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  • 82d Airborne Jan 17, 12:16 p.m.

    Where are the kids letters about this!
    When will we be told that like Benghazi this was all because of a disguisting video which sparked the violent demonstration from these two great americans!

  • 82d Airborne Jan 17, 12:13 p.m.

    Just dip your 10 rounds in bacon grease!
    Some pork a day keeps the rag heads away and with great results!

  • determined2win Jan 11, 6:05 p.m.

    Nope. Mandatory Death Penalty for gun-related crimes.

    No excuses. No exceptions.

  • determined2win Jan 11, 6:03 p.m.

    These two will be labeled as 'troubled young men' by the Liberal media & the anti-Death Penalty crowd.

    That's fine, as you are entitled to your opinion. So am I.

    Instead of putting them in prison, let them live with a Liberal supporter willing to risk their own lives & those of their family members. Better yet, if there is overwhelming evidence that Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb DID the crime, the Court should rule for Instant Lethal Injection for the perps...

  • qb523 Jan 9, 6:46 p.m.

    I think people who commit violent crimes should be housed in a prison of their own with the only TV being the Weather Channel and Public TV and no others. No library of law books for them to read, only the "classics". If the prisoners want to riot, let them kill each other off.

  • sunshineonmyshoulder Jan 9, 5:00 p.m.

    Putting people who are caught commiting a crime while using a gun in jail for 20 years and having jails be a little less "prisoner-friendly" might not deter that first time offender because most think they'll never get caught...BUT these two things coupled together might deter 2nd and 3rd offenses and that's half the battle in my opinion.

  • davidgnews Jan 9, 5:00 p.m.

    Justice will probably be in short supply for these guys, like most others. There could never be enough.

  • larterl Jan 9, 4:44 p.m.

    Such a devastating crime for this poor couple, sleeping in the sanctity of their home, and such horrible violence against them both. It could have been any of us...I'm disgusted by these horrible excuses for human beings that feel they have the right to take what is not theirs by force. They should be eliminated from society forever.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 9, 4:29 p.m.

    Tougher sentencing is one approach and making prison like it was in the old days with chain gangs, no frills, no tv, no a/c etc...
    bacchianm

    You actually think that is all we have to do to stop the violence? Really? We can prison as harsh as you want and bad guys are still going to steal guns from legal owners and use them. Fat lot of good someone being locked up does the vic of a crime. And if you actually think the threat of jail is a deterient to crime, my naiveity may pale in comparison to yours.

  • anastasia Jan 9, 4:02 p.m.

    Bull. You need to get your head out of the sand, The guns obtained illegally are usually stolen from legal owners. But I agree sentancing in violent crimes needs to match the severity of such crime. No question.
    Mr. Middle of the Road

    Were that statement to be true, Mr. Middle, then there would be no black market trade on guns. It's a well known fact that guns are moved, on a large scale, from states with easy purchase to states with strict laws. Are you naive enough to think all these saturday night specials are legally owned stolen weapons?

  • bacchianm Jan 9, 3:32 p.m.

    I know the vast majority of law abiding citizens who own weapons mean well but those weapons too easily fall into the hands of evil doers.
    Mr. Middle of the Road

    What do you propose then? From your posts you show extreme naivete. The majority of guns the offals use are sold on the black market and across state lines. The reason we have these types of crime is that our justice system has failed as well as our society has failed. We have to ask why 85 percent of the crime in this area stems from 24 percent of the population. And then trying to find a fix. Tougher sentencing is one approach and making prison like it was in the old days with chain gangs, no frills, no tv, no a/c etc...

  • Wolfpack7070 Jan 9, 3:30 p.m.

    Our justice system is great!

  • Sweetgrl3 Jan 9, 3:07 p.m.

    We may not be able to afford to lock them up forever but they should be treated the exact same way as they did others. An eye for an eye.

  • anastasia Jan 9, 1:58 p.m.

    What new gun law would have stopped this crime?

    My proposed 'gun law'. Mandatory minimum 20 years for any gun crime. He'd have still been in prison serving out that mandatory minimum 20 yr. sentence for holding the previous couple at gunpoint.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 9, 1:48 p.m.

    No, it's not "both". Criminals do not get their guns from "law abiding citizens".....they get them illegally most of the time-from other criminals. Law abiding citizens do not relinquish their legally, constitutionally acquired guns to criminals. When anyone serves less that 2 years for kidnapping and grand larceny, then judges and parol boards should be held accountable. How absurd that he only served this small amount of time for such offenses!
    lasm

    Bull. You need to get your head out of the sand, The guns obtained illegally are usually stolen from legal owners. But I agree sentancing in violent crimes needs to match the severity of such crime. No question.

  • Canes Girl Forever Jan 9, 1:09 p.m.

    Throw them UNDER the jailhouse and forget about them. Society has no use for them.

  • JMRal Jan 9, 12:51 p.m.

    This is a tragedy that will affect this family for years, my prayers for them. Some practical suggestions for all:

    1) get a dog or an alarm system (when our dog died we got the GE Choice alarm at Lowes with 2 motion detectors (1 per floor), all wireless for about $60
    2) take a gun course, buy a gun
    3) if you hate guns, get a trained guard dog
    4) you only need enough time to flip off the safety or load a shell once you are awakened, or let your dog go at them. Call 911
    5) if you choose not to protect yourself, you are at someone else's mercy. We can dream and pretend all we want, but there is evil in this world, be prepared.

  • AtALost Jan 9, 11:51 a.m.

    "When anyone serves less that 2 years for kidnapping and grand larceny, then judges and parol boards should be held accountable."

    True. But it all comes down to economics. We can't afford to lock people up forever. That's why homeowners need guns for people like this with no regard for property or life. Had the older brother been killed during the first armed robbery, his younger brother might have chosen a different path. Now we get to pay for their court appointed attorneys and deal with them when they're released. Sadly, we reward criminals for failing...attempted murder should carry the same punishment as murder.

  • lasm Jan 9, 10:57 a.m.

    "In one case, in September 2008, he was accused of holding a couple in Florence County, S.C., at gunpoint morning and stealing their cellphone, credit cards, money and car.
    He was last released from prison there in 2010 and was on probation in North Carolina, according to North Carolina court records."

    "Its both. I know the vast majority of law abiding citizens who own weapons mean well but those weapons too easily fall into the hands of evil doers."

    No, it's not "both". Criminals do not get their guns from "law abiding citizens".....they get them illegally most of the time-from other criminals. Law abiding citizens do not relinquish their legally, constitutionally acquired guns to criminals. When anyone serves less that 2 years for kidnapping and grand larceny, then judges and parol boards should be held accountable. How absurd that he only served this small amount of time for such offenses!

  • chattycat Jan 9, 10:47 a.m.

    Sounds like Jahaad and Shabar should have stayed in SC with all that nonsense. I hope NC makes an example out of these two.

    Lamborghini Mercy

    We could only hope! NC not well know for socking it to the criminals. They will be back at it again before we know it.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 9, 10:24 a.m.

    This is a prime example of the problem we have in this country. It is not guns and its not high capacity magazines and its not law abiding citizens who support the 2nd Amendment. Rather its criminals that continually find themselves back out on the street. The problem is we have no good systems for keeping repeat violent offenders off of the street and out of the homes of law abiding citizens.
    contactbrianmiller

    Its both. I know the vast majority of law abiding citizens who own weapons mean well but those weapons too easily fall into the hands of evil doers.

  • contactbrianmiller Jan 9, 9:53 a.m.

    This is a prime example of the problem we have in this country. It is not guns and its not high capacity magazines and its not law abiding citizens who support the 2nd Amendment. Rather its criminals that continually find themselves back out on the street. The problem is we have no good systems for keeping repeat violent offenders off of the street and out of the homes of law abiding citizens.

  • Lamborghini Mercy Jan 9, 9:30 a.m.

    Sounds like Jahaad and Shabar should have stayed in SC with all that nonsense. I hope NC makes an example out of these two.

  • shortcake53 Jan 9, 9:10 a.m.

    My heartfelt sympathy for what this couple went through, I just cant imagine. As to the perps, I hope and pray you get the absolute maximum punishment and then some. Prayers to the victims.

  • atheistswillserveinhell Jan 9, 8:44 a.m.

    send them to gitmo with the rest of the domestic terrorists

  • veyor Jan 9, 8:20 a.m.

    What a "justice" system we have. BUILD MORE JAILS.

  • pelosi-rulz Jan 9, 8:15 a.m.

    What new gun law would have stopped this crime?

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