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  • Terkel Dec 28, 7:39 p.m.

    "And because of this, GOP governors who didn't like a larger federal government have turned over their health exchanges to the federal government. My taxes will go up despite their call for lower taxes." Lone Voice

    No, that tax you must blame on Obama. The majority apparently did not want 0bamacare and one option offered them was to have the Feds handle the exchange. 0's admin naturally was unprepared for this, and now they're scrambling. Watch this balloon in cost just like our lil ol Medicaid billing system at DHHS and for the same reasons: ineptitude giving way to crony "consultants".

  • GravyPig Dec 28, 5:42 p.m.

    "Your numbers are wrong, as has been pointed out by a previous poster. But you mention starving children. But according to liberals we have an epidemic of child obesity. So which is it? Are they starving or are they too fat? You can't have it both ways."

    You don't know which it is? How are you so sure that we can not have it both ways if you don't know?

    I would wager that the kids on welfare aren't obese, and the kids who aren't on welfare aren't starving. Yes he mentioned starving children, but did not say we have an epidemic of starving children. Wrong figures aside, why is this so hard to understand? Can you not have children starving while others are getting fat?

  • WhatWereOnceVicesAreNowHabits Dec 28, 4:06 p.m.

    RE : Food Stamps are not about hunger, they are about income supplimentation.

    Supposed to be a helping hand not a way of life,,,

  • JustOneGodLessThanUU Dec 28, 4:00 p.m.

    I'm usually a big proponent of a market-based economy. The main exception being agriculture. I don't mind tax money going to support individual farmers (not big Ag companies).

    The food supply is just too important to national security to not have some government involvement.

    The stand off over this bill sounds kinda dumb to me. If Congress can't get together on something this simple, we're in a lot of trouble.

  • aetius476 Dec 28, 3:33 p.m.

    Did you know that you can now own 2 cars and still be eligible for Food Stamps?

    Also, you only need to qualify annually. So, if you happen to win the lottery, or get a high paying job one month after qualifying, you can collect for 11 months, regardless of your income or assets.

    Since the money comes from DC, it is in the states' and local interest to promote and get as many people on Food Stamps as possible. The diligence of checking eligibility is less than thorough. More signed up, the more federal money flows into the area.

    After all its Free! Picked fresh off Obama's money tree on the south lawn...

    The whole thing is just a huge scam, and way of wasting the taxpayers' money in the name of false compassion....

  • aetius476 Dec 28, 3:17 p.m.

    Dairy subsidies are the least of the issues with the "Farm Bill". 80% of the expenditures in the bill are for Food Stamps. Food Stamps are no longer an AG program, but is now a type of welfare. They are an income supplimentation program. It is part of the transfer of wealth scheme.

    Food Stamps have expanded to now cover over 45 million people (about a 30% increase during Obama's tenure). The new farm bill would expand the program further, increase benefits, and loosen eligibility requirements.

    Food Stamps are not about hunger, they are about income supplimentation.

    Instead of spending income to buy food, recipients can spend income on rent, car payments, cell phone, cable, booze, cigs, lottery, etc. Its simply a form of welfare....

  • Terkel Dec 28, 3:13 p.m.

    Oh, I see now how it works. A few people don't feel like paying for it but the govt decided they need it. They force other people to pay so the few can keep spending on wants, not needs. Just like 0bamacare.

  • exador7 Dec 28, 2:34 p.m.

    Yep,, It comes down to the high heads are just too far away from reality of the real world life.. They need four year terms with out re election.. And I will decide who gets a raise,, WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!

  • Terkel Dec 28, 2:00 p.m.

    What I don't understand is how people see this as anything other than corporate welfare. Let the prices rise and let the milk spoil on the shelves.

    They could also just take this 'phony crisis' law off the books, but then they'd get no subsidies.

  • cfuller1971 Dec 28, 1:27 p.m.

    The accusation that GOPers are cultists is laughable. All who worship at the altar of government, are cultists. This includes Republicans and Democrats and Independents.

    The problem here IS government. These policies, shrewdly disguised as helpful to the farmer, are nothing but ploys to get those ignorant of economics to vote for those who vote for this largesse. The fact is all this does is distort prices. By not renewing the provisions in the farm bill, they are simply trading one market distortion for a more nefarious market distortion.

    Where does the government get this money to purchase milk to "prevent prices from falling below certain levels"? It first has to tax or borrow (another form of tax). So, most of us are having money extracted from us at multiple points just to enjoy milk. This is immoral at its most basic level. What's wrong with something being more affordable for the people who can least afford it? This is not a legitimate function of government.

  • kmanc4s Dec 28, 12:40 p.m.

    The government needs to get out of the milk business and other agricultural enterprises.

  • RM24 Dec 28, 12:20 p.m.

    And people wonder why I don't vote Republican...
    Lone Voice in the Wilderness

    Clearly cause you blame them for all the worlds problems.

  • Familymatters Dec 28, 12:14 p.m.

    So basically, dairy producers would hold the government hostage to higher prices, simply because the government would be required to pay the higher price...Sounds like a win for farmers, and a lose for government, just like always.

  • My Two Cents Dec 28, 11:49 a.m.

    Really, we need to do away with these old support programs for farmers anyway. I like the American Farmer, but it should be free market. Im sure Dairy farms would survive well without the layers of support.

  • Relic Dec 28, 11:28 a.m.

    "So how y'all know which kids have parents are on welfare and how do you know what their cell phone bills are?"
    Yes, as a matter of fact I do. It's call "asking" or "listening". If a person (regardless of race because I have seen just as many "white" people scam assistance programs as persons of color) comes into an office and it is apparent that they weigh well over 250 pounds on a 5'8" frame, it's apparent they're not starving. If they have a pair of name brand jeans, a heavy coat, a designer wool hat, designer sunglasses and designer boots then it is apparent that they have a way to stay warm. If they are driving a full size SUV with custom tires and rims on it or a jacked up 4X4 truck with $2000 of tires on it then it's apparent they have money for gas and a vehicle. If they have a cellphone then they either pay for it or it's provided to them as an "Obama phone" (street term, not mine). No delusion there.

  • RM24 Dec 28, 11:06 a.m.

    Half the problem is people like you who live in a delusional world and don't want to pay the taxes required for us to live in a civilized country.
    Grand Union

    That's a laughable comment. Because you knowledge on that subject is zero. No clue how much taxes I pay, and no clue how many donations I make. But ignore there are problems that will fix it. Attacking me makes you feel better and fixes it right? Maybe at least you feel better. if the parents don't have enough intelligence to know the kids at risk of "frostbite" or dying from "malnutrition" do you think giving them money will help them? No reason with all the help out there to allow your children to frEeze to death or die from malnutrition! Reallyn think about that. No amount of $ can help someone that ignorant.

  • Grand Union Dec 28, 10:50 a.m.

    "How many of yall have been in the local high/middle school and watch all these "poor" "starving" kids walking around on I-phones or other cell phones with $100 a month phone bills?"

    So how y'all know which kids have parents are on welfare and how do you know what their cell phone bills are?

    " But only those who "need" it should get it."

    So we should wait until cases of frostbite or severe malnutrition, perhaps a dead kid or two before deciding they "need" help?

    " Then we will be back on the track of correcting the problems!"

    Half the problem is people like you who live in a delusional world and don't want to pay the taxes required for us to live in a civilized country.

  • RM24 Dec 28, 10:46 a.m.

    It's a bipartisan bill, but that's not good enough for despicable House Republicans who want deeper cuts to food stamps and school nutrition programs.
    hp277

    And while democrats ignore there are clear problems to be addressed then we get no where. And the name calling makes it even harder to work together. So keep name calling if you want to keep meeting strong opposition to your ideas! The answer is no extreme idea from either side will work!

  • RM24 Dec 28, 10:41 a.m.

    Did you know that 80% of the people on food stamps are children? What would you have them do, starve? Or would you rather put 6-year-olds to work?
    hp277

    Yeah the concept of not having children you can afford is rediculous aint it. I mean as humans were no better than animals and can't fight the urge to make babies right? And we also don't know where they come from and it just happens right? Surely if sex is that important then buy a form of birth control device. If you can't afford those and food then I guess you have to decide as to what's more important. Throwing more money to wasteful spenders is not the answer. Some would be hungry if they had a million $s given to them!

  • RM24 Dec 28, 10:24 a.m.

    How many of yall have been in the local high/middle school and watch all these "poor" "starving" kids walking around on I-phones or other cell phones with $100 a month phone bills? Yet can't afford food? Until this stops, which it never will, you not gonna get everyone to say "poor kids". And yes you do know who is "poor pitiful me", all they have to do is open their mouth and you hear them speaking the same sad story of their parents. How many choose to buy alcohol or cigarettes vs food. You can't ignore these issues and just keep throwing money at it. If they need food then please help them. But only those who "need" it should get it. Then we will be back on the track of correcting the problems!

  • RM24 Dec 28, 10:17 a.m.

    Most households with small food budgets purchase low quality foods (like chips, etc.) that are lower in cost but are not healthy. Higher quality food (like fruits and vegetables) are more expensive and outside the budgets of these households. Due to this we have many households with food insecurity issues that are also facing child obesity problems.

    Some figures on food insecurity in the U.S. is provided at the link below. North Carolina has a 17.1% food insecurity rate - http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/hunger-facts/hunger-and-poverty-statistics.aspx#
    westernwake1
    Yet the US gives millions to countries that hate us. Billions actually to feed countries that despise us. Until our government corrects that There's no need to complain about our hungry children. All these food studies are fine but really doesn't show the amount of $ many families waste on unnecessary things vs food.

  • Rebelyell55 Dec 28, 10:06 a.m.

    I still remember the days when every other family had a milk cow. Looks like the old days will be coming back.

  • Rebelyell55 Dec 28, 10:04 a.m.

    If they try not to be too greedy, they may be able to avoid the collaspe that will follow the price increase, but alas, we know that won't happen in our me, me, me, culture.

  • heisenberg Dec 28, 10:01 a.m.

    Another example of what happens when the government gets involved in private industry.

  • lopo Dec 28, 9:14 a.m.

    milk farmers want thier welfare [subsidy] also. baccer farmers in nc can be proud- they had both repubs and demo's on board to give them thier welfare tobaccer buyout retirement money., at the expsense of all us taxpayers -- by the way. wildpig777

    With all the free handouts by us tax payers I would think the ones who should get it is the ones that produce our food!

  • lwe1967 Dec 28, 9:02 a.m.

    Our do nothing Congress! We had the chance to get rid of the people who do absolutely nothing and we put them right back in! What do you expect!

  • wildpig777 Dec 28, 8:33 a.m.

    milk farmers want thier welfare [subsidy] also. baccer farmers in nc can be proud- they had both repubs and demo's on board to give them thier welfare tobaccer buyout retirement money., at the expsense of all us taxpayers -- by the way.

  • amdriver12 Dec 28, 8:12 a.m.

    Actually families that are on TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) receive an average of about $4.30 a day for food? Not for each person in their family, but their whole family.
    And actually it has been shown it is easier to purchase bigger amounts of highly processed food with little nutritional value than to buy fresh produce in the super markets. That is if people even live near a super market. Food deserts are big cause of people buying food with poor nutrition, the produce is just not available in many areas, those areas usually being lower-income. It's not a coincidence.

  • Uhavenoclu Dec 27, 7:55 p.m.

    Oh no my chocolate milk will be almost as much as a teaspoon of starbucks.What is the world coming to"?!

  • Gatsby Dec 27, 7:44 p.m.

    It has not been that long ago that a hungry & thirsty 6 yo did work to help the family survive. Watch an old 1930's movie and see the children of that era doing an amazing thing called "chores".

    Of course back then the Govt did not encourage the manta we have today "Watch the mailbox"

  • davidgnews Dec 27, 7:40 p.m.

    It's getting hard to keep track of price support programs vs poison pill legislation these days.

  • Ripcord Dec 27, 7:30 p.m.

    "Most households with small food budgets purchase low quality foods (like chips, etc.) that are lower in cost but are not healthy. Higher quality food (like fruits and vegetables) are more expensive and outside the budgets of these households."

    If they can afford junk food they can afford apples and oranges. There is also a TON of food assistance out there and there is no excuse for not being able to get decent food.

  • westernwake1 Dec 27, 7:11 p.m.

    "But you mention starving children. But according to liberals we have an epidemic of child obesity. So which is it? Are they starving or are they too fat? You can't have it both ways." - Ripcord

    Actually you can. Most households with small food budgets purchase low quality foods (like chips, etc.) that are lower in cost but are not healthy. Higher quality food (like fruits and vegetables) are more expensive and outside the budgets of these households. Due to this we have many households with food insecurity issues that are also facing child obesity problems.

    Some figures on food insecurity in the U.S. is provided at the link below. North Carolina has a 17.1% food insecurity rate -

    http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/hunger-facts/hunger-and-poverty-statistics.aspx#

  • Ripcord Dec 27, 6:51 p.m.

    "Did you know that 80% of the people on food stamps are children? What would you have them do, starve? Or would you rather put 6-year-olds to work?" - hp277

    Your numbers are wrong, as has been pointed out by a previous poster. But you mention starving children. But according to liberals we have an epidemic of child obesity. So which is it? Are they starving or are they too fat? You can't have it both ways.

  • moserrosa Dec 27, 6:49 p.m.

    No one wants to put a 6 year old to work. But his lazy mom and dad need to get off their rear ends and provide for them.

  • westernwake1 Dec 27, 6:45 p.m.

    "What an outrageous, ill-informed statement. Did you know that 80% of the people on food stamps are children? What would you have them do, starve? Or would you rather put 6-year-olds to work?" - hp277

    While I support food stamps as a short term mechanism to help families, your comment does beg the question - Why are mothers having children when they can not afford to feed them?

    P.S. You are wrong about the 80% being children. '76% of SNAP households included a child, an elderly person, or a disabled person. These vulnerable households receive 83% of all SNAP benefits.

    'Nearly half (47 percent) were under age 18 and another 8 percent were age 60 or older. Working-age women represented 28 percent of the caseload, while working-age men represented 17 percent. [USDA.gov, September 2011]'

  • hp277 Dec 27, 6:29 p.m.

    "Food stamps should not exist. It is despicable for the Government to steal from some people to support the beggar class." whatelseisnew

    What an outrageous, ill-informed statement. Did you know that 80% of the people on food stamps are children? What would you have them do, starve? Or would you rather put 6-year-olds to work?

  • westernwake1 Dec 27, 6:18 p.m.

    The entire problem is that the government is buying milk and competing with the private market. There is no need for this type of absurd price support mechanism.

    The harsh reality is that many of these dairy farmers should not be in business and are only propped up by 'welfare' payments from the government. There is a glut of milk in the U.S. and the supply is greater than demand. The free market should decide winners & losers in the dairy market -- not the government.

  • lwe1967 Dec 27, 6:16 p.m.

    No nothing Congress! An 11% approval rating. All the emcumbant should have been voted out! Now Reid is calling Boehner a dictator. If anyone is a dictator, it is read, the little Napoleon!

  • whatelseisnew Dec 27, 6:14 p.m.

    Oh and the federal government has NO business being involved in education. NONE.

  • whatelseisnew Dec 27, 6:13 p.m.

    "It's a bipartisan bill, but that's not good enough for despicable House Republicans who want deeper cuts to food stamps and school nutrition programs."

    Food stamps should not exist. It is despicable for the Government to steal from some people to support the beggar class. The price supports should be ended. At least that way EVERY person (except the stampers) pays the same price for product. Borrowing money and taxing people makes the actual cost of the product unknown. What fun, as the little kiddies drink their milk, they do not know that they will pay for that milk the rest of their lives.

  • Mustange Dec 27, 6:05 p.m.

    well looks like i can live without milk! But wait untill the school systems get the bill for it.

  • farmkid Dec 27, 6:05 p.m.

    80% of the Farm Bill is food stamps. When is the media going to start telling that story. That's when the pressure will really be put on Congress to get some work done.

  • hp277 Dec 27, 5:48 p.m.

    Once again, the blame goes to House Republicans for failing to act.

    The Senate passed the Farm Bill in June 21 by a vote of 64-35, including 16 'yes' votes from Republicans.

    It's a bipartisan bill, but that's not good enough for despicable House Republicans who want deeper cuts to food stamps and school nutrition programs.

  • oleguy Dec 27, 5:40 p.m.

    Setting milk prices,,, The farmer gets about .50 to .80 cents a gallon,,, the middle guy gets 2.00 and the local corner quick stop sells it for 5.00,, How does the farm Bill help anyone,,

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