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me2you Jan 7, 3:27 p.m.
I was just in the downtown part this weekend thinking they need some revitalization. It's so small...can only do but so much however.
chattycat Jan 4, 8:18 a.m.
"Cary need to focus on increasing crime rates and protecting citizens before you draw more targets to the town. No one wants to get robbed walking to the coffee shop."
You can't be serious. Cary is known nationwide for its low crime rate and for being safe. Not sure what planet you live on.
DangYankee Jan 3, 4:10 p.m.
@Road-wearier: Not sure where you learned to drive (I learned to drive in midtown Manhattan), but the circles/rotaries "Up Nawth" work just like the roundabouts - those in the circle/rotary/roundabout have the right-of-way. Anyone on this board ever drive through the Concord rotary, west of Boston, right near the prison? You could get stuck for a few go-rounds trying to get OUT of the darn thing!
As to the Cary bashing... Cary still has the lowest property tax rates in Wake County, and in 2012 the town managed to end with a surplus. Can Raleigh say the same?
GravyPig Jan 3, 12:14 p.m.
"I never had a problem with the roundabout on Hillsborough St. Then again, I know how to read signs."
GravyPig Jan 3, 12:12 p.m.
"all i can say to the na-sayers is that we had a record year in downtown cary as a small business. everyone else can keep burying their ostrich head in the sand with high rent."
I can't account for all the Cary bashing that goes on. Guess it's just jelousy.
GravyPig Jan 3, 12:11 p.m.
"Traffic circles don't work in this country, just drive on Hillsborough Street to see all the knuckleheads that don't know what they are doing."
So the problem with traffic circles is that Americans are too stupid to understand how to use them? Interesting.
GravyPig Jan 3, 12:06 p.m.
"ha ha! too right - remember the pedestrian bridge over the beltline for raleigh? cary just HAAAAD to have one, so they built their own. problem is, cary's is in a place that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. but by god, they weren't shown up by raleigh!"
Pedestrian bridge? You mean the one over US1/64? You mean the one that connects MacDonald Woods Park to Marla Dorrel Park via the greenway trails? I don't know what purpose that would serve. It's as usless as the one in Raleigh that also connects sections of the greenway.
doraellie Jan 3, 11:25 a.m.
Having spent years negotiating (and getting trapped in) the London roundabouts, I think these sweet little traffic circles are a delight - the speed limit is already low on the approaches from Chatham Street so there shouldn't be many fender benders if the entering vehicles decline to yeild to existing drivers. Good on you ToC!
Road-wearier Jan 3, 11:17 a.m.
"They got rid of traffic circles 40 or 50 years ago because they did not work or they were more dangerous so why are they bringing them back now? Doesn't anyone look at history?"
Traffic circle is not roundabout. Roundabouts are smaller and thus slower; traffic in the roundabout has the right of way where many of the circles/rotaries Up Nawth gave right of way to cars entering. Roundabouts work, and work VERY well, everywhere else on this planet. I refuse to accept that Americans are mentally unable to deal with roundabouts...that's just admitting we're dopes.
JustAName Jan 3, 11:04 a.m.
"Really? You want crime rates increased?" - jonnraleigh
Burglaries are up, but they are trying to suppress it by saying it is just teenage activity.
kikinc Jan 3, 10:38 a.m.
I never had a problem with the roundabout on Hillsborough St. Then again, I know how to read signs.
Unfair Moderators Stink Jan 3, 9:12 a.m.
There's nothing wrong with traffic circles except for the nimrods who don't use them properly. Even though every entrance as a big yellow YIELD sign, I've seen countless people just barrell into them like everyone else is supposed to get out of their way. Whoever is already IN the circle has the right of way......a very simple concept, yet seems to be SO hard to grasp for so many drivers.
jonnraleigh Jan 3, 8:57 a.m.
Its the who what
"Cary need to focus on increasing crime rates"
Really? You want crime rates increased?
shotgun_willie Jan 3, 8:44 a.m.
Wow traffic circles! Thats the most exciting thing that town has done since installing those ridiculous digital signs they never use.
jjsmith1973 Jan 2, 7:19 p.m.
One) they are not harder or more expensive to maintain. Two) traffic circles aren't that hard to use except for some reason in this area. 3) I'm not surprised however because people have a hard time grasping how to use on ramps(acceleration lanes), off ramps (deacceleration lanes), and turn signals
common tater Jan 2, 7:05 p.m.
If the powers that be insist on adding traffic circles after all the failure stories, they need to change license requirements. All drivers should have to make multiple trips thru a busy circle to get a license. All the close calls I've had make it clear that a lot of drivers don't understand the "yield to vehicles already in the circle" rule...or they just choose to ignore it.
uragoner2 Jan 2, 6:21 p.m.
Traffic circles make agressive drivers blameless for accidents they cause. I don't know how many times I've already began to enter the circle and some one feels they have the right to gun their car into circle after the fact like its a demolition derby racetrack. They're certainly much more costly to build and maintain, but I guess that's how politics works.
LuvLivingInCary Jan 2, 6:11 p.m.
all i can say to the na-sayers is that we had a record year in downtown cary as a small business. everyone else can keep burying their ostrich head in the sand with high rent.
SaveEnergyMan Jan 2, 6:05 p.m.
"It just requires the driver to be smart enough to use them" - jjsmith1973
Therein lies the problem. Most other countries make it hard to get and keep a drivers license. Here we give one to anyone with a pulse. The real problem is our self-centered careless culture.
immaannoid Jan 2, 5:37 p.m.
No matter what Cary does, it's so called "downtown" will look like a one-horse town.
Traffic circles don't work in this country, just drive on Hillsborough Street to see all the knuckleheads that don't know what they are doing.
mmtlash Jan 2, 5:29 p.m.
downtown Cary still reflects when Cary had a population of under 10,000 ppl....Hillsborough has a bigger downtown! as a side note downtown Cary has alot of potential and is very quaint....hope they just don't end up making it too generic...
jjsmith1973 Jan 2, 5:16 p.m.
@tgentry1005 Actually we one of a few countries that don't use them. Traffic circles are safer and allow for better flow of traffic. It just requires the driver to be smart enough to use them
miketroll3572 Jan 2, 5:08 p.m.
They are beating a dead horse. No where to park near ashworth's or should I say very limited parking.
3forme Jan 2, 5:06 p.m.
Much nicer when the cows were on Kildare Farm Road..
monkeyboy Jan 2, 4:54 p.m.
"Its just Cary,, Nothing to effect the country boyz,, Raleigh has a new central Park, ( Dix) and Cary needs to keep up.." - oleguy
ha ha! too right - remember the pedestrian bridge over the beltline for raleigh? cary just HAAAAD to have one, so they built their own. problem is, cary's is in a place that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. but by god, they weren't shown up by raleigh!
tgentry1005 Jan 2, 4:50 p.m.
They got rid of traffic circles 40 or 50 years ago because they did not work or they were more dangerous so why are they bringing them back now? Doesn't anyone look at history?
The traffic circles in Durham are a joke. My 7 and 9 year old grandsons could have done a better job of designing them! Better still, they probably could have seen they are a waste of taxpayer money!
Deb1003 Jan 2, 4:38 p.m.
I find it funny how people get all worked up over traffic circles. It's the fastest and easiest way to get through an intersection, all you need to know is how to merge.
Road-wearier Jan 2, 4:36 p.m.
Curious locations for roundabouts but hey, the E Durham intersection can be a bit messy. And I will gladly take roundabouts over traffic signals or 4 way stops. They just waste time and fuel; the single lane roundabouts on Hillsborough work very nicely. The weird two lane/not two lane one was not well thought out.
Its the who what Jan 2, 4:33 p.m.
Cary need to focus on increasing crime rates and protecting citizens before you draw more targets to the town. No one wants to get robbed walking to the coffee shop.
westernwake1 Jan 2, 4:24 p.m.
Yeah, because the traffic circles worked so well on Hillsborough Street in Raleigh. Let's imitate that.
oleguy Jan 2, 4:20 p.m.
Its just Cary,, Nothing to effect the country boyz,, Raleigh has a new central Park, ( Dix) and Cary needs to keep up..
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03