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  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 4, 11:50 a.m.

    if not then you have no case for keeping your toys. No hobby or delusion is worth the lives of 8000 Americans every year.
    Grand Union

    The difference is we have a document that allows us to own guns, other countries dont. When you start thinking for yourself you may choose to own one or not, thats your CHOICE, you libs love some choice when it comes to killing a baby.

  • Scare Crow Jan 3, 4:33 p.m.

    well put paul

  • Paul Parker Jan 3, 4:25 p.m.

    yet its not me that is buying a gun........The risk to me personally is so tiny as to not worth the worry but I bet the risk of nuts with guns seems very real to the Parents of those 20 kids.
    Grand Union

    You claim the risk is so tiny that it is not worth you worrying about, and yet you are still so hysterically terrified of them that you want to ban everybody from having them. Please explain to me again how you are not living in constant fear of an inanimate object!

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 3:39 p.m.

    "debunked with something called "research" Prove it. So far your arguments would fail a review commitee."

    Prove what? Its not me that wants a toy that can kill dozens of people in seconds.......and a toy that killed 20 kids a few weeks ago.
    The US has a Murder rate 4X that of any comparable Country whilst other crimes are about the same......now it might be that Americans are simply better at killing people or it may be that they have easy access to the tools to do so.....we know the latter is true.....can you show that the former is also true....if not then you have no case for keeping your toys. No hobby or delusion is worth the lives of 8000 Americans every year.

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 3:33 p.m.

    "No I would not."

    how would we know? nothing rational out of you yet.

    "Living in constant fear is also a red flag of mental illness."

    yet its not me that is buying a gun........The risk to me personally is so tiny as to not worth the worry but I bet the risk of nuts with guns seems very real to the Parents of those 20 kids.

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 3:29 p.m.

    "Lots of ifs and buts going on here. If ifs and buts were fruits and nuts we could all have a merry christmas."

    How merry a Christmas do you think the parents of the 20 kids killed in Conn. had.......

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 3:28 p.m.

    "Liberalism is the belief that mankind is perfectable."

    where do you get such rubbish from....if anything its the opposite. It recognizes that not all mankind can be perfect but that we shouldn't punish them for that.

    "Conservatism is the belief that mankind is flawed and that there will always be flaws."

    and that such flawed people must be allowed to have guns capable of killing dozens in seconds.......yeah that makes great sense!

    "That's why our government was designed with a separation of powers - to offer checks and balances against human failings."

    Indeed.

    "If it were based on trust, all we'd need is a king or dictator and trust they'd make the right choices"

    Or wait, we could vote to elect our leaders........ the trust required is less as we can always replace them.

  • stevee2 Jan 3, 3:00 p.m.

    Grand Delusion!

  • saturn5 Jan 3, 2:37 p.m.

    atheistswillrule: "Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.”

    Liberalism is the belief that mankind is perfectable.
    Conservatism is the belief that mankind is flawed and that there will always be flaws. That's why our government was designed with a separation of powers - to offer checks and balances against human failings. If it were based on trust, all we'd need is a king or dictator and trust they'd make the right choices.

    "Trust, but verify."

  • kmanc4s Jan 3, 1:53 p.m.

    "There are a lot of armed people in Franklin County" That's right! This guy, sooner or later, is going to walk into a store and confront someone that's not going to be armed and not scared and there's going to be one less criminal in the world.

  • batcave Jan 3, 1:04 p.m.

    That assume that the bad guy doesn't have the element of surprise and simply shoots first.....and not only robs store but now also has a gun he can sell

    Lots of ifs and buts going on here. If ifs and buts were fruits and nuts we could all have a merry christmas.

  • batcave Jan 3, 1:02 p.m.

    If it comes to a rational debate you lose big time

    No I would not.

  • batcave Jan 3, 1:01 p.m.

    I'm afraid of fools and the insane with guns......

    Living in constant fear is also a red flag of mental illness.

  • batcave Jan 3, 1:00 p.m.

    debunked with something called "research"
    Prove it. So far your arguments would fail a review commitee.

  • batcave Jan 3, 12:59 p.m.

    Well, as most people know Elmer Fudd, Wile E. Coyote and Yosemite Sam all had fairly blundering natures

    Looks like you can't seperate cartoons from real life? That is a form of pyschosis.

  • gvmntcheese Jan 3, 12:57 p.m.

    The 2nd Amendment and the Supreme Court have already addressed this issue. Why are we still bickering about something we already have rules and regulations in place for? Kneejerk reactions for every traumatic "unscheduled or unsanctioned" event can not and should not be accounted for. Our liberties depend on this balance! My question to the gun grabbers and do gooders--What about all the guns that are already out in society in the hands of the same criminals who have no regard for the current gun laws? How do we as citizens defend against this? Wait for law enforcement? Blacksburg was a clear example of how waiting will get you killed. Being safer than sorry is not a paranoid act. We all face real threats every time we walk out the door. Why give those who do not respect law and humanity an open invitation to threaten more or do more harm? Criminals only respect 1 thing and it is not you or anything you cherish.

  • smhnraleigh Jan 3, 12:45 p.m.

    *Country Girlz* is right...this perp is safer in the Franklin County court system. DA's will let him plea bargain his way out of it. All charges will be dropped but one...serve very little time if any. This perp will eventually run up with an armed store owner and get blown away, before caught.

  • justaconservativeguy Jan 3, 12:28 p.m.

    I'm not afraid of guns.....I'm afraid of fools and the insane with guns......and given the comments of the gun lobby on Golo we should all be afraid as many are bordering insanity.
    Click to view my profile Grand Union

    In you own statement, you admit that a gun does nothing without a person firing it. Yet we need gun control? Maybe we need human control.

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 11:33 a.m.

    "If you were half as intelligent as you thought you were, I would argue with you. But, as anyone can see from above, all you have are generalizations, prejudices, stereotypes and name calling to rely on. Really would not be a hard argument to win."

    yet you don't even try.....weird. I mean if your case is so strong it would be easy to put, say, one winning argument forward......but you won't, because you can't because there is not a single positive argument to make that supports the current free for all on guns. If it comes to a rational debate you lose big time and you know it which is why all the pro gun propaganda is so easily debunked with something called "research"

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 11:26 a.m.

    "Well, as most people know Elmer Fudd, Wile E. Coyote and Yosemite Sam all had fairly blundering natures, live in self delusional bliss, and use firearms frequently and ineptly. Sounds like right wing conservatives to me. Or, as Gladstone stated " “Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.” I think the shoe fits."

    Yep that sums them up pretty well.....they probably likely look like Elmer as well :)

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 11:24 a.m.

    "And yet you're afraid of guns and are using fear for leverage. Hypocrite"

    I'm not afraid of guns.....I'm afraid of fools and the insane with guns......and given the comments of the gun lobby on Golo we should all be afraid as many are bordering insanity.

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 11:22 a.m.

    "There are alot of armed people in Franklin County...More armed business owners than armed crooks......This fella will be safer in the courts."

    That assume that the bad guy doesn't have the element of surprise and simply shoots first.....and not only robs store but now also has a gun he can sell.....so instead of some money and stuff getting stolen we have dead store owner or clerk and an extra gun in the hands of criminals......way to go, gun lobby

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 3, 11:18 a.m.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.”

    atheistswillrule

    And yet you're afraid of guns and are using fear for leverage. Hypocrite

  • justaconservativeguy Jan 3, 11:14 a.m.

    We really need to get control over guns in our country over the strident objections of conservatives. The typical conservative is one who opposes all progress. They are paranoid, enjoy using fear to control others, and in most cases have no clue what they are talking about. They hate facts, hate government, and do not believe in contributing to society. Conservatives cling to the failed policies and traditions of the past and are willing to use the threat of violence at times to return to them. No wonder they need a gun under every bed and under every liqour cabinet to feel safe.
    Click to view my profile atheistswillrule

    If you were half as intelligent as you thought you were, I would argue with you. But, as anyone can see from above, all you have are generalizations, prejudices, stereotypes and name calling to rely on. Really would not be a hard argument to win.

  • atheistswillrule Jan 3, 10:59 a.m.

    We really need to get control over guns in our country over the strident objections of conservatives. The typical conservative is one who opposes all progress. They are paranoid, enjoy using fear to control others, and in most cases have no clue what they are talking about. They hate facts, hate government, and do not believe in contributing to society. Conservatives cling to the failed policies and traditions of the past and are willing to use the threat of violence at times to return to them. No wonder they need a gun under every bed and under every liqour cabinet to feel safe.

  • atheistswillrule Jan 3, 10:55 a.m.

    "Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd. They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure." atheistswillrule
    Please elaborate. farm

    Well, as most people know Elmer Fudd, Wile E. Coyote and Yosemite Sam all had fairly blundering natures, live in self delusional bliss, and use firearms frequently and ineptly. Sounds like right wing conservatives to me. Or, as Gladstone stated " “Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear.” I think the shoe fits.

  • Country Girlz Have MORE fun Jan 3, 10:49 a.m.

    There are alot of armed people in Franklin County...More armed business owners than armed crooks......This fella will be safer in the courts.

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 3, 10:27 a.m.

    Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd. They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure.

    atheistswillrule

    *sigh* more name calling and fantasies from the open minded left. You are all just as bad look up the Black Bloc

  • delta29alpha Jan 3, 10:24 a.m.

    "Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd. They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure."
    atheistswillrule

    But yet, they are still far superior to you. Climb back under your rock and quit bothering people.

  • farm Jan 3, 10:17 a.m.

    "Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd. They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure."

    Please elaborate

  • Maggs Jan 3, 10:11 a.m.

    I'm thinking I might spend a few evenings parked outside my own local mini-mart. Maybe take pictures of all the license plates of cars that pull up just before closing time. (This is assuming this clown has a car, anyway!) I like the people at my mart and don't want them to get hurt!

  • LKG-Lover Jan 3, 10:06 a.m.

    I travel through many of these areas on a regular basis. I have a CC permit and will certainly be more aware of my surroundings. Sooner or later this type of criminal will be caught. They just aren't that smart to begin with.

  • atheistswillrule Jan 3, 10:01 a.m.

    Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd. They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure.

  • Bartmeister Jan 3, 9:56 a.m.

    Seems that anyone desperate enough to rob convenience stores is not just going to hand his gun in and go work at McDonalds..... Grand Union

    And yet you believe they will just hand their gun over if they are banned? Crumps Br0ther

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    Sad but true! However on the random stakeouts, I've always liked the signs or notices posted saying "This property is guarded by Smith & Wesson 4 nights a week, you guess which 4". The Air Marshall's employ a plan by placing Marshals on random and strategic flights. Law enforcement has gotten pretty sophisticated in the past 15 years at the local level.

  • saturn5 Jan 3, 9:52 a.m.

    delta29alpha: "Random stakeouts are pretty hit or miss when you consider the number of potential targets."

    You missed the point. All convenience stores were posted as potential stakeout sites. It worked because criminals didn't know where the cops would be, but that there was a good chance of them getting shot if they picked the wrong store. It deterred far more crime than they actualy caught. That was the beauty of it.

  • Crumps Br0ther Jan 3, 9:19 a.m.

    Seems that anyone desperate enough to rob convenience stores is not just going to hand his gun in and go work at McDonalds.....
    Grand Union

    And yet you believe they will just hand their gun over if they are banned?

  • delta29alpha Jan 3, 9:16 a.m.

    Random stakeouts are pretty hit or miss when you consider the number of potential targets. Unless Intel can pin it down to a limited area. Of course the more teams working the higher percentage but keep in mind that stake outs are usually performed by officers either working overtime or reassigned from other duties temporarily. So there is usually some added cost. Small departments don't have extra personnel sitting around unassigned. Sometimes the detectives assigned to the original robberies may stake out a location if they have worked up a profile or have info from a street source. Also these detectives while on stakeout are not able to investigate their other cases and may have 5 to 10 other active investigations assigned to them. They do what they can though with the limited resources available.

  • maybelle Jan 3, 9:07 a.m.

    Why is the film so small if you made it bigger we might could see the video as is we need a magnifier.Can't ID what you can't see

  • Grand Union Jan 3, 8:47 a.m.

    "Do what Florida did. Have random stake outs by Police in convenience stores. Post notices in all stores that it *may* be a stake out location. It cut convenience store robberies drastically and didn't require huge amounts of extra manpower."

    But did it just displace the crime elsewhere? Seems that anyone desperate enough to rob convenience stores is not just going to hand his gun in and go work at McDonalds.....

  • saturn5 Jan 3, 8:25 a.m.

    Do what Florida did. Have random stake outs by Police in convenience stores. Post notices in all stores that it *may* be a stake out location. It cut convenience store robberies drastically and didn't require huge amounts of extra manpower.

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