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djofraleigh Jan 2, 6:15 p.m.
The man killed was just in the news a couple of months ago for shooting someone in the face? Why was he out, out of jail and out on the town? Charge whomever was serving alcohol to these people.
Relic Jan 2, 1:20 p.m.
It's sad that more people are concerned with banning fox pens in NC than working together to reduce homicide cases like this one based on the number of posts. I suupose that to some liberals saving foxes is more important than working to save minority males who are either homicide suspects or victims.
doechips Jan 2, 12:30 p.m.
Most certainly the music plays a huge factor. Most bars/places with no cover that are Top 40 spots, the lyrics are not inciting violence. I don't want to fight someone listening to Usher, Pitbull, Kesha, etc. But at a party where you are listening to 2Chainz, Chief Keef, Trinidad James, Pastor Troy, etc. you are bouncing more and drinking a little bit more. My experiences are very narrow, but I worked nightclub security and we know when the fights are breaking out due the music sets that play and more guys are on the floor than girls are. That's all I'm saying. Bad advice of course because when guys go out, we go out 5-10 deep and most of the time drama happens, it's react 1st and ask questions later. So of course if we are bouncing and 1 crew bounces into another, that usually is the recipe for disaster.
mac240 Jan 2, 12:05 p.m.
Sometimes it's best to walk, run, jog, skip or just drive away from a confrontation!
fredk Jan 2, 11:15 a.m.
Question, How are bond amounts set?
One guy has no bond, so he's sitting still for a while, we hope.
The other guy a 9 million bond! You mean if it was say, 5 million, he might have come up with it, and be out??
NotUrTypicalAmerican Jan 2, 10:54 a.m.
Also, another huge factor is the type of music that is played that makes us a little more hype.- doechips
So does that mean if African Americans could chill on a certain type of music that shootings and killings would decrease? - JohnnyVoodoo
As an African-American male, I would never sign off on the notion that a type of music that is a major catalyst for inciting violence. From my experiences, it's always been a combo of alcohol and bad advice given to immature dudes on how to be a man given to them from bad sources. Any persons who feel that the only way they can go out on the town is with a gun, never had the intention of having a good time anyway.
exador7 Jan 2, 10:44 a.m.
Ignorance and pathetic ego.
lumberman Jan 2, 10:44 a.m.
This is where the good rev barber need to really be showing some interest. But he knows that if he sticks his nose in this arena he might not fair as well. It is much safer to mess up the school board meeting than to go in to the hood and talk to the folks there. Same with Jesse and Al. Stir the pot get a check do no real good for the people they say they stand for.
anonemoose Jan 2, 10:03 a.m.
WELL, THIS IS A CAREER AS A CRIMINAL CUT SHORT. IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HE ALREADY HAS A FELONY CONVICTION AND ANOTHER PENDING FOR SHOOTING SOMEBODY, PLUS THREE OTHER COURT DATES FOR MISDEMEANORS.
NOW THE SHOOTER IS OFF THE STREETS. WE ARE MUCH SAFER.
JohnnyVoodoo Jan 2, 9:45 a.m.
So according to doechips, who says he is an African American...he suggests that their type of music makes them a little more hyped up. I find that to be a truly remarkable response to a cause and effect scenario such as violence within the black community when it comes to a group of people attending a party. So does that mean if African Americans could chill on a certain type of music that shootings and killings would decrease?
Bartmeister Jan 2, 9:32 a.m.
I wish someone could tell me what dynamics are introduced when a large group of African Americans get together and so many times ends up in violence.
Quite the opposite, there are zero dynamics in a bunch like this.
CorovaNC Jan 2, 9:27 a.m.
caniacfan... I notice what you are talking about and I agree with you that there seems to be a lot of minority killings going on. That sort of thing has been going on as long as I can remember and I don't know if it's a result of one thing in particular but more a combination of a lot of things. Things like poverty, lack of parental guidance, and alcohol seems to be a common thread. Alcohol can effect anybody of any race and be one cause for them to do these things, but it's usually a result of many things. I just wish people wouldn't be so quick to settle their differences with a gun.. but that is only a wish.
doechips Jan 2, 9:13 a.m.
That is a great question @caniacfan. I am African-American and it is a combination of ALL those things except the gang mentality. Also, another huge factor is the type of music that is played that makes us a little more hype. Male pride is an unexplainable phenomenom and instinctively makes us simply have clouded judgment where "how we feel right now" wins over actually pondering the outcome of a dumb decision (in this case a fatal decision). I always wondered how Glenwood Ave. had lots of clubs that were successful (Caucasian/other ethnic groups owned bars) and "African American" clubs were not for the long haul. Clearly, with stories like this that trend will continue.
caniacfan Jan 2, 8:20 a.m.
I wish someone could tell me what dynamics are introduced when a large group of African Americans get together and so many times ends up in violence. Is it a gang thing, money thing, egos, females, alcohol or what? I think it's starting to occur a little more in the Hispanic culture as well, but I think alcohol is a factor there a lot.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03