/taxpayer funding vs. private business funding?

  • homebrewer Jan 9, 4:28 p.m.

    911 there is somebody pounding on my backdoor

  • BlahBlahBlahBlahBlah Jan 9, 4:26 p.m.

    How is it that we can see minute particles on Mars and on other Planets but we can not get security cameras ....(no more than 4 to 5 feet away) to produce a clear picture.

  • jblake1932 Jan 9, 4:23 p.m.

    I hear ya knocking but ya can't come in!

  • Terkel Jan 9, 4:13 p.m.

    OK, back door pirates: No need to make a song about it!

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 4:05 p.m.

    Killian, that is the best post yet. Thanks for the laugh.

  • GravyPig Jan 9, 4:04 p.m.

    ""And I agree with Phyxius1. If this were Durham the bashing of Durham would already have begun!"

    The bashing has begun......with Physius1's comment. It's OK -- we Cary residents have grown accustomed to the childish and lame comments about things (good or bad) that happen here. Jealousy is such an ugly emotion."

    You know, I didn't care for Cary before I lived there. Now that I do, I understand just how nice it is.

  • the opinion no one asked for Jan 9, 3:39 p.m.

    ha ha they said back door

  • wallywhammy Jan 9, 3:18 p.m.

    Honey?...Have you seen the back door?.... What...wait a inute..somebody...SOMEONE STOLE IT!!!!! What is Cary coming too? OH THE MADNESS!!!!

  • Momma2three Jan 9, 3:15 p.m.

    @enough is enough- LOL! That was a good one. I'm glad I'm sitting down as well.

  • heelsgirl05 Jan 9, 2:56 p.m.

    I swear, people in Cary do not have alot of common sense when it comes to preventing robberies. They are always leaving doors unlocked, too much cash in the register, etc. They may be very book smart but a little lacking on the common sense part!

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2:41 p.m.

    "Why do these expensive security cameras take such grainy pictures when my iphone takes much more decent pictures?"

    Probably because they do it on the cheap. Running 24 hour security footage isn't cheap but honestly, they could get better quality if they wanted to pay for it.

  • Dont playa hate- congratulate Jan 9, 2:38 p.m.

    Its the who what: "It is no secret that Cary is one of the most dangerous towns in NC because the citizens of Cary refuse to look in the mirror and acknowledge that a significant portion of their population would commit a crime. There are reports of violent crime in Cary every week"!

    ..and this comment was even posted AFTER I gave information about the UCR! I'd love to see the examples of how Cary is one of the most dangerous towns in NC. I can show my cards, can you? PER CAPITA, YOU ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE A VICTIM OF VIOLENT CRIME IN CARY IE: MURDER, RAPE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, ETC. This is compared to cities with similar populations. Please, look it up for yourself. Go to the PD and ask for crime information. I would love to know how you justify your comment. The thing is....YOU CANT!!

  • doraellie Jan 9, 2:32 p.m.

    I think it's a tough call for a small business owner, do you go out at night alone to the bank drop box with the day's money or do you lock it up inside and go during the light of day? At least have a good safe if you're going to leave it at night. Wouod exterior lights in the back help or would it give the burgler more light to do his work? Hmmm

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 2:28 p.m.

    Crime will continue to rise, especially in cary where all the criminals come because they know thats where the money and goods are..thank the economy for that.

  • monkeyboy Jan 9, 2:28 p.m.

    "you have got to be joking. Perhaps your statement might have merit in the fact that Cary really should not be a town but is really a city since its population is the 7th highest in NC. Its citizens aren't blind to the fact that crime occurs but it isn't often that the crimes are violent in nature like the murders in Raleigh and Durham." - question_why

    cary's not a city. population plays no role in that. here:

    http://www.nclm.org/resource-center/Pages/How-Municipalities-Work.aspx

  • Phyxius1 Jan 9, 2:27 p.m.

    According to analysis of FBI crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of crime in Cary is 1 in 63. Other rates are lower BUT some are average..Moreover, the rate of property crime in Cary; burglary, larceny ($50 or more), grand theft auto, and arson; is 15 per 1,000 residents. This is about average for all cities and towns in America of all population sizes.
    Violent crimes such as assault, rape, murder and armed robbery happen less often in Cary than in most of America. One's chance of becoming a victim of a violent crime here is one in 1293, which is a violent crime rate of 1 per one thousand inhabitants.
    Its safer BUT NOT CRIME FREE like people try push on the news stories here.
    The extremely violent MS-13 gang has also been shown to be in Cary...

  • conservatism is right Jan 9, 2:24 p.m.

    Yup in Durham or any other big city this would not make the news...

  • jblake1932 Jan 9, 2:23 p.m.

    After some thought, I guess rear entry would be the best method.

  • Phyxius1 Jan 9, 2:10 p.m.

    You beat me to the punch! :-) Any time there's a mention of criminal activity in Cary, the bashers come out. I love it - been a resident for 20 years. Lived in Raleigh for 2 years prior - wouldn't go back.
    DangYankee

    I wasn't bashing but simply stating the fact that everyone thinks there is NO CRIME in Cary and are so quick to say its the still the safest even with a crime in the headlines. It was a sarcastic comment and as usual people got offended about a comment on Cary safety. Anyplace has crime and some are just more published than the others, Cary has one of the most dangerous gangs around NC in its borders but its kept quite, put it in Durham or Fayetteville and it would be front page news...
    Usually the ones that are so quick to defend Cary are also the first to bash other counties on other crime stories. I personally don't care for the yacht club mentality of Cary..been there and done that and couldn't leave quick enough. I wont pay to be told what I can do in my daily life.

  • westernwake1 Jan 9, 2:01 p.m.

    "Its the who what" is trolling again...

    'Cary is one of the most dangerous towns in NC'.... yeah, right.

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