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  • ltbarkley Jan 9, 7:25 p.m.

    The ar15 was brand new and still in the box. Interesting that detail has
    Changed. Hard to see how that was a threat. I can't say I blame this guy for having the handguns in his locker but at the same time it is illegal.

    I also bet it was a coworker that wanted him out of the way and did it for spite.

  • whatelseisnew Jan 8, 6:39 p.m.

    "Unless you're a law officer you can't have guns on a school or college campus in NC. At all. None. Nunca. Nada. It's the law. "

    So? The Feds and the State choose to not enforce lots of laws. What is so special about this law?

  • whatelseisnew Jan 8, 6:37 p.m.

    COmplete nonsense. We need to be rid of these Gun-free zones immediately.

  • Relic Jan 8, 5:35 p.m.

    Unless you're a law officer you can't have guns on a school or college campus in NC. At all. None. Nunca. Nada. It's the law. You know, one of those "current gun laws" that "we should enforce" rather than making "new laws"? He broke them. He's arrested. Next story...

  • WageSlave Jan 8, 5:17 p.m.

    More context please! Is the man an employee of NCSU? Was he there in his work truck with animal? That would explain two axes. The gun was unloaded. Was this sinister or just happen stance?
    djofraleigh

    Yea he did all of the Necropsy for the vet school. The Tacoma is his personal vehicle. With exception of the AR, the things he has in his truck are no different than a lot of the things people carry in their trucks. He just was foolish enough to get caught on campus with them.

  • djofraleigh Jan 8, 4:52 p.m.

    More context please! Is the man an employee of NCSU? Was he there in his work truck with animal? That would explain two axes. The gun was unloaded. Was this sinister or just happen stance?

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 4:36 p.m.

    trianglerelic that is all great and people should be able to own AR-15's, but there is no reason to have an AR at work along with 2 other handguns. Especially not on school grounds that do not allow firearms.

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 4:27 p.m.

    Allegations??? I guess when it comes to guns, you are guilty until proven innocent.-Crew Dog

    Umm the guy was found with 3 firearms and 3 other weapons in his possession, he will not be guilty of the charges until he goes to court. I don't know how he isn't guilty since the guns were his, in his possession on property that does not allow firearms or weapons.

  • Nope Jan 8, 4:22 p.m.

    "Read the Dick act of 1902,where you'll learn that it specifies every able bodied man as the unorganized militia. You always argue against the second amendment but fail to realize this clarifies it."

    Yes, and if you read the act (really the Militia Act of 1903) you will see that the second amendment applies to the well-regulated militia (not the unorganized militia) which is defined by the act as the National Guard: "SEC. 3. That the regularly enlisted, organized, and uniformed active militia in the several States and Territories and the District of Columbia who have heretofore participated or shall hereafter participate in the apportionment of the annual appropriation provided by section sixteen hundred and sixty‐one of the Revised Statutes of the United States, as amended, whether known and designated as National Guard, militia, or otherwise, shall constitute the organized militia." The aim of the Militia act is to give the president the control of the National Guard.

  • WageSlave Jan 8, 4:09 p.m.

    Do I also need a license and permits for the howitzer I am planning on installing in my front yard?
    piene2

    You can never be to safe right?

  • trianglerelic Jan 8, 3:56 p.m.

    People want AR style rifles because 1) Low recoil. Practically anyone can handle the manageable recoil. 2) Light weight and compact makes they comfortable for shooters of all sizes. 3) Adjustable stocks make it super comfortable to fire. 4) Highly accurate thanks to high quality barrels, often lined with high-tech alloys. Barrels are easily changed to meet different shooting requirements. 5) Availability of accessories. You can buy and mount practically every imaginable accessory including but not limited to laser pointers, lights, bipods, slings, hand grips, extra ammunition, the list just goes on and on. 6) Availability of sights and optics. You can easily buy practically every combination of sights, scopes, red dot, holographic. Even people with very poor vision can find an optic or sight combination that will work with their eyes. 7) Available in multiple calibers with ammunition being inexpensive and readily available. 8) They look ultra modern and are collectable

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 3:35 p.m.

    Do I also need a license and permits for the howitzer I am planning on installing in my front yard?
    piene2

    If it's a working one you do- and the paperwork is a lot tougher than for a machine gun!

  • AFSC426X3 Jan 8, 3:34 p.m.

    Allegations??? I guess when it comes to guns, you are guilty until proven innocent.

  • Worland Jan 8, 3:01 p.m.

    The NRA has a defense fund because the ATF likes to break down law abiding citizen's doors, confiscate all their belongings, throw them into jail, and keep them in court for 10 yrs until a judge finally drops the charges because the ATF had no evidence a crime was ever committed.

    And the ATF likes to change their mind about imports, after the fact. At least a dozen times, they've approved import permits for gun parts, the importer complies with all ATF regulations, the parts are legally sold, then five years later the ATF decides some washer in the parts kit is now a machinegun and wants sales records, credit card records, and to confiscate said evil washer.

    You also have family members of shooting victims who sue gun show operators, even though the bad guy didn't get his gun at a gun show, ever been to a gun show, or was even in the same state. That's why the NRA has a defense fund.

  • ImtheBadGuy Jan 8, 2:54 p.m.

    Let me lay some things out for the gun control people.Who needs an AR-15?Read the Dick act of 1902,where you'll learn that it specifies every able bodied man as the unorganized militia. You always argue against the second amendment but fail to realize this clarifies it.

    We also have cops on college campuses to watch 21 year olds.But when it comes to placing only one in an elementary school to protect kindergarteners you somehow act as if there is a logical argument against that.

    I am also not going to be able to sit here all day and answer everybody that puts what I said in quotation marks,I have other things to do.

  • piene2 Jan 8, 2:31 p.m.

    "I am going to get a machine gun that I can carry around in a violin case. I hunt multiple wood chucks. piene2

    I would not put it in a violin case. Need to have it easy to get to because those wood chucks are pretty quick. Also, make you have your license and permits in good standing order. I would hate for you to get in trouble.

    Have fun!
    WageSlave"

    Do I also need a license and permits for the howitzer I am planning on installing in my front yard?

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 2:16 p.m.

    Once again, show me a tangible victim. No victim, no crime- htomc42

    That's not actually how laws work here.

    Crimes don't require victims.

    I mean, you can make up your own version of the universe, but don't expect anyone else, especially the police and courts, to follow it.

  • dukefan101 Jan 8, 2:11 p.m.

    Show me a tangible victim? Really? So according to what you say, we should do nothing but sit back and WAIT until there IS a victim? Wow!

  • htomc42 Jan 8, 1:42 p.m.

    >htomc42 would you be saying the same thing if this was on the >grounds of a middle school or elementary school?

    Once again, show me a tangible victim. No victim, no crime. I realize that many actions violate any number of legislative "laws"- of which we have untold thousands. The problem is the law itself no longer represents right versus wrong- and is instead full of agenda-driven dictates. As an exercise, look up "malum in se" versus "malum prohibitum".

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 12:54 p.m.

    junkmail5 that is the only thing you have said so far that I can actually agree with.

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 12:35 p.m.

    That's absolutely right- no crime. Can you point to a single person whose life, liberty, or property were violated by his actions?- htomc42

    Many things are crimes which do not deprive a person of life, liberty, or property.

    It's illegal for me to drive a car without a drivers license on public roads, even if I do so safely, in accordance with all traffic laws, with a car I legally own... to cite one of thousands of examples.

  • wolfpack32 Jan 8, 12:30 p.m.

    I can understand gun advocates arguing some things - but defending this guy? Seriously? Did he really need the AR-15 for "defense." How about the axes? Plus, whether you agree with it or not, guns are not allowed on campus. He broke the law, so now he has to pay for it.

  • Bill Brasky Jan 8, 12:24 p.m.

    "Well he would have been even more embarrassed if the story had said they found a pink AR15 in his car would'nt he!"

    I remember seeing on Pawn Stars (Reality Show) a guy selling a golden M16. I believe they said that it was strickly for show, and it was to commemorate the Gulf War.

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 12:23 p.m.

    htomc42 would you be saying the same thing if this was on the grounds of a middle school or elementary school? It is a crime if you violate the laws of a gun-free zone. Just as if he would have carried 3 firearms into an elementary school, it is a crime.

  • htomc42 Jan 8, 12:16 p.m.

    >No crime?

    That's absolutely right- no crime. Can you point to a single person whose life, liberty, or property were violated by his actions? What is the essential difference between him possessing these weapons on the NCSU campus, versus any random government-built road?

  • redapace Jan 8, 12:07 p.m.

    " "What other color is there besides camouflage for the red necks? Are they making pink ones for the ladies yet?" @Earth Brooks... Sadly, the answer is yes."

    Well he would have been even more embarrassed if the story had said they found a pink AR15 in his car would'nt he!

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 11:51 a.m.

    junkmail5- I said nothing about debating on psychics. I was telling you what actually happened while you were trying to debate me on your opinion. I apologize for providing you with facts while you were basing your argument on speculation and opinions. I was actually providing you with information from the actually incident, not what the media provided. Of course I do not know his motive because he has not said, but the fact remains that he did break down once he was caught by the campus police.

  • WageSlave Jan 8, 11:33 a.m.

    junkmail5- It was obviously just a conspiracy to get this man fired. He didn't know the guns were there, so they had to be planted by the university.
    Jonny 2nuts

    Nah, when I worked there there were 2 cases where someone would call the law because they knew someone else had a pistol in thier truck, usually because they were having an argument over something so the person wanted to get them gone.

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 11:22 a.m.

    junkmail5 I am not "inventing" those things because I know first hand what happened. You are reading what was written in a news article- Johny2nuts

    Because that's the information available.

    I wasn't aware you wished to debate with psychics.

    Based on AVAILABLE INFORMATION at the time there was no way to ascribe any specific motive to him at all, good or bad.

    I agreed he'd broken the law and ought be punished accordingly.

    I simply disagreed that there was any way to ascribe motive based on the published information.

    Sorry if you were unclear on any of this.

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 11:18 a.m.

    junkmail5- It was obviously just a conspiracy to get this man fired. He didn't know the guns were there, so they had to be planted by the university.

  • dukefan101 Jan 8, 11:17 a.m.

    Someone with intentions on stopping a crime wouldn't act surprised once his locker was opened and the guns were found. He knew he was busted and freaked out! Thank God his coworkers saw it and reported it! They are the real ones who should be thanked for stopping a potential crime!

  • WageSlave Jan 8, 11:15 a.m.

    I am going to get a machine gun that I can carry around in a violin case. I hunt multiple wood chucks.
    piene2

    I would not put it in a violin case. Need to have it easy to get to because those wood chucks are pretty quick. Also, make you have your license and permits in good standing order. I would hate for you to get in trouble.

    Have fun!

  • piene2 Jan 8, 11:02 a.m.

    "Also...I myself always have a pistol, hunting knife and an ax in my truck. I hunt, split wood and am always prepared to defend myself.
    WageSlave"

    I am going to get a machine gun that I can carry around in a violin case. I hunt multiple wood chucks.

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 11:02 a.m.

    junkmail5 I am not "inventing" those things because I know first hand what happened. You are reading what was written in a news article, I am telling you what DID happen. You can believe what you want to hear from the media, but I am actually giving you information from a 1st hand point of view. How would he be surprised that 3 guns were in his possession? Did they just magically appear in his locker and his truck?? Please.

  • WageSlave Jan 8, 10:54 a.m.

    I used to work with this guy when I was an undergrad working at the vet school. Seemed like a good guy, still driving the same tacoma too. Probably just wanted to be able to defend himself incase another shooting broke out.

    Also...I myself always have a pistol, hunting knife and an ax in my truck. I hunt, split wood and am always prepared to defend myself.

    The AR-15 I can't speak for though.

  • piene2 Jan 8, 10:52 a.m.

    "piene2: I've been a member of the NRA for some time, and I've never once heard them advocate breaking the law, nor have I ever heard of them paying for the defense of someone who broke the law. Sorry, but your attempt to demonize the NRA only tells us that you're out of good arguments.
    Mike H"

    Than why does the National Rifle Association maintain a defense fund? They attempt to disguise it but most thinking people are not fooled.

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 10:49 a.m.

    from your own story, he was surprised the guns were there, and then didn't feel well and was taken to the hospital"

    Nothing about a "mental breakdown" and nothing about any evil intent.

    You're simply inventing those things.

  • ifcdirector Jan 8, 10:48 a.m.

    It's an inane law. Why are educational areas some magical zone? This law should be changed if just for that fact that people are ensnared every year from out of town who get lost and wander across the NC State campus in their cars trying to get from Western Blvd to Hillsborough or back again and never realizing they are driving onto a campus "gun free zone." How have gun free zones worked anyway when it comes to safety and security for students over the past twenty years?

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 10:27 a.m.

    I agree he broken the law and should be punished for it, but it's simply untrue to say he couldn't have had good intentions in his actions.-junkmail5

    Then why did he have a mental breakdown once he was arrested by the police?? He had to be taken to the hospital directly after because he had a meltdown. You can try to justify this all you want to. I would give him the benefit of the doubt if he only had one handgun on him, but 2 in his locker and an AR-15 in his truck, along with 2 axes and a hunting knife are not needed for self defense.

  • The Anti Hans Jan 8, 10:25 a.m.

    piene2: I've been a member of the NRA for some time, and I've never once heard them advocate breaking the law, nor have I ever heard of them paying for the defense of someone who broke the law. Sorry, but your attempt to demonize the NRA only tells us that you're out of good arguments.

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 10:17 a.m.

    Say what you wish, but this man had no good intentions with these weapons.
    Jonny 2nuts

    Unless his intention was to have one handy to STOP a crime.

    As has happened in a few school shootings in the past- where the guy had to run out to his car to get his gun so took longer to stop the bad guy than if he'd had one handy.

    I agree he broken the law and should be punished for it, but it's simply untrue to say he couldn't have had good intentions in his actions.

  • junkmail5 Jan 8, 10:04 a.m.

    Are they making pink ones for the ladies yet?
    Earth Brook

    Yet? they've had those for many many years...

    http://www.2dayblog.com/2008/01/24/hello-kitty-ar-15-assault-rifle/

  • Nope Jan 8, 9:57 a.m.

    "Why is it that Constitutional rights don't apply to government property? Can someone explain that one to me?
    htomc42"

    Constitutional rights are not absolute and are subject to reasonable limitation. Hence concealed carry permits, license requirements, etc.

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 9:57 a.m.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/01/08/2589611/nc-state-employee-arrested-after.html -There is a little more information for anyone confused about what he had. He had two handguns in his employee locker, on campus. One that was loaded and one that was not. He was not trying to sell something later or just forgot he had them. He carried them with him to his place of work, which he knew was illegal, while also having an AR-15 in his vehicle. Which as an employee of the university, he also knew was illegal. Say what you wish, but this man had no good intentions with these weapons.

  • Six String Jan 8, 9:56 a.m.

    "What other color is there besides camouflage for the red necks? Are they making pink ones for the ladies yet?"
    @Earth Brooks... Sadly, the answer is yes.

  • piene2 Jan 8, 9:56 a.m.

    " he was probably just planning on going hunting and chopping some firewood right after work and not planning something sick and twisted.
    Jonny 2nuts"

    At the very least we need to work to space out the mass shootings so we can be done with the funerals from the last mass shooting before we have to begin the funerals for the next mass shooting. The mass shootings are beginning to run together and become confusing. Perhaps we need score cards or some such to track all the mass shootings.

  • xylem01 Jan 8, 9:55 a.m.

    Witch hunt!

  • mj1angier Jan 8, 9:46 a.m.

    There is a lot lacking in this story. For all we know, he could of had all the items boxed up to sell to someone. A knife, 2 axes and an unloaded gun does not sound like someone looking to kill folks.

  • momeeee Jan 8, 9:39 a.m.

    It did say he was at the vet school. Perhaps he was taking in a sick large animal and did not have time to empty his truck of axes and his gun. I am sure he probably always carries a knife - they can be useful around the farm. No idea if this was the case, but could be...

  • Jonny 2nuts Jan 8, 9:39 a.m.

    piene2- That is sad but true. But I don't think the NRA can get around the laws of no firearms allowed on campus. This guy obviously had some deep issues if he felt the need to bring 3 guns and 2 axes on school grounds. But hey, he was probably just planning on going hunting and chopping some firewood right after work and not planning something sick and twisted.

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