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  • Bartmeister Jan 2, 10:01 a.m.

    The police know the race, and everybody else here is left to wonder which race committed this dastardly act. This isn't Baskin Robins with 40 million flavors. Black, White, Oriental, and Spanish decent. Pick one.

  • WooHoo2You Dec 31, 4:41 p.m.

    Beachboater,

    -Suppose you hear on the radio, a male 6'2" tall weighing 250 pounds with a shaved head had just killed a neighbor of yours and was heading towards your house. Now there is a knock on your door. It's a male, about 6'2" tall, weighing 250 pounds. Now, does something as simple as skin color matter to you?

    I would ask why you are answering the door if there is a murder reported to be on the way to your house.

    -Imagine the police arrest a black male, 6'2" tall weighing 250 pounds and drag him to jail. He is put in a lineup for the victims. Now the victim says the bad guy was white. D'uh......

    I hope the police don’t start arresting people on high and weight alone. BTW, you are not the police.

    -So you really don't see how the race could help in finding the bad guys?

    So if your husband / wife tells you to go buy that thing with “salt” at the store that ALONE will help you find the product?

  • WooHoo2You Dec 31, 4:34 p.m.

    " Would all of one race be suspects if that is all that they could have seen?" smcallah

    Of course not. But all other races could be excluded.-beachboater

    Yes, but that would still leave countless ‘suspects’ simply because of their color.

  • beachboater Dec 31, 2:34 p.m.

    " Would all of one race be suspects if that is all that they could have seen?" smcallah

    Of course not. But all other races could be excluded.

  • Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Dec 31, 2:33 p.m.

    beachboater, excellent points!!!!!!

    Beth

  • beachboater Dec 31, 1:59 p.m.

    "How exactly would it help if the race was published? What would you do with that information?" smcallah

    Suppose you hear on the radio, a male 6'2" tall weighing 250 pounds with a shaved head had just killed a neighbor of yours and was heading towards your house. Now there is a knock on your door. It's a male, about 6'2" tall, weighing 250 pounds. Now, does something as simple as skin color matter to you?

    Whether it be white, black, yellow, red, blue or green, that descriptor will narrow the field of suspects greatly.

    Imagine the police arrest a black male, 6'2" tall weighing 250 pounds and drag him to jail. He is put in a lineup for the victims. Now the victim says the bad guy was white. D'uh......

    So you really don't see how the race could help in finding the bad guys?

  • Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Dec 31, 1:53 p.m.

    smcallah,

    So, according to you, race should NEVER be published. Interesting! Then, going forward, let's hope race is always left out and never indicated, where crime is concered. While we're at it, let's leave the sex out too. Male/female, should not matter! Heck, while we're at it, let's just crime out!!! Yeah - that is the solution! ANY crime commited, (murder/rate/molestation) who cares! Just don't print it anymore! LOL!

    Beth

  • albegadeep Dec 31, 1:45 p.m.

    Why is anyone mentioning gun control in this article? Besides, there are NO serious suggestions of outlawing ALL guns, just ones designed to kill lots of people in a hurry. A handgun with 4 shots will stop a home invader - if not, you need to go back to the shooting range...

    Thought Criminal WS - Great job!

  • southerntalent Dec 31, 1:12 p.m.

    This is an older nice area in Starmount subdivision,the area across the street is full of rental condos and skateranch brings in alot of elements to the area who walk the streets in the area and cut thru the neighborhoods.Anyone who picks on a disabled or older person regardless of age or race needs their but whooped

  • smcallah Dec 31, 12:15 p.m.

    "If the couple gave the police the race, or any other info., then it should certainly be published!"

    How exactly would it help if the race was published? What would you do with that information?

    The only thing that would help would be an EXACT description or pictures or video.

    Race means nothing. There are thousands of people of all races in the Raleigh area. Would all of one race be suspects if that is all that they could have seen?

  • Thought Criminal WS Dec 31, 11:32 a.m.

    Beth, I sound like a cool cookie but not even close - I leave out the part about hyperventilating, puking from the adrenaline, shaking for hours, being unable to sleep in my own home for weeks afterwards, looking over my shoulder for weeks, and having to move just to get a sense of security that they or thier buddies wouldn't be back for retaliation.

    To say my shorts needed cleaning that eve was an understatement.

  • North Carolina Cutie Dec 31, 11:29 a.m.

    I am glad they weren't hurt.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 31, 11:12 a.m.

    I wish it never happened but I'm glad I didn't need pull the trigger.
    Thought Criminal WS

    Great story, but Im sure some bleeding heart on here will call you an uncivilized savage.

    Glad you are your roomie are OK

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 31, 11:10 a.m.

    Notice this story is kind of buried. Probably since the victims got tied up by bad guys with guns, and that goes against the liberal template that all you need are the police to protect you. if the invaders would have been shot by the homeowners there would be those on here expressing sympathy for the criminals because they were probabably just stealing stufff so they could feed their families or some other bleeding heart drivel

  • beachboater Dec 31, 10:42 a.m.

    "and we want gun control?"
    hjeck32544

    My thoughts exactly. The president of the NRA was heckled for saying "the only thing to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." He was so right. If all guns were banned, guess who would have the guns. The criminals.

    Look at the public record in your local newspaper and see just how many arrests include possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. In my area, the number is rediculously high. It seems like all the bad guys have guns. It's time the good guys start arming themselves.

    Thought criminal - that's a great story. I would love to read more like that. If that happened often enough, home invasions would stop.

  • Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Dec 31, 10:24 a.m.

    Thought Criminal WS said........."I also copied down thier names, DOB, and addresses and let them know if anything came back towards me in the future it would not be a police matter." LOVE IT! That is my favorite part of your story. You sound like a really cool cookie, when under pressure! Good for you.

    Beth

  • Thought Criminal WS Dec 31, 9:56 a.m.

    My home was invaded in 93. Three sorry sacks of you know what busted through my front door, jumped on my room mate beating him and were about to start looting my home. They had already started vandalizing it when I was able to reach my shotgun.

    I "apprehended" three "suspects" (without firing a shot) until police arrived. While I was waiting for the police I forced the suspect to phone his parents and let them know what was happening. I also copied down thier names, DOB, and addresses and let them know if anything came back towards me in the future it would not be a police matter.

    All three clowns thought I was unarmed, which is why they chose my home, they knew my neighbors were armed so they passed by.

    The beating thier parents put on them was worse than any punishment any court of law could have given. Thier parents also paid for my repairs and thanked me for not shooting thier kids.

    I wish it never happened but I'm glad I didn't need pull the trigger.

  • hjeck32544 Dec 31, 9:50 a.m.

    and we want gun control?

  • abbync2001 Dec 31, 9:42 a.m.

    According to the county property website, someone living there is a disabled veteran.

  • Strawberry Letter 23 Beth Wilson Dec 31, 9:18 a.m.

    I'm going to assume the couple who was tied up and robbed, was unable to give even a basic description of the intruders, such as color. That's always important, along with any other good descriptions, such as height, weight..........but if it were me, I probably would not be able to give a description either.

    If the couple gave the police the race, or any other info., then it should certainly be published!

    Beth

  • Eightball Dec 31, 9:13 a.m.

    Had a locksmith tell me recently that most of his 'non-car-keys-locked-inside' work is repairing & replacing deadbolts and locksets on repaired/replaced doors kicked in a home invasion. Said it has skyrocketed.

  • Phyxius1 Dec 31, 9:10 a.m.

    Like I have said before, Raleigh's violent crime is hitting the headlines at a alarmingly increased rate lately. The carjacking and shooting murder of a Durham man Fri was done by two out of three children from Raleigh also. Raleigh`s 2012 crime rate is sure to be rising in the rankings over 2011 rates. Its a shame that the crime rate is rising anywhere that it may be.

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