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  • StunGunn Dec 30, 9:53 a.m.

    I have been a Duke fan for a couple of years now (about 15 years, I moved here in 93 and just... View More

    — Posted by rushbot

    I always wondered why K thrives finding smart basketball players, yet any coach at Duke has struggled to find talented football players who can meet the rigorous academic standards of Duke. What you wrote makes sense, though, and I tend to forget how many more players it takes to make a football team than it does for a basketball team. You should be proud of what Cut has accomplished at Duke, and I can't imagine any other coach doing a better job.

    I wish there was a way to have a level playing field: standard SAT scores and academic records should be required at ALL schools. Until that happens, and I don't believe it ever will, the Dukes and Wakes, and now maybe Carolina after the NCAA investigation, will be at a disadvantage.

    There has to be a better way than the current so-called "student"/athlete, which clearly isn't working. Let students be students and athletes be athletes. Offer scholarships that the athlete can utilize at a future date in the event that their athletic aspirations aren't fulfilled. Offer something, anything, because this current model just doesn't work.

  • rushbot Dec 29, 11:00 a.m.

    I have been a Duke fan for a couple of years now (about 15 years, I moved here in 93 and just believe in the concept of the student playing athletics vs the concept at other schools where it is athletes playing at academics) and I did not see much to be happy about..It is challenging for K to find 12 tall super athletic students, but he still succeeds..it is darn near impossible of Coach Cut to find 50 or 60 because he competes with the service academies, Stanford, Vandy, and the Ivies, plus all the rest of the big time programs who can attract smart big guys..The D was terrible this year and shows no sign of improvement..I am not convinced he ought to keep his D staff..I also don't see them doing well via the air next year..perhaps it is time for the read option..

  • StunGunn Dec 29, 7:36 a.m.

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JGunn. I had to go back and double check. To keep check on teams in the ACC like you have over ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Hokie, if I knew how to pick lotto numbers, Id be posting from the Carribean! I've tried everything sports related - the starting five of the '05 and '09 UNC NC teams, Canes' jersey numbers, a combination of jersey numbers of my favorite players in football and basketball and hockey, and nothing, zero, zip, nada.

  • StunGunn Dec 29, 7:33 a.m.

    Sorry JG, I won't make that mistake again!

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    No worries! There's a lot more guys that post here, so folks think I'm a guy. In a strange way, it's a compliment:)

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 11:31 p.m.

    Sorry JG, I won't make that mistake again!

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 11:20 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes,... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    I agree with all that you have written. Although, this is JGunn. She's solid each time out of ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    I am totally oblivious to the facts! What I meant to say is that I respect Mrs. Gunn's opinion. Gosh, I feel bad now!

  • BattlingBishop 5 Dec 28, 10:23 p.m.

    VT fans will take this one.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Congrats, Hokie!

  • BattlingBishop 5 Dec 28, 10:22 p.m.

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Thanks JGunn. Lucky to finally win a bowl game.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT's win give the ACC a 1 - 1 record in bowls this year. Hope NC State, Clemson, FSU and GT can... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    I'll pull for all ACC teams except GA Tech. How's that?

  • heelsforever Dec 28, 10:11 p.m.

    6 games to qualify for a bowl is pretty lame, should be at least 7. DUKE shouldn't have been... View More

    — Posted by 4tarheels

    Duke should not be in a bowl game? Win six wins? Last year UNC was in a bowl with NO WINS. They... View More

    — Posted by gsms69

    You don't REALLY think they forfeited games last season, do you?

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 9:56 p.m.

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustome... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JGunn. I had to go back and double check. To keep check on teams in the ACC like you have over the past years, I give huge kudos to you. You beat most all on this Sportsfan. I will ask you for your top lottery numbers one day in the near future.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 9:49 p.m.

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Thanks JGunn. Lucky to finally win a bowl game.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT's win give the ACC a 1 - 1 record in bowls this year. Hope NC State, Clemson, FSU and GT can win their games.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 9:44 p.m.

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustome... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    Thanks JGunn. Lucky to finally win a bowl game.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 9:34 p.m.

    VT fans will take this one.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    I'm sure you will! Beamer's record of winning seasons lives for another year.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 9:33 p.m.

    lol...Hang in there, Hokie. Been there, done that a time or several.

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustome... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    That was one ugly game, but I'm glad VT pulled out the win. Now I see why you've been complaining about Logan Thomas all season; he did not look sharp tonight. VT's defense kept them in the game. Glad for Beamer, he has won more games than any other active Div 1 coach, if I heard correctly. That was a tough call to make on 4th down with 5 yards to go, when they decided to try a 51 yard FG, in the rain. Glad to see the same kicker won the game for VT in OT.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 9:27 p.m.

    VT fans will take this one.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 9:15 p.m.

    Thanks Battling. Had Duke eliminated a few TO's they could have won this one. Even two less co... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    lol...Hang in there, Hokie. Been there, done that a time or several.

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustome... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I appreciate this one Battling. We were in command until last year. No offense. Logan Thomas. No one went down in stock like he did. OT right now.

  • kornfan2448 Dec 28, 8:10 p.m.

    Haven't seen Rutgers play once this year, so I can't really comment on them, but I really expected VT to win this one. I know it's not over, but it's not looking good. hopefully they can squeak out the victory.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 28, 8:04 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Time for the Hokies to score a point or two. They're getting stomped tonight. ACC not looking good so far...

  • BattlingBishop 5 Dec 28, 7:45 p.m.

    Good luck, Hokie! Nice effort by Duke last night, just didn't finish. They'll learn from it.... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Thanks Battling. Had Duke eliminated a few TO's they could have won this one. Even two less co... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    lol...Hang in there, Hokie. Been there, done that a time or several.

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustome... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    VT has been rock solid for years. I expect them to bounce back next season. If they have another subpar season, I'd be concerned. They definitely haven't been playing like the Hokies of the past. VT has represented the ACC very well over the years; surprised to see them struggle the way they have this season. Could be one of those things.

  • Hammerhead Dec 28, 7:13 p.m.

    I just read that Thad Lewis will be starting for the Browns on Sunday. That is all.

    — Posted by Hammerhead

    Hey, that's pretty dang good. Sean Renfree might have been a very high draft pick, but he had... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    I knew he was still hanging around the league, good for him, even if it is because of injury to the two ahead of him on the roster.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 7:13 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Good luck, Hokie! Nice effort by Duke last night, just didn't finish. They'll learn from it.... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Thanks Battling. Had Duke eliminated a few TO's they could have won this one. Even two less co... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    lol...Hang in there, Hokie. Been there, done that a time or several.

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    I hear ya. The Hokies are shut out in the 1st. This is not the same program that I'm accustomed to in the last several years. 6-6 to get in, in the last ACC game. No program goes down this way in two years.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 7:10 p.m.

    I just read that Thad Lewis will be starting for the Browns on Sunday. That is all.

    — Posted by Hammerhead

    Hey, that's pretty dang good. Sean Renfree might have been a very high draft pick, but he had surgery last night to repair a torn pec muscle, an injury he suffered late in last night's game, and the recovery time may effect his draft status.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Dec 28, 6:47 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Good luck, Hokie! Nice effort by Duke last night, just didn't finish. They'll learn from it.... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Thanks Battling. Had Duke eliminated a few TO's they could have won this one. Even two less co... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    lol...Hang in there, Hokie. Been there, done that a time or several.

  • Hammerhead Dec 28, 6:43 p.m.

    I just read that Thad Lewis will be starting for the Browns on Sunday. That is all.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 5:50 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Good luck, Hokie! Nice effort by Duke last night, just didn't finish. They'll learn from it.... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Thanks Battling. Had Duke eliminated a few TO's they could have won this one. Even two less could have pulled the win; I think. Duke made a tranformation this season.

    No more jokes and lame comments from some on here. Coach Cut is one of the best coaches in the Div I football. When Peyton Manning calls him to get him back into form...this is all anyone needs to know. The recruits will be coming to Duke because they proved something.

    The Hokies choked our start in this one. Did you hear me cursing down there?

  • BattlingBishop 5 Dec 28, 5:44 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Good luck, Hokie! Nice effort by Duke last night, just didn't finish. They'll learn from it.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 5:43 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes,... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    I agree with all that you have written. Although, this is JGunn. She's solid each time out of ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Yes, I'm a female, but I appreciate the compliment. I know there are just as many folks who... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    I appreciate your objectivity and writing positives about most all teams. I didn't know if the previous writer knew all when I wrote my last one. Coach Cut is a gentleman in life and on the field.

    VT really has gotten off to a super start. Rutgers scores after a fumble from our QB/Center.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:41 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes,... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    Thank you - appreciate it, but I'm not a "Mr". There were other Heels fans pulling for Duke last night on the WRAL live game blog. It was good to see.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:39 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    We're about to find out, Hokie. Hope your guys win!

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:38 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes,... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    I agree with all that you have written. Although, this is JGunn. She's solid each time out of ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Yes, I'm a female, but I appreciate the compliment. I know there are just as many folks who don't like what I write because I'm "too nice", but I can look past the team I pull for, and objectively look at the athletes who have worked so hard all their lives to get where they are today. Smack definitely has its place, and I appreciate the humor written here. That said, when I see a coach like David Cutcliff, I don't care what shade of blue he leads - he's a wonderful man and I'm not ashamed that this Heels fan cheered for Duke last night.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 5:33 p.m.

    Time for the Hokies to WIN a bowl game for a change. Is this this year??? Logan Thomas needs to dial it in mentally. If he can do this for 60 minutes...If VT plays as hard as Duke did last night, we have a chance.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:31 p.m.

    Tie ballgame inside two minutes to play with a 1st goal and lose by 2 TD's? and you want to take... View More

    — Posted by tdouble232323

    The positives are that Duke - yes DUKE - made it to a bowl game for the first time since 1994 and almost - as in one fumble away - from beating a good Cincy team. That's a positive.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 5:28 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes,... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    I agree with all that you have written. Although, this is JGunn. She's solid each time out of the gate. I respect her knowledge, reading, and presentation skills. She keeps it real all of the time on this forum.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:27 p.m.

    1. I really felt bad for Snead last night. You could tell he was beating himself up on the... View More

    — Posted by mxteam44

    1. I totally agree about Snead. Gotta really feel for the guy.
    2. For some reason people have to bring UNC into stories that have NOTHING to do with UNC.

  • 903 mens national championships Dec 28, 5:27 p.m.

    ^As much as I appreciate everything Renfree has done and meant to the Duke football rivival, I never pictured him as an NFL draft possibility. Many times (even up to and including last night's game), I questioned whether he should be the #1 QB on the depth chart.

  • StunGunn Dec 28, 5:24 p.m.

    Duke Football became relevant again when they beat UNC... A lot of sour grapes from UNC fans on... View More

    — Posted by BlueDevils00

    I wouldn't say that made Duke relevant. But it was the first step in the long road back to... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    I'm not sure beating UNC was even a "first step"; but being bowl eligible (and I know they became bowl eligible when they beat Carolina), certainly is a BIG first step toward being relevant. They came oh so close to beating a good Cincy team, and that is definitely a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, it turned out to be like dipping a toe in the water, and not diving into the deep end of relevancy. Duke is losing two very good pieces next year in an excellent QB and receiver. And the sad news is that Renfree had surgery to repair a torn pec and this will effect his draft status.

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 5:07 p.m.

    They lost and there are no victories in a loss. They choked when it mattered and that is why... View More

    — Posted by takeabathgreg

    UNC has lost the Belk Bowl More than any other team that has ever played in it.
    http://en.wikipe... View More

    — Posted by IB4DUKE

    How do those loses compare to the number of years it has taken for dook to even get to a bowl... View More

    — Posted by trueblue0100

    Those loses? Your grammar is as intelligent as your mindset. Allow me to remind you; Duke PLAYED... View More

    — Posted by Rollin Like PDoobie

    This is Football, not Basketball. Also, allow me to remind you that Duke is the #1 CBB Team in the country. New season, different team! Stop trying to play the Lehigh card as I seem to recall Duke isn't the onlhy ACC team that is susceptible to losing. With that said, if that is all you have, I am certainly not one to take from the needy.

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 5:01 p.m.

    They lost and there are no victories in a loss. They choked when it mattered and that is why... View More

    — Posted by takeabathgreg

    UNC has lost the Belk Bowl More than any other team that has ever played in it.
    http://en.wikipe... View More

    — Posted by IB4DUKE

    How do those loses compare to the number of years it has taken for dook to even get to a bowl... View More

    — Posted by trueblue0100

    Those loses? Your grammar is as intelligent as your mindset. Allow me to remind you; Duke PLAYED in a bowl game, UNC was banned. You may want to consider putting a little thought into your criticism before spewing it.

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 4:57 p.m.

    Tie ballgame inside two minutes to play with a 1st goal and lose by 2 TD's? and you want to take... View More

    — Posted by tdouble232323

    I suppose your Heels have never lost a close game in the final minutes.......these are young adult athletes trying to learn and make themselves better. Get over yourself and remember that this isn't about you. Nobody cares about your opinion.

  • Rollin Like PDoobie Dec 28, 4:51 p.m.

    Geeze, guys, I think there WERE more positives in the game, and Duke woulda/coulda/shoulda won... View More

    — Posted by StunGunn

    JG, you are the most relevant UNC fan I have never met! Love the way you support these athletes, UNC or not! Folks, take notes from Mr. Gunn, he is a true fan. Well said brother.

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 4:23 p.m.

    If you are a partisan fan who prefers a team other than Duke, it's easy enough to talk trash... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Solid analysis Ken. Looking across the board we just haven't cashed in with wins in Bowls in the ACC over the years. VT is especially bad in bowl game wins. Most of the time, they play like they are satified just to be there. Coaches need to coach them up, and make it a huge deal.

  • 903 mens national championships Dec 28, 4:04 p.m.

    and no, I don't pretend Duke hasn't been mediocre themselves but they haven't pretended that going to the Belk Bowl is the top of the mountain either. Until you're competing for BCS appearances, you really have nothing to brag about. Especially because schools like UNC and Duke compete for national championships in just about every sport except football.

  • 903 mens national championships Dec 28, 4:01 p.m.

    ^The sad thing about this place is that the ones that are loving that Duke lost are the ones that support the one program that cheated their way to the "success" they've enjoyed over the last couple decades. What they call "success", most college football fans call mediocrity which doesn't even take into account how much cheating it took them to get what little they got.

  • Ken D. Dec 28, 3:49 p.m.

    If you are a partisan fan who prefers a team other than Duke, it's easy enough to talk trash about their football program in general, and this game in particular. In doing so, though, you should recognize that Duke's performance pretty much mirrors that of the entire ACC, including the other local teams.

    Duke was competitive, and had every opportunity to win. But they did what the ACC teams have done for years when the top of the mountain was in sight. They fell off. Quite simply, ACC teams have shown they can't finish. Even when they have more talent, or simply outplay their opponents from other BCS conferences, they find a way to lose in the end.

    So if this Duke team isn't relevant, neither is the ACC.

  • Banned by Sissies Dec 28, 3:04 p.m.

    Poor Kenny Meds. WRAL TOLD him to get in there and write something positive about puke choking away the only bowl game some have seen in a lifetime.

    Chuckles!

  • corey3rd2 Dec 28, 2:37 p.m.

    The big positive is that half the stadium was empty and at least 330 million Americans didn't watch the game on ESPN.

  • DUKE4EVER Dec 28, 2:37 p.m.

    Tie ballgame inside two minutes to play with a 1st goal and lose by 2 TD's? and you want to take... View More

    — Posted by tdouble232323

    Lots of positives, you are just too blind to see them.

    GO DUKE!!

  • Hokies94 Dec 28, 2:32 p.m.

    Duke had 4 TO's. Still they had their chances to win the game. One receiver dropped a pass that should have been a TD. Duke improved ther recruitment by obtaining this Bowl game too. Coach Cut is still one of the best in this business.

  • trueblue0100 Dec 28, 2:29 p.m.

    They lost and there are no victories in a loss. They choked when it mattered and that is why... View More

    — Posted by takeabathgreg

    UNC has lost the Belk Bowl More than any other team that has ever played in it.
    http://en.wikipe... View More

    — Posted by IB4DUKE

    How do those loses compare to the number of years it has taken for dook to even get to a bowl game? As for choking, you need to learn what that means. Choking is what dook's performance has been over the past 7 to 8 years in the NCAA tournamnet. Does Lehigh ring a bell? Do you remember their dismantling by Arizonz?

  • tdouble232323 Dec 28, 2:27 p.m.

    Tie ballgame inside two minutes to play with a 1st goal and lose by 2 TD's? and you want to take positives away from that? Sure Duke.

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