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  • goldenosprey Jan 10, 2013

    To Be Human Is wrote "You must be a democrat

    TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE KIDS - and STOP letting politics (mostly Democrats with political agendas) rule the WCPSS board, like has happened for dozens upon dozens of years.

    Even those who don't live in Wake County see that and fully understand the child negligence, in the way of putting children in harm's way awaiting buses in the dark (that never come), that the Democrats have subscribed to in that county, and it's shameful for the entire state."

    Is is actually the hyper-partisan republican school board that made national headlines and political humor shows with its political agenda first- kids last ranting. That is why they were booted in the next election. Those who so desperately want to tack "us vs them" mentality to the school board are the ones responsible for its weaknesses.
    I'm sure there were parents who supported Tata because he was hired to resegregate the schools. That did not make him competent as a superintendent.

  • wildpig777 Jan 9, 2013

    gen ral tata, SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION- big mac's first MAJOR MISTAKE.

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    "I wonder how many hearts he broke over his years of firing people"

    huh? Who'd he fire? If you're going to make the accusation, back it up.

    How does one fire anyone in the military by the way? And as his short term as WCPSS super, he didn't fire people, may have laid off a few as was well overdue given how bloated administration was under Del Burns ("Yes, all 234 administrators are necessary" - that Del Burns)

  • balog Jan 9, 2013

    I wonder how many hearts he broke over his years of firing people

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Jan 9, 2013

    beaupeep - "Well, that makes 26 of you."

    ROFLOL LOL LOL

  • 426X3 Jan 9, 2013

    Wake County School Board. What a JOKE!!!

  • whyalltheproblems Jan 9, 2013

    very true CrewMax.
    Mr. Tata, very, very glad to know you will be serving our state.

  • CrewMax Jan 9, 2013

    Interesting that a couple months before the firing board members were singing his praises. I am tickled that we wil get the benifit of his leadership at the state level. But, we are still afflicted with the clowns that fired him. At least until the next election.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Jan 9, 2013

    birkie74693 - "well over a dozen teachers and a dozen parents who are friends, all think Tata was completely lost in the job, and made things much much worse before he was finally tossed out."

    You're vastly outnumbered!!!

    Hundreds upon hundreds of parents appreciate what he did, and dozens upon dozens of educators - teachers and principals alike who were interviewed during his superintendency, are as well.

    You must be a democrat, and a sour one at that.

    TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE KIDS - and STOP letting politics (mostly Democrats with political agendas) rule the WCPSS board, like has happened for dozens upon dozens of years.

    Even those who don't live in Wake County see that and fully understand the child negligence, in the way of putting children in harm's way awaiting buses in the dark (that never come), that the Democrats have subscribed to in that county, and it's shameful for the entire state.

  • beaupeep Jan 9, 2013

    George Armstrong Tata is probably heartbroken because his incompetence was so brutally exposed during his brief but disastrous reign as supernintendo of the school system. I'm deeply amused by all the people pretending he did a good job; my wife and well over a dozen teachers and a dozen parents who are friends, all think Tata was completely lost in the job, and made things much much worse before he was finally tossed out."
    birkie74693

    Well, that makes 26 of you.

  • birkie74693 Jan 9, 2013

    George Armstrong Tata is probably heartbroken because his incompetence was so brutally exposed during his brief but disastrous reign as supernintendo of the school system. I'm deeply amused by all the people pretending he did a good job; my wife and well over a dozen teachers and a dozen parents who are friends, all think Tata was completely lost in the job, and made things much much worse before he was finally tossed out.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Jan 9, 2013

    Ipayyoupay - "He couldn't fix WCPSS transportation problem."

    No, because the members of WCPSS, mostly the Democrats on that board, set him up to fail by limiting the number of school buses he could run each day.

    If you'll take the time to review what happened AFTER he left, suddenly they approved far more school buses.

    Why did they wait until after they fired him to do that?

    Because he wasn't the first choice of the Democrats on the board to hire in the first place. They wanted another person, but the Republicans outnumbered them and the Republican choice candidate, Tony Tata, was hired.

    That's the underhanded chicanery of what goes on on that board, and it needs to stop, because it's putting children in harm's way, like the children waiting in the dark for school buses that came hours late or never came at all during that time.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Jan 9, 2013

    Relic - "How about addressing the issue with the manager or the contracted "owner" of that office instead of posting it here? You might actually get some changes made."

    FAT CHANCE!!!

    There seem to be many employees working in governmental offices, especially DMV offices, who think they have job security whether they treat their customers (i.e. the people whose taxes write their paychecks) well or not.

    Case in point, since moving to Harnett, I've found an entirely different caliber of employee at all their governmental offices, including the DMV. They're helpful and kind here, not rude and surly like in Wake.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Jan 9, 2013

    Nancy - "~sigh~ another who didn't understand or follow what happened back then. If you take the time to read prior posts you will learn the facts behind that mess and who was responsible and what "staff" did that further mucked it up. Never mind he was not Director of Transportation, never mind that "staff" changed a couple very critical elements after the fact, never mind any of that - just blame him because, well, it's easier."

    AMEN!!!

    He was the political scapegoat of the Democrats on the WCPSS - nothing more, nothing less.

    And those are people who should be making decisions about children without letting politics muddy up the water.

    Next election - vote them out, because they did not let children come first; they placed political agendas first.

  • injameswetrust2003 Jan 9, 2013

    The Crabber had a great interview. I would like for some of those school board members to do an interview with Crabber and might actually get the truth out of them (especially Kevin 'I'd give him an A-" Hill, the king of fibbers)

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    "He couldn't fix WCPSS transportation problem." - Ipayyoupay

    ~sigh~ another who didn't understand or follow what happened back then. If you take the time to read prior posts you will learn the facts behind that mess and who was responsible and what "staff" did that further mucked it up. Never mind he was not Director of Transportation, never mind that "staff" changed a couple very critical elements after the fact, never mind any of that - just blame him because, well, it's easier.

  • pbjbeach Jan 9, 2013

    IN my own personal estimation the politics need to be gotten completely out of the equations an the resson for hiring firing or promontional oppurnity affored to state employee if they have the credential an the experience to go along with the credential an certification that is all that should enter into the equation of wheateht or nor someone is hired or fired or promoted but his is surely not the way thing are within the NCDOT IS ALL BASED ON HOW BIG OR A BACK SIDE KISSER YOU ARE AN HOW willing you are to turning a blind eye to fraud wste an abusive practices of the mangers an upper an exective mangament with in the NCDOT THAT IS IT PURELY AN SIMMPLY THANK YOU

  • Relic Jan 9, 2013

    Oh, BTW, Mr. Tata, please ask the DMV office on Avent Ferry Road in Raleigh to be a little nicer.

    How about addressing the issue with the manager or the contracted "owner" of that office instead of posting it here? You might actually get some changes made.

  • Relic Jan 9, 2013

    "I see it more as Dems seeking to empower teachers"

    The last thing teachers in ANY NC School District need is more "empowerment". The only persons needing "empowerment" are the School Principals who, if we are honest, are the real people that run a school district. Give the principals the authority to lead and hold them accountable for their school's progress. The last thing anyone needs is more whinny teachers complaining about how hard they work and how noble they are and how little they make...blah blah blah.

  • IPayYouPay Jan 9, 2013

    He couldn't fix WCPSS transportation problem...I don't see him fixing this. Oh, BTW, Mr. Tata, please ask the DMV office on Avent Ferry Road in Raleigh to be a little nicer. Spring Forest Road office is simply a fun, wonderful place to go. I drive all the way to North Raleigh for their happy faces. Thank you!

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    I love the posts complaining he's 'not qualified' and yet, if asked of those posters what his history was and what he did in the military, they wouldn't have a clue.

  • healls Jan 9, 2013

    I think it was a travesty for them to fire this man without giving him a chance. Shame on the Wake County School Board! The inmates are running the asylum over there.

    I wish Mr. Tata all the best in his new role. I think he'll do a great job. It's just unfortunate we didn't get to see where he could've lead Wake County Schools, which have been mired in problems for a very long time. I'm so glad my kids are almost done with WCPSS.

    By the way, I'm a native of Raleigh who grew up attending Wake County Schools and had a very good experience. I'm not sure what happened, but somewhere along the way, the system got completely off track!

  • bubbba Jan 9, 2013

    You kidding me?

  • jcthai Jan 9, 2013

    So why run a piece like this? We're supposed to cry for his heartbreak? Gimme a break. The man couldn't work with the new majority so he was fired. End of story. He should move on. Whining like this don't help anyone believe his appointment to the DOT is appropriate or sensible.

  • free2bme Jan 9, 2013

    It is so disheartening that he will be secretary of NC DOT with no experience. He is clearly not qualified for this particular job. I think most of us know that. This is just the "good ole boys club" in action at its finest.

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    Oh, and Hippy Mom? Prior to the interim superintendent approving that stop, Superintendent Del Burns had approved a request in January 2010 for a bus stop for Martin Middle in front of Goldman's address.

    Were you complaining then as well? Or is prior action immune from your angst aimed at Tata?

  • whatelseisnew Jan 9, 2013

    "Bosses tend to "meddle" in one's work related decisions.

    Now his incompetence is unleashed on an entire state.
    Click to view my profile "

    Actually for the first time in decades Tata was having positive impacts on the system. The lefties could not tolerate this improvement so they fired him. They much prefer a failing system so they can try to suck more money out of people's pockets.

  • Uhavenoclu Jan 9, 2013

    Everything happens fopr a reason,stop crying and look where you are now.
    The past is gone you keep thinking of it you will turn to salt.

  • pbjbeach Jan 9, 2013

    I also sincerely hope that he will addrss the useless spending that takes place with in the ncdot as it relates to their purchasing of items that they knowingly purchase with taxpayers dollars of which they have no intentions of ever actually utlizing in the first place. they spend for these item for the sould purpose of noting but the issuing of a contract to provide a business with these kinds of contracts to help business to enhance their bottom line an for no other real reasons but to allow for state contracts to be utlized to act as a method of extractism of state revenues from the state treasuary an the taxpeysr of this stat talk about wasteful spending this is just over the top thank you

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    Hippy Mom - you say Tata approved Goldmans bus stop at her door, but you're wrong. The then interim Superintendent Donna Hargens had approved it in January, before Tata was hired.

  • whatelseisnew Jan 9, 2013

    Yep his firing was done by a bunch of political hacks. Not only did we have to fork over the money to buy out his contract, now we get to pay another 45 thousand so the School Board can pay someone else to find a replacement. Now these same clowns want the taxpayers of Wake County to sink themselves further into debt to build ever more worthless Public School buildings. I hope people are not that stupid, but in the past they have proven they are that stupid by passing these unnecessary bond issues. It is time to reposition things so we do not build any new schools, we also get to close up as many public schools as is possible. Time to give parents some real choice so they can put their kids in a place they can hold accountable.

  • beaupeep Jan 9, 2013

    "Superintendent Tony Tata said Friday, however, that more buses are needed to ensure students are taken to school and returned home in a timely manner.

    “There are no excuses for what happened, and we are committed to fixing the problem,” Tata said in a statement. “If we determine more buses are needed, we will continue to add them until the issue is resolved.”

    Sounds like taking the heat for a subordinate screw-up to me.

  • smiley1637 Jan 9, 2013

    I dont live in Wake County and I was disappointed. Happy for him.

  • Relic Jan 9, 2013

    "I was heartbroken, too."

    If you were a Wake County taxpayer I don't blame you. There was no reason for the BOE not to work with Tata to finish out his contract and then part ways clean. Instead, they had to pay out his salary per his contract (which was BOE approved) and have an interim director that will now be part of an $89,000 "search" for a replacement. Kind of a downer....

  • beaupeep Jan 9, 2013

    "Why is anyone making excuses for Tata? As superintendent the buck stopped at his desk...period. He should have taken full responsibility for the bus problems and all other problematic issues during his tenure. Anything short of this is poor leadership."

    Ummmmm, he did.

    Next?

  • beaupeep Jan 9, 2013

    "isn't it amazing how smart and how much insight retired and ex genrals have? correct me if i'm wrong but gen ral tata has NEVER ONCE TAUGHT IN THE CLASS ROOM RIGHT?"

    What's that got to do with running the district except that he couldn't teach the Board how to do THEIR job?

  • Relic Jan 9, 2013

    Why is anyone making excuses for Tata? I don't see many people making "excuses"?
    "As superintendent the buck stopped at his desk...period. He should have taken full responsibility for the bus problems and all other problematic issues during his tenure."

    He did. Yet none of that was cited in the School Board's reason for firing Tata because Tata was carrying out the Board's directives. And your point is???

  • Nancy Jan 9, 2013

    " He should have taken full responsibility for the bus problems and all other problematic issues during his tenure. Anything short of this is poor leadership."

    And he did, he publicly said as much when the transportation mess fell apart (Don Haydon told him he could make it work). But he was still fired 'without cause'.

  • Jack Flash Jan 9, 2013

    "Tata is part of the ...movement...that believes to get change, you train an proven administrator from other fields and put them into schools. The Dems are going to look for hiring from educators who have come up from the ranks to maintain the status quo..." ~djofraleigh

    While I can appreciated the theory of getting a fresh, outside, creative eye in order to make real changes, it is not a guarantee, and you're selling educators short if all you think of them is that they want to maintain their own comfort at the expense of student learning. It goes both ways: A fresh approach can be great, but so, too, is experience and an insider's knowledge.

    I also don't agree w/ the irony you go on to claim about GOP being liberal and Dems being conservative on this issue. (Though you used the term correctly, which is a start!) I see it more as Dems seeking to empower teachers and the GOP seeking to take that away from them, possibly even to undermine public school.

  • Jack Flash Jan 9, 2013

    This reads like an ad for Tata. I suppose that's appropriate, considering he has every right to tell his side of it and it is a legitimate thing to cover.

    Even his supporters should acknowledge that he was a weird hire for a school superintendent, considering he had no experience specific to education. Call that a surmountable issue or a creative hire, fine, but don't pretend raised eyebrows are unreasonable.

    I also have concerns over what his appt represents for McCrory's administration. I didn't vote for McCrory, but I was impressed w/ his humble victory speech and promise of bipartisanship. For him to then go and appoint Tata -- who again, is undeniably controversial even if you like him -- seems to be contrary to that idea. It seems suspiciously like he's thumbing his nose at opposition.

  • driverkid3 Jan 9, 2013

    Grand Union::::The State might want to be at the bottom of education spending but I doubt that's where Wake County wants to be.

    As long as Wake County has nothing but democrats on the board, that's where they will be....right at the bottom of the pit.

  • dmccall Jan 9, 2013

    I was heartbroken, too.

  • driverkid3 Jan 9, 2013

    jacksun::::Wow, talk about on the job training for the man selected to run the department.

    Are you talking about obama? I thought this was about NC politics.

  • robbyh Jan 9, 2013

    wildpig777..He didn't go to school to be a teacher just like teachers didn't go to school to do his job.

  • junk999 Jan 9, 2013

    "Give him AND Gov. McCrory a chance!"

    Oh, they'll have a chance. Our #1 job is to make sure it's a one term chance. Sound familiar?

  • Hippy_mom Jan 9, 2013

    I'm still not happy that he approved a bus stop five miles from the nearest stop specifically for Debra Goldman's daughter. FIVE miles away and at her doorstep. Our bus didn't show for days at the beginning of this year. If kids can't get to school, they can't learn. And if parents have to leave work to drive their kids to school, employers aren't always understanding.

    Additionally, when Goldman's daughter left Martin Middle School mid-year, he said Goldman's daughter deserved to go to a good school. Ouch! Of course, we were told the comment was taken out of context...

  • baldchip Jan 9, 2013

    Geosol-let's see how he does!! Mr Tata might just surprise you and all of your lefty friends. DOT could certainly use some transparency for a change.

    I have friends that work there-and attitudes are improving about working for the tax payers. What we really need to do is keep legislators from deciding what projects are done or not done(inveribly-Legislators pussing projects have a vested interest in that project).

    Mr Tata might just surprise you libs. Give him AND Gov. McCrory a chance!

  • goldenosprey Jan 9, 2013

    In other words, the Democrats could not meddle in every decision he made, so they let him go! Wake County's lose is the State's gain!- realityfinality

    Bosses tend to "meddle" in one's work related decisions.

    Now his incompetence is unleashed on an entire state.

  • rlee1117 Jan 9, 2013

    Has Mr Sutton ever taught in public schools or been a chair on a school board before? I rest my case!

  • LovemyPirates Jan 9, 2013

    Why is anyone making excuses for Tata? As superintendent the buck stopped at his desk...period. He should have taken full responsibility for the bus problems and all other problematic issues during his tenure. Anything short of this is poor leadership.

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