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  • joeBob Jan 7, 10:27 a.m.

    old news, happened 4 days ago

  • rocket Jan 4, 4:30 p.m.

    "Who decides what employees can be armed and where?"

    If you have decided to let an employee be armed, why would you have restrictions on where?

  • rocket Jan 4, 4:28 p.m.

    "I support legal firearms ownership and carry but if we get to the point where everyone is walking around with a gun then we have lost freedom, not gained it."

    I don't follow that logic at all. As long as there are still laws in place against assault and murder and we have people enforcing those laws, how do responsible armed citizens threaten your freedom? It's not the law abiding citizen with a concealed carry permit that you have to worry about.

  • Caveman93 Jan 4, 4:10 p.m.

    Caveman93 - Aside from vague sarcasm...what's your point?
    Relic

    Nothing. Just stating a fact.

  • Relic Jan 4, 3:35 p.m.

    "So they're going to simulate a bunch of people getting shot, the shooter killing himself, and show up 20 minutes later to lock down the campus?"

    No. They're going to simulate the shooter coming in and being confronted by a mental health professional and giving himself up and then starting a support group. Sometimes I wonder why police and deputies even bother when the average person is an ungrateful sarcastic hack just waiting to throw out criticism.

  • Relic Jan 4, 3:33 p.m.

    "An armed employee."

    Logical? Yes. Practical? No. Who trains the "armed employee"? Are they legally protected from using force if it occurs? Who decides what employees can be armed and where? For my part the last person I'd want carrying a gun was someone that had little or no knowledge or training on it or where a kid could get access to it. I support legal firearms ownership and carry but if we get to the point where everyone is walking around with a gun then we have lost freedom, not gained it.

  • Relic Jan 4, 3:28 p.m.

    Caveman93 - Aside from vague sarcasm...what's your point?

  • Relic Jan 4, 3:26 p.m.

    "I guess the police showing up in force 30 minutes after the people are dead makes some feel good?!?!"

    And where do you get 30 minutes from? On the NCSU and NCCU campus they have campus police officers that generally respond to an emergency call in 2 minutes or less. Raleigh PD and Wake County officers would probably be 3 to 5 minutes responding in Raleigh and the same with Durham PD and Durham SO at NCCU. Throw in any State Troopers and other state officers in the area and you probably have more coming in 6-8 minutes. Nothing about ANYONE getting shot makes anyone "feel good". Keeping as many people as possible from being shot does. Dang...I can't believe that I just agreed with GravyPig! Will wonders never cease!

  • Caveman93 Jan 4, 2:51 p.m.

    But... but isn't that a gun free zone????

  • mvenable Jan 4, 2:43 p.m.

    So they're going to simulate a bunch of people getting shot, the shooter killing himself, and show up 20 minutes later to lock down the campus?

  • Caveman93 Jan 4, 2:30 p.m.

    I thought NCSU was a "gun free" zone. What gives?

  • COLT45 Jan 4, 2:15 p.m.

    Glad to see this type of training going on. Hopefully the trainees won't have to use it.

  • nascar33 Jan 4, 2:05 p.m.

    "And you would have prevented this how?" GravyPig

    Maybe not prevent it but possibly minimize it if all the people on campus weren't disarmed. Every wonder why there aren't a lot of attacks on police stations or gun shops???

  • rocket Jan 4, 2:01 p.m.

    "And you would have prevented this how?"

    An armed employee.

  • rocket Jan 4, 1:59 p.m.

    "They need to spend money on mental health programs as opposed to setting up imaginary safe guards that are of illusory importance."

    Do you really think throwing money at mental health programs will completely eliminate the risk? It may help but there will still be a need for good guys with guns.

  • nighttrain2010 Jan 4, 1:58 p.m.

    >>I guess the police showing up in force 30 minutes after the people are dead makes some feel good?!?! - Pirate01

    That's about it. Saw a clip the other night from the 'preparedness' training on NCCU's campus. Pitiful and nothing but. Of course there wouldn't be a need for all this if universities and other government institutions weren't 'gun free'.

    These 'exercises' are nothing more than training the masses to believe that the police are the only answer to protecting ourselves.

  • Uhavenoclu Jan 4, 1:41 p.m.

    iT ONLY TAKES A FEW SPLIT SECONDS TO DESTROY ANYTHING...wATCH AND OBSERVING AND NOT TRUSTING IS THE ONLY PREPARDNESS THERE IS.

  • baldchip Jan 4, 1:38 p.m.

    Ok guys-how do we prevent these random mass shootings?? Let's cut to the chase!!

    Guns??-NO!! Mental health?? Maybe some!! Security?? Good possibility!! Had someone in that school had a concealed weapon-along with good training, the carnage could well have been reduced. Same senerio for the theater in Colorado. Had someone had a concealed weapon that night, the senerio might well have been different. Yet, both places do not allow concealed weapons.
    HUMMM??

    As for police departments, they must practice verious senerios to make sure their response plans are on target. They will unpack today's exercise completely to discover weaknesses and where they can improve-as well they should.

    WE cannot have police units everywhere-all the time. Private citizens must protect themselves & their families from crazies or more of this will happen!!

  • renaissancemon Jan 4, 1:37 p.m.

    >> I guess the police showing up in force 30 minutes after the people are dead makes some feel good?!?!

    > And you would have prevented this how?

    And you will permit me to defend myself how?

  • GravyPig Jan 4, 12:40 p.m.

    "I guess the police showing up in force 30 minutes after the people are dead makes some feel good?!?!"

    And you would have prevented this how?

  • Pirate01 Jan 4, 11:38 a.m.

    I guess the police showing up in force 30 minutes after the people are dead makes some feel good?!?!

  • WageSlave Jan 4, 10:58 a.m.

    Relic,

    Im sure it is assumed that everyone has the proper gear when in a active drill. There is nothing random about a planned drill.

    Also, there is a lot about the Conneticut shooter we do not know. Perhaps if they would release the footage from school cameras we would know.

  • dontstopnow Jan 4, 10:56 a.m.

    Wonder if they are looking for extras to play bit parts....LOL

  • Relic Jan 4, 10:29 a.m.

    "why don't they allow someone to come on campus with a paintball gun, full magazine and then give the cops paintball guns as well and see just how many people the "killer" can take out before the police get him."

    Well, first you can't do that randomly because shooting paintballs at people that don't have protective gear. They hurt and can damage eyes and soft tissue. However, many law enforcement officers do have "active shooter" training where they use paint guns or simulated ammo and the shooter/s also have these guns and they do try to improve response times to active shooters, work on how to contain the area, etc. The Conneticut shooter fully intended on killing more people but shot himself when he knew officers were entering the building. No amount of mental health counseling would have helped save the OTHER innocent lives had officers not been coming in.

  • WageSlave Jan 4, 9:58 a.m.

    why don't they allow someone to come on campus with a paintball gun, full magazine and then give the cops paintball guns as well and see just how many people the "killer" can take out before the police get him. Any one person can outsmart campus security, airport security, or theater security. They need to spend money on mental health programs as opposed to setting up imaginary safe guards that are of illusory importance.
    atheistswillrule

    Sounds better than drills on an empty campus. But hey, why can't the students and staff have paintball guns too? If they wanted to and had the proper training of course.

  • cass122 Jan 4, 9:27 a.m.

    And so it begins! Martial Law soon to begin!

  • Minarchist Jan 4, 9:27 a.m.

    Wanted to comment before the same folks get on this one as they did the NCCU article. When they say terrorist they mean the active shooters, you know Virginia Tech, Sunny Brook, Columbine... they are terrorists after all. - KMA

    Look up the legal definitin of terrorist. A terrorist cause "terror" for "political gain". I thought child molestors were terrorist, but LEGALLY they are not. Morally sure.

  • atheistswillrule Jan 4, 9:18 a.m.

    why don't they allow someone to come on campus with a paintball gun, full magazine and then give the cops paintball guns as well and see just how many people the "killer" can take out before the police get him. Any one person can outsmart campus security, airport security, or theater security. They need to spend money on mental health programs as opposed to setting up imaginary safe guards that are of illusory importance.

  • WageSlave Jan 4, 9:06 a.m.

    KMA,

    You have to keep up with the new speak. Those are called Lone Wolf domestic terrorist.

    And if you are going to refer to a CIA trained and funded terrorist group that we have spent Billions in pursuit of; you should at least spell their name right. Al Qaeda.

  • kma1005 Jan 4, 8:37 a.m.

    Wanted to comment before the same folks get on this one as they did the NCCU article. When they say terrorist they mean the active shooters, you know Virginia Tech, Sunny Brook, Columbine... they are terrorists after all.

    Some folks were whining that they were practicing for terrorists of the Al Queada nature.

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