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johnny2times Dec 20, 2:00 p.m.
I guess I will say it. Good job DPD on catching these criminals. More people are more concerned about comparing stats to Durham...my question is who cares?!!! I think you all are missing the point here.
Phyxius1 Dec 20, 1:01 p.m.
How does Baltimore figure into the crime rates in NC counties?? Nice statistics though and sure to change outside Durham this yr from the increasing crime headlines lately..
lb27608 Dec 20, 12:33 p.m.
Oops - my decimals are off in that last post. That's what I get for posting on the fly. The correct violent crime rates per 100K for those cities are
Rocky Mount: 977.6
Charlotte: 606.4 Raleigh 421.5
lb27608 Dec 20, 12:16 p.m.
"Also, per capita based on population, Durham has more violent crime than Charlotte or Baltimore. Check out the FBI stats."
Way, way wrong about Baltimore. From 2011 FBI Uniform Crime data (the latest that's available):
Baltimore: 8,885 VCs, pop. of 626,848 = 14.2 VCs per 100K
Durham: 1,707 VCs, pop. of 231,225 = 7.4 VCs per 100K
Here are a few other places, just for comparison:
Rocky Mount: 0.98
Charlotte: 0.61 Raleigh: 0.42 No data was provided for Greensboro.
Crime in Durham for 2012 is trending lower than 2011, too, so that rate should drop a bit when UCR data for this year become available in 2013.
Phyxius1 Dec 20, 11:31 a.m.
Often, the stories end up showing that the violent crime in Cary, Raleigh, Apex are from people from OUTSIDE those cities. Common_Sensey
Can you post proof of that? A quick check of the man stabbed in Apex recently was by Apex residents, Man shot in Raleigh Apt complex..no suspect.. Teens charged in kidnapping/Robbery in Raleigh are from Raleigh, Two wounded in Raleigh stabbing.no suspect..Two out of 4 confirmed are Raleigh criminals or 50% from just 4 recent stories. I would like to see your proof of that statement of " Often " suspects or convicted person of said crime is from Durham and Fayetteville..I didn't see any...But on the other hand we could say all the unsolved crimes from Durham are from people outside the area also without proof...
Common_Sensey Dec 20, 11:09 a.m.
"Its funny how all the Durham bashers flock to stories about how bad the area is and turn a blind eye to rising crime in the other areas."
Often, the stories end up showing that the violent crime in Cary, Raleigh, Apex are from people from OUTSIDE those cities. Such as from Durham & Fayetteville. In Raleigh, the majority of the violent & drug crime happens downtown near S. Saunders St, Poole Rd and in North Raleigh around Mini City. And what do those areas have in common?? Not just low income & education levels....
Phyxius1 Dec 20, 11:07 a.m.
Look up the term "Durham gangs" on the Internet, check out the videos. It's disgusting. Some parts of Durham just need to be raided by the National Guard, torn down, and rebuilt with new, higher class people.
Funny you say that ....Per Gangnet 2011.....Durham has 40 gangs by node and Wake county has 99. So if Wake county is larger in size but has double the gang numbers it must mean Wake is as bad or worse than Durham per your statement....
Read the info on http://www.ncgccd.org/pdfs/gangs2011.pdf and its an eye opener on the gangs in NC alone...Its out of date by a yr but still shocking to see....
Phyxius1 Dec 20, 10:58 a.m.
Its funny how all the Durham bashers flock to stories about how bad the area is and turn a blind eye to rising crime in the other areas. Look at the headlines and see how bad ALL the counties are getting lately . Raleigh is hitting the headlines more so than Durham lately, killings in Apex, stabbings in Cary and so on. We all can look at the books from yrs back and say Durham is the worst but lets look at the recent crime stats and see who is quickly rising to the same level. Take at look at the Crime stats listed for each county in the links above and look at all the crime reported this month in Raleigh alone. Dec 18th alone is a very active day there in crime and shootings very frequent. The rise in crime is everywhere and its getting disturbing!
Yes I live in Durham and have NEVER been a victim of crime in 24yrs but have been 3 times while visiting Raleigh and buddy robbed at gunpoint there in the last 10 yrs...Those are the stats I look at lately.
Common_Sensey Dec 20, 10:48 a.m.
"There are good and bad parts of every city - you've just got to be smart about where you go.
My point exactly, and Durham has more "bad" areas than good. Go talk to a Probation Officer or Durham cop, they'll tell you there are certain Durham neighborhoods where you shouldn't even stop at a red light at night because you'll get robbed. Funny how Raleigh doesn't seem to have any of those. Look up the term "Durham gangs" on the Internet, check out the videos. It's disgusting. Some parts of Durham just need to be raided by the National Guard, torn down, and rebuilt with new, higher class people.
gr8212 Dec 20, 10:39 a.m.
WRAL, you don't "ROB" a home, you rob a person. The correct wording of the crime is "BURGLARIZED" a home. Once again terrible reporting.....
68_dodge_polara Dec 20, 10:37 a.m.
In case anyone doesn't know Watts neighborhood is where the owner Kabab & Curry House was found murdered last week.
hp277 Dec 20, 10:27 a.m.
"Seems like the whole city of Durham lives in a constant crime wave these days."
Baloney. I've lived in Durham 15 years and have never been a victim of a crime. There are good and bad parts of every city - you've just got to be smart about where you go.
68_dodge_polara Dec 20, 10:11 a.m.
iknowjack, I've lived in Durham for 15 years and I wish I could say the same.
Common_Sensey Dec 20, 10:01 a.m.
"I've lived in Durham over 30 years and have never been victimized by a crime or even know anyone who has! Pretty dumb, right? Must be doing something wrong, or maybe I just don't have the brilliance and wisdom of your great self!"
Jack, your comment makes no sense whatsoever. There are plenty of people who've lived in Compton or Detroit and have never been victims of crime. That doesn't hide the fact that anyone moving to the Triangle from out of state has to merely watch the local news for a few weeks and see how bad Durham is. The supposed "bad reputation" is well earned I'm afraid. Also, per capita based on population, Durham has more violent crime than Charlotte or Baltimore. Check out the FBI stats.
JohnnyVoodoo Dec 20, 10:00 a.m.
I was born and raised in Durham, over at Watts. If you're REALLY from the Bull City, you'll know where i'm talkin' about. Even as a white man, I can rap about my hometown and it's all good. In all my years here, only had a 10-speed bike stolen and my car broken into once. Crime is in every city, no matter where you live. In this instance, the story is about Durham, I don't know about Cary, Apex, or those other areas. But I know somebody got killed in Apex this week, so I guess Apex and Durham got something in common then, right?
iknowjack Dec 20, 9:38 a.m.
Wow, Common_Sensey, you're so appropriately self-named. How awesome you must be. For instance, look how dull and unobservant I am. I've lived in Durham over 30 years and have never been victimized by a crime or even know anyone who has! Pretty dumb, right? Must be doing something wrong, or maybe I just don't have the brilliance and wisdom of your great self!
Common_Sensey Dec 20, 9:30 a.m.
"My name is Rob, cuz dats what I do"
That's really funny JohnnyVoodoo! Of course it could also describe Greensboro, Fayetteville, Winston, Charlotte...but not Cary, Apex, Smithfield, Clayton. Wonder what the difference is? :-)
Common_Sensey Dec 20, 9:27 a.m.
"Good job, Durham PD. These are probably repeat criminals on their own personal crime wave"
Seems like the whole city of Durham lives in a constant crime wave these days.
tim3239 Dec 20, 9:01 a.m.
good job men keep up the good work
hp277 Dec 20, 8:57 a.m.
Good job, Durham PD. These are probably repeat criminals on their own personal crime wave.
JohnnyVoodoo Dec 20, 8:45 a.m.
My name is Rob, cuz dats what I do.
chillin in da neighborHood and hangin' wid my crew
last night i got itchy and needed some dough
so i phoned up a few of my peeps that i know
we cruised down fayetteville and hit a crib on Wortley Drive
but we had to split cuz 5.0 would soon arrive
jettin down the road, carrying the load, had to toss it out the window blue lights in my mirror and wouldn't you know after stealing all that stuff for what i lusted Durham P.D. went 10-72 on me and now i'm busted. ....word up.
Glock07 Dec 20, 8:38 a.m.
Put them in jail and keep them there.
JohnnyVoodoo Dec 20, 8:27 a.m.
Welcome to the Bull City,baby.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2014-06-24 16:03:36