Junk Mail with your infinite wisdom could you please tell me where 16 trillion dollars went? And explain how we can fix it? Because I am stupid? Really Stupid! golfnturf2

Well, we're finally in agreement!

The current US government has had a public debt for almost its entire existence... It had one from 1789 to 1835... it began to have one again by 1836... the current ~16 trillion dollar one began in 1836, so "where that money went" would take a lot longer accounting than the 1000 characters allowed here can do.

I can tell you where most of it did NOT go though!

Unemployment, food stamps, and welfare.

But those are pretty small portions of our budget.

so it's weird those are the only things your terrible analogy included as drains on the finances.

If you'd like to see where the most recent ~6 trillion came from (and where the projected 2000 surpluss went)I suggest:

http://www.upworthy.com/the-complete-guide-of-what-to-blame-for-our-debt-problem-brought-to-you-by-math

Junk Mail with your infinite wisdom could you please tell me where 16 trillion dollars went? And explain how we can fix it? Because I am stupid? Really Stupid!

You have no clue what Im going for. LOL vinylcarwraps23

Nobody does.

Which is a problem.

Because you have yet to present a single coherent argument anybody can understand from start to finish.

In this respect you have a lot in common with your hero Ron Paul.

And now you're making less sense than ever, since Rule 40 is a rule specific to the republican party... so your bringing it up in a discussion of 3rd party candidates is frankly bizarre.

I suppose you had to throw something really weird out there to try and change the topic away from how Gary Johnson having ballot access in nearly every state totally disproves your earlier point...

Which we also apparently didn't understand.

Just a suggestion- if NOBODY ever understands ANY of your points, perhaps you should learn to do a better job communicating them?

(or find some points that make sense to anyone but yourself)

RULE FORTY. Rule 40. JEEZUZ man please pay attention. Do you even know what a delegate is? LOL

You dont follow what Im going for.- vinylcarwraps23

Sure I do.

You don't understand how elections work. especially in the US.

A 2-party system is inherently HIGHLY likely in any first-past-the-post voting system, like ours. Any useful 3rd party is the rare exception in such systems.

Because generally any vote for the 3rd (or lower) runner in the election is a vote for the winner. junkmail5 January 2, 2013 4:06 p.m

I very much understand. Rule 40. Any questions? You have no clue what Im going for. LOL

16 trillion dollar debt? dang that must have been one bad analogy?! -golfnturf

Mainly it's terrible because:

A) you had one guy with a real job paying a higher income tax rate than anyone in the US does... and nothing about the services he gets from Sam.

B) It's unclear who Sally is supposed to represent at all, because nobody gets paid more in government handouts than the guy with a 40% income tax rate (or even a 25% rate), and certainly not for working half-time.... so that part makes no sense whatsoever.

C) Billy is a bit fuzzy too, since nobody gets paid 50% of the salary of a 40% income tax person on unemployment- so it suggests you don't even understand the program you're trying to compare here...

D) Billys food stamps are a problem too, since 20% of the daily pay of the top earner is VASTLY more than anyone gets in food stamps daily, so again you seem to know nothing about the program you are comparing

So other than nothing in your analogy reflecting reality in any way...

16 trillion dollar debt? dang that must have been one bad analogy?! Or did it go over your head? its fine if it did happens to liberals all the time! If I was writing a graded document or trying to be professional you would know it

Craig builds a lemonade stand. He averages 50 dollars a day. Uncle Sam comes up to him and says you didn't build that! I need 20 dollars everyday. Craig pays it with a sour taste in his mouth because that rate is high. Then somehow uncle SAM still isn't making ends meet because he pays aunt sally to work half days making 65 dollars a day, cousin billy who isnt working and hasnt worked in months 25 a day and 10 a day for food stamps. Uncle Sam looks in his bank account and goes oh boy this isnt good. I am paying more than I am making! Alot more! Then Sam and sally say craig pay your fair share and force him to pay 10 more dollars. Then say hes a greedy conservative because Sam is mad! Then at the end of the year Uncle Sam says that he is giving his elected buddies a pay raise? golfnturf2

If we ran the economy like you write analogies we'd be in worse shape than we are now!

excuse me craig not sam

and for an even better understanding of Ayn Rand I suggest this XKCD-

http://xkcd.com/1049/

But sure to hover your mouse over the comic and read the text as it really drives the point home.

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