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  • JustOneGodLessThanU Dec 26, 2012

    Common ground? Can we all agree that mental & prison background checks should be made before anyone can buy a gun anywhere in the U.S.?

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 26, 2012

    AND dEMOCRATS DO NOT HIDE BEHIND ARSENALS.
    piene2

    But you have no problem with a doctor killing 26 unborn children. Crazy man shoots up a bunch of people, take guns away, which you have a choice to own or not. Doctor kills 26 kids, its a choice to have him do it. And death row inmates need to be spared as well. Interesting how the liberal mind works.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 26, 2012

    AND dEMOCRATS DO NOT HIDE BEHIND ARSENALS.
    piene2

    Nope you just hide behind petitions and liberal guilt

  • SmokeWagon Dec 24, 2012

    ..."Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered.- unbroken..."

    "ok with 20 children being murdered..??? REALLY...??? I am still amazed that you communist democrats are disproportionately venting your anger at a rifle and ammunition rather than the REAL problem of failed security in schools, time and time again...and when someone suggests a way to combat these failures you all squall like a bunch of stuck cowardly pigs.....!!!!! ....but WAIT...your Nomobama and lapdog media will tell you EXACTLY how to react shortly.......!!!!!!

  • SmokeWagon Dec 24, 2012

    ..."AND dEMOCRATS DO NOT HIDE BEHIND ARSENALS...."

    Yea...you are right...liberal cowards are quite happy to relie on others and are quite happy to "contract out" their own and their families safety and security to a 911 cell phone service and a government employee that is 10 minutes away eating donuts and drinking coffee...!!! Yea..don't worry, criminals are likely willing to let you find your cell phone and make a phone call or two.....!!!!

  • piene2 Dec 21, 2012

    Whoops, sorry, I accidentally typed that in capitols lock and was in the middle of fixing it.

  • piene2 Dec 21, 2012

    "Completely untrue characterization of people you are opposed to. The difference is that Republicans don't hide behind murdered children to push a social engineering agenda.
    Ripcord"

    AND dEMOCRATS DO NOT HIDE BEHIND ARSENALS.

  • Unbroken Dec 20, 2012

    "Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered.- unbroken

    They aren't.

    But they're likewise not ok with a suggestiong 'solution' that takes peoples rights way while not actually helping at all, which is what he democrats are suggesting.

    A reactionary bad law in response to a horrible incident isn't a good thing.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    junkmail5"

    A rational response. Thank you junkmail.

  • Ripcord Dec 20, 2012

    "Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered. Guess as long as it wasn't their kid, it doesn't really matter." - Unbroken

    Completely untrue characterization of people you are opposed to. The difference is that Republicans don't hide behind murdered children to push a social engineering agenda.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 20, 2012

    Why are these people suddenly afraid and scared to death? There has been danger lurking all around them every day. Why now? When President Kennedy was killed, why not then instead of now? None of us are safe anywhere, not even your own home. People are breaking in people homes while you are there. That is not safe. Just pray for the Lord will hear.

  • teddyspaghetti Dec 20, 2012

    sad fact....This year 446 school age children have been shot in Chicago, and 62 have died. There has been NO push from the left for gun control resulting from the carnage in Chicago. Odd, don’t you think? By the way, Chicago has some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    Most criminals don't have the fortitude to use the weapon the brandish, let alone know how to. They think that society will bend over and give them what they want so they don't think about having to use it. CCW's are the more prepared in most scenarios, thats why you read nad hear on the news about them surviving the ordeal.

  • junkmail5 Dec 20, 2012

    Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered.- unbroken

    They aren't.

    But they're likewise not ok with a suggestiong 'solution' that takes peoples rights way while not actually helping at all, which is what he democrats are suggesting.

    A reactionary bad law in response to a horrible incident isn't a good thing.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    If you did they would probably be mad at you for shooting someone who was just trying to express their feelings

    Yeah, lol. MAybe the crazy guy swinging the axe just wanted to show them how to chop down a tree?!?

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 20, 2012

    YOU don't doesn't mean it never happens because it happens a lot.

    Ripcord

    Praying that the criminal don't beat you to the draw first. You know the criminals always come prepared.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 20, 2012

    Another example of loaded guns in the wrong hands that have had no training whatsoever. Pray for these new gun owners that no tragic will ever occur because they just HAD to buy a gun and put bullets in it. Pray for any children that happens to be around these people.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered. Guess as long as it wasn't their kid, it doesn't really matter.
    Unbroken

    They arent OK with it, but they arent flying off the handle like you enlightened liberals tend do about everything. Please try and keep up. They are trying to work within the Constitution so they dont punish the innocent and law abiding. Something you liberals could take a few notes on.

  • piene2 Dec 20, 2012

    "I hope you do not decide to strap on your six shooter and Buscadaro and shoot their guts out. piene2 Nah, just let them be the victims that they want to be, we pro gun nuts don't have to save you ya know.
    fungod12000"

    The last thing in the world I would want if I was in a tight place would be some National Rifle Association Rambo want to be Yahoo trapping me in a deadly cross fire. Please, please, please do not "help" me.

  • Combat MP Dec 20, 2012

    I have read most of the blogs for and against gun control. Many saying this is the worst case of school violence with the most students slain by one person because he had a semi-automatic weapon. Whether the rifle was used or the handguns is not relevant. What is, is the fact this shooter had mental issues and would acheive his objective regardless. If you think "assault" weapons bans would stop this you are sadly mistaken. Perform a Google search of Bath, Michigan School disaster in 1927. And you will see the guns didn't cause this, a mentally disturbed/evil person did. The death count in Bath was 38 students, 2 teachers, and four adults injuring 58 others. We need to figure out why the urge to harm and kill others has increased and how we can stop it and/or prevent such events as Newtown, Columbine, and Aurora.

  • superman Dec 20, 2012

    Remember how well prohibition worked. Ended up that the state decided they wanted to get some of that money and sell liquor themselves. It is always about money.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    Nah, just let them be the victims that they want to be, we pro gun nuts don't have to save you ya know.
    fungod12000

    If you did they would probably be mad at you for shooting someone who was just trying to express their feelings

  • Ripcord Dec 20, 2012

    "the ignorant comment that you keep a handgun for protection is ridiculous. How many people does anyone know that actually has had to use one for this reason?"

    I know 2 people personally who successfully used handguns for self defense. Just because YOU don't doesn't mean it never happens because it happens a lot.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    Than those large magazine glocks should be banned as well. Also, the AR-15 has a muzzle velocity of 3200 feet per second. The glock has 1230 per second. They are much more powerful. Perhaps if the shooter did not have an AR-15 he may of had much more trouble shooting his way through the front door of the school Bill Brasky

    Its not about fps= feet per second, its the energy in foot pounds which makes the damage, and the size of the bullet( wieght, design, cooefficient, etc.) the 9mm round is bigger in diameter than a .223, covers more space so it will make a bigger hole, more damage. Any of the guns dude had would have gotten him in, the AR being the weakest to break glass.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    It’s kind of amusing that the very people so determined to remove these firearms know so very little about them but yet feel qualified deciding whether or not they need to be banned.
    Ole Glory

    You dont have to know all the facts or be informed when you are driven by raw emotion

  • YA RECKON Dec 20, 2012

    RE : No its building a proper levee so you don't get flooded yet again.

    There it is,,, Opposition / Resistance to an opposing force

    Yeah right , Instead of actually piling up sandbags to "prevent" the water from "rushing in" these liberal left wing wackos would rather drain the ocean.

  • junkmail5 Dec 20, 2012

    Than those large magazine glocks should be banned as well- Bill Brasky

    Why? It takes literally a couple seconds to swap mags anyway.

    Also, the AR-15 has a muzzle velocity of 3200 feet per second. The glock has 1230 per second. They are much more powerful- Bill Brasky

    once again you're showing your ignorance. Muzzle velocity at short range doesn't make much difference.

    Muzzle velocity is important to insure your bullet still has enough power to do its job on targets 300 yards away.

    stuff 20 feet away is going to be just as dead at 1230 fps as 3200 fps.

    A shotgun slug has a muzzle velocity around 1600 fps but I'd MUCH rather take a hit from an AR-15 .223 round than a shotgun slug.

    Serioiusly, go learn something about guns.

    Perhaps if the shooter did not have an AR-15 he may of had much more trouble shooting his way through the front door of the school,
    Bill Brasky

    unless the lock was 300 meters away when he did it, no, it wouldn't have made any real difference.

  • Unbroken Dec 20, 2012

    Still trying to figure out why repugs are actually okay with 20 children being murdered. Guess as long as it wasn't their kid, it doesn't really matter.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    Switzerland, Finland, Sweeden, Norway, France, Austria, Germany, Iceland, etc all have gun ownership above 30% (some WAY above 30).
    junkmail5

    I was stationed in Germany for 5 years and from what I understand its quite a chore to get a weapon to hunt with. You basically have to take a course equivilant to a forest ranger's training, which is fine, they are all about some conservation over there. As any good sportsmen should be. Im agreeing with you just throwing that little tidbit in there. Im addition one of the girls I dated over there father had a couple rifles and an old handgun his Nazi grandfather used. On what or who I dont know. I didnt ask.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 20, 2012

    have rushed to secure gun permits and buy weapons in the wake of the shooting deaths at a Connecticut elementary school last week.

    These are people that need God/Jesus in their life. Here they are afraid and have no idea how to use a loaded gun. They have not had no training, either. Good grief! they could fired a gun and harm or kill their own love one. What was they thinking? Meanwhile, the young man that did this in Connecticut, committed suicide. He is gone. Lord help us in these trying times.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    I hope you do not decide to strap on your six shooter and Buscadaro and shoot their guts out.
    piene2
    Nah, just let them be the victims that they want to be, we pro gun nuts don't have to save you ya know.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    I hope you do not decide to strap on your six shooter and Buscadaro and shoot their guts out.
    piene2

    I know right, its not like liberals have never become violent over their pet projects.

  • junkmail5 Dec 20, 2012

    Do you not know that the solution to too many guns in circulation is to buy more guns?
    piene2

    The problem is obviously not "too many guns" becuase crime in the US has been dropping for 30 years, while gun ownership has been climbing.

    Some even suggest those two are related.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    Hey hippie libs how about we ban jam bands, because I cant stand them and they make me want to hurt people. Interestingly enough the favorite jam band of hippies is called Wide Spread Panic. Isnt it ironic, dont ya think?

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    I hate it when gun owners use the terms "when the time comes, and hopefully it does not" or "I keep one just for protection, just in case..." and then follow it up by telling everyone to get informed. I don't have a problem with someone owning a gun. I grew up in the country, everyone went hunting and had guns (not in NC). Still, the ignorant comment that you keep a handgun for protection is ridiculous. How many people does anyone know that actually has had to use one for this reason? Since the number of gun casualties are less than half of deaths via car accident, likely noone. Say they are for sport or hobby or whatever but if you only keep a gun for reason of paranoia that "they are coming to get you" then realize you have about the same odds of your kid using it than defending yourself with it and those aren't odds I would be willing to risk. Get informed that the vast majority DO NOT own guns. Think outside of your small town

    Read the newspaper lately, its full of reasons and tim

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    Yes please get your guns and don't have access to them when you need it. You will still be dead.
    kbo80
    I always have access to my gun.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    there is always a black market for something. The criminal world always shops there, can find anything they want, and get better prices than we do, lol.

  • fungod12000 Dec 20, 2012

    OK. If all of the anti-gun people want assault weapons, large cap mags banned, go for it. That will stop the sale, but not those of us who already possess them. We didn't just start buying this week, we have been doing it for years. Practicing daily, learning more nad more on the uses, tactics, and survival. Ban them now,. make the world better/easier for me to survive. When the dogs eat, the weakest are eat last. I am prepared to survive, are you?

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    Remember the last time we thought about the children with Tipper Gore and the PMRC? They put warning labels on CDs, all that did was make people buy more of the CDs with dirty words. Libs never think their dumb plans all the way through.

  • Red Green Dec 20, 2012

    "No legal purchase means the source drys up for the criminals too." Grand Union

    Yeah maybe in a hundred years or so.

  • scooter13 Dec 20, 2012

    It is pretty ironic that our government wants to "ban" assault rifles, but sold thousands to the Mexican drug cartel (Fast & Furious). Our government just recently sold 20 F-16's to a Muslim Brotherhood country, Egypt. The Muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization by the way. What is wrong with this picture? Arming criminals and terrorists, but wanting to take away the rights of (most) law abiding citizens!!!! Wake up, America!!! (or soon to be spelled Amerika in honor of Communist bloc countries)

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    If you do not like guns do not buy one and leave the rest of us alone .
    conservativepatriot

    Like when they say "If you dont like gay marriage, dont get one!" But when you throw that kind of thinking back in their face they dont want to hear it. Liberals only care about their individual rights not anybody elses

  • Red Green Dec 20, 2012

    Argument: “AR-15's have 30 round clips and have a high muzzle velocity.” In fact nearly the same as the military.

    FACT: AR-15’s have a variety of magazines not just 30. The AR-15 has the SAME muzzle velocity as the M16 provided they both have the same length barrel.

    Argument: “ So they have way more firing power then pistols.”

    FACT: No they have “way more firing power” than SOME handguns. The .460 S&W and .500 S&W revolvers have over double the ft. lbs. of energy.

    It’s kind of amusing that the very people so determined to remove these firearms know so very little about them but yet feel qualified deciding whether or not they need to be banned.

  • frosty Dec 20, 2012

    I should not be saying this. Rather than ban guns why not have the TSA take over school security? A huge win for government unions and expansion of the power of government agencies. Just think of making going to school as much an pain as boarding an airliner. We can just print more money to pay for it all.

    The fact that the TSA agents are not armed and would not have stopped the school shooting is irrelevant. It is "doing something" and we could all "feel better".

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    The people on here protesting guns are the people waiting for them to be taken away so they can safley enter your home unanounced.
    conservativepatriot

    well when they do a lot of these folks think they can just hug the evil out of someone.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 20, 2012

    How many people does anyone know that actually has had to use one for this reason?.... Think outside of your small town.

    uncwox

    I grew up outside of Detroit, I know a lot of people who are here today because they owned a gun. When I was a kind I used to go on deliveries with my uncle and when we had to go to bad neighborhoods he wouldput his piece up on the dashboard for all to see. Ya know what? We never had a problem. Whats really sad is that he had to that in Detroit, a city that took liberals 50 years to kill. I also know a guy here in NC who had to shoot someone breaking into his home.

  • Da Toy Maker Dec 20, 2012

    "...
    Not everyone has as much trouble controlling their emotions as you do
    anderson"

    First of all, I would like to say it is Pointless trying to ban guns in the US. We already have a lot of them out there(legally & illegally owned). Banning any future sale of any weapon is useless.

    One very scary thing about us Americans though: We are certainly taking more drugs (prescription & Non) than any other country. We have far more kids in Retalins (?) than any other country.

    One point I can't argue with the Anti Gun cloud is that all the illegal guns were coming from some legal sales in some point. If anything, we really need to look into that and stop that. No, I have no idea how. Just saying.

  • junkmail5 Dec 20, 2012

    Just stop selling bullets!!
    ohheels1

    It's fairly easy to make your own

    (and lots of people already do)

  • Pretzel Logic Dec 20, 2012

    RE : the ignorant comment that you keep a handgun for protection is ridiculous. How many people does anyone know that actually has had to use one for this reason? "Since the number of gun casualties are less than half of deaths via car accident", likely noone.

    There's another one

  • Bill Brasky Dec 20, 2012

    "Glock pistols offer 33 round magazines and a high muzzle velocity.But then again 'muzzle velocity' is pretty irrelevant when shooting at people 10-20 feet away as most of these mass shootings are."

    Than those large magazine glocks should be banned as well. Also, the AR-15 has a muzzle velocity of 3200 feet per second. The glock has 1230 per second. They are much more powerful. Perhaps if the shooter did not have an AR-15 he may of had much more trouble shooting his way through the front door of the school,

  • turbo08 Dec 20, 2012

    Get informed that the vast majority DO NOT own guns. Think outside of your small town.- uncwox

    The majority of NC residents ARE registered gun owners so.....

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