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  • beachboater Dec 18, 6:29 p.m.

    I personally believe that Obama would like to ban all guns. That's one man's opinion. Agree or disagree, it won't bother me.

    My thoughts on the best way to prevent tragedies such as this is to arm school personnel. Earlier news articles said the principal was shot while chasing after the gunman. If she had been armed, she might have had a chance to stop this before it ever got started. Front office staff, janitorial staff, some teachers, properly trained on safely using a firearm would make a difference.

    If a certain professor at Virginia Tech had been armed, how many lives would have been saved? I think many.

    Think about it. And remember Kennesaw Georgia that required all houses to have a gun. Crime dropped to -0-. Who wants to break in a house when you know the homeowner has a gun.

    Towns down the road from Kennesaw saw an increase in crime. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

  • Mustange Dec 18, 6:08 p.m.

    We are turning into a socialist country. We want the government to tell us what we can, cannot, have or do more and more everyday.Just hold on it wont be long now and you will wake up one day and what happen to AMERICA.

  • meganmaxwell Dec 18, 4:44 p.m.

    Gun control does not mean disarmament! That's why we can't stand you people. Everything has to spell DOOM!! Do you really think the gov't would ban all guns???? Have some sense!!!

  • StuckHere Dec 18, 4:16 p.m.

    brianwilson1032: "Why is it crazy to have armed staffed that have had training to save lives."

    The absurdity of this statement cannot be grasped by those that have the second amendment drilled into their heads all their lives. From the outside world looking in, all we can do is shake our heads.

  • rocket Dec 18, 4:08 p.m.

    "Same reason I risk being hit by an intoxicated driver or someone on their cell phone. Because we don't have a choice. How's that. Try Excepting reality. No one can control every situation and to think so is infantile. Waking up every day is a risk. Life is full of risks and if you cannot handle it don’t look to others to make concessions because of your inability to handle reality."

    Best comment I have read today...

  • mxteam44 Dec 18, 3:47 p.m.

    Give the government and inch, and they'll take a mile. That's what I'm afraid of in all of this. If they end up banning all guns, then I guess I'm going to have to join the criminal element in the country, because I'm not going to hand over my few guns that I paid for legally, and sit here with my family and be a sitting duck for some crazed lunatic to come thru my back door. Period! End of story!!!!

  • Backpacker Dec 18, 3:33 p.m.

    "And why should we risk your hobby killing our kids when "God" tells you to shoot them?" Grand Union

    Same reason I risk being hit by an intoxicated driver or someone on their cell phone. Because we don't have a choice. How's that. Try Excepting reality. No one can control every situation and to think so is infantile. Waking up every day is a risk. Life is full of risks and if you cannot handle it don’t look to others to make concessions because of your inability to handle reality.

  • rocket Dec 18, 3:28 p.m.

    "And why should we risk your hobby killing our kids when "God" tells you to shoot them?"

    That's a really big if. Why don't we just give up all of our freedoms so that we can eliminate all of the variables? That's really what you are advocating for.

  • YA RECKON Dec 18, 3:16 p.m.

    brianwilson1032
    December 18, 2012 2:49 p.m

    Well Said,,,

  • Bill Brasky Dec 18, 3:06 p.m.

    "Right...tell your story to the people of Mexico (or almost any Central American country)...you know the ones where law abiding citizens are prohibited from owning any kind of gun BUT the drug cartels/criminals are better armed than the police or military."

    We are not Mexico. Mexico has a virtually nonexistent government that happens to be in the middle of a drug war. A better example would be virtually all modern day industrialized nations.

  • YA RECKON Dec 18, 3:05 p.m.

    The Value of US Citizenship : The United States has a long history of welcoming immigrants from all parts of the world. America values the contributions of immigrants who continue to enrich this country and preserve its legacy as a "land of freedom and opportunity".

    Deciding to become a U.S. citizen is one of the most important decisions in an individual’s life. If you decide to apply to become a U.S. citizen, you will be showing ("your commitment to the United States and your loyalty to its Constitution"). In return, you are "rewarded" with all the rights and privileges that are part of U.S. citizenship.

    Like many that enjoy the freedoms, rights and privileges, but pick apart the paper and history that makes it all possible.

    Our Highest Court ruled and Thankfully its their opinion that matters not yours. The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS is an individual right. It's in Our Constitution, If you don't like it find a country that has one you do like and go there.

  • Paladin2 Dec 18, 3:04 p.m.

    Grand Union, the second amendment is a constitutional right not a hobby as you call it. As affirmativediversity said, the liberals' answer is to take rights away from law abiding citizens to address criminal actions.

  • brianwilson1032 Dec 18, 2:49 p.m.

    People are complaining about assault rifles being a violent gun designed for destruction. It is true. All weapons are designed for destruction and devastation. A sword can be as destructive and kill just as many or more people than an ar-15 and it never runs out of ammo. A shot gun loaded with 5 rounds of buck shot equals 45 bullets/projectiles. 45 rounds with 5 trigger pulls. The problem lies with people. Once we accept that PEOPLE are the problem and stop trying to but a Band-Aid on the issue we may reach a solution that works. If the right PEOPLE had guns (Teachers & Staff) they would have had the lifesaving tools needed to stop the threat (PERSON aka BAD GUY).

    No one thinks it is crazy for facilities to have fire extinguishers, sprinklers, defibrillators, exit signs and panic bars on doors. Or to have First Aid & CPR trained individuals working at the facility. Why is it crazy to have armed staffed that have had training to save lives. Maybe there is already to much gun control.

  • Crumps Br0ther Dec 18, 2:29 p.m.

    Typical liberal response: He can't be an expert, everything he says goes against my emotions!

  • affirmativediversity Dec 18, 2:19 p.m.

    ". Yor really think taking away the right to own firearms will curb criminals from using guns to commit their crimes? Really?? "

    Yes it certainly would....for three simple reasons. Firstly nearly all guns held by criminals were at one time legally purchased. Cut of the source then you cut off most of their supply too. Secondly a shortage of guns will greatly increase the price on the black market, pricing them out of the reach of most petty criminals.....and lastly, most mass shooters were not criminals until they opened fire......... per Grand Union

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    Right...tell your story to the people of Mexico (or almost any Central American country)...you know the ones where law abiding citizens are prohibited from owning any kind of gun BUT the drug cartels/criminals are better armed than the police or military.

    Why does the progressive/liberal answer to everything involve TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING TO DESIRE YOUR IRE?

  • Grand Union Dec 18, 2:10 p.m.

    "Who really needs a minder to determine what they do or don’t need? As long as I own it within the confines of the law I fail to see how it is of anyone’s concern."

    Yeah if everyone did that we wouldn't be discussing the issue, but they don't, do they? And why should we risk your hobby killing our kids when "God" tells you to shoot them?

  • affirmativediversity Dec 18, 2:08 p.m.

    "I don't believe there is" any law that would have prevented the Connecticut shootings, Schroeder said."

    This statement is from a big pro ban/progressive liberal professor...BUT still he advocates using this horrible tragedy to further his political agenda.

    How about looking at laws that severely limit/almost completely curtail the involuntary commitment of individuals who are suffering a psychotic break...

    Its a complicated issue but lets face it we can't expect much from a state were they house the severely mentally ill with the intellectually disabled (like they are the same thing) all supervised by untrained/ non professional staff earning little more than minimum wage.

  • yellow_hat Dec 18, 2:04 p.m.

    "Cut of the source then you cut off most of their supply too. Secondly a shortage of guns will greatly increase the price on the black market, pricing them out of the reach of most petty criminals."

    Yah,this has worked so well with the drug trade.

  • yellow_hat Dec 18, 2:03 p.m.

    “reputable people do not have assault weapons nor do they feel a need to arm themselves. Assault weapons and hand guns have one purpose, that is to kill human beings.” bowens44

    I must disagree. I certainly consider myself "reputable", never committed a crime (well I do tend to drive too fast), never shot anyone, never shot at anyone, never had the desire to shoot at anyone, yet I have an AR-15. I have shot thousands of rounds from this rifle, all at targets. There are simply fun to shoot.

    Criminals will not obey the laws we have today, what makes you think they will obey new ones?

  • Grand Union Dec 18, 2:00 p.m.

    ". Yor really think taking away the right to own firearms will curb criminals from using guns to commit their crimes? Really??
    "

    Yes it certainly would....for three simple reasons. Firstly nearly all guns held by criminals were at one time legally purchased. Cut of the source then you cut off most of their supply too. Secondly a shortage of guns will greatly increase the price on the black market, pricing them out of the reach of most petty criminals.....and lastly, most mass shooters were not criminals until they opened fire.........

  • Grand Union Dec 18, 1:54 p.m.

    "A free society is an armed society. Show me one country that is under a dictatorship that allows it citizens to own firearms? Won't happen. That is why we have the second amendment."

    This is just complete paranoid nonsense......AK 47s were commonplace in Iraq under Saddam.......the regimes know that its not small arms that win rebellions, its Tanks and Helicopter gunships.
    And there are lots of countries equally as free as the US that have strict Gun controls and a better track record of civil rights than the US...........and much lower murder rates.

  • babedan Dec 18, 1:43 p.m.

    A free society is an armed society. Show me one country that is under a dictatorship that allows it citizens to own firearms? Won't happen. That is why we have the second amendment.

  • StuckHere Dec 18, 1:38 p.m.

    babedan: Ahhh...so you are saying the US is a safe place to be huh? With all the guns around there should be less gun crimes here than anywhere else, like Europe, Canada, Far East right?

  • Backpacker Dec 18, 1:25 p.m.

    “reputable people do not have assault weapons nor do they feel a need to arm themselves. Assault weapons and hand guns have one purpose, that is to kill human beings.” bowens44

    I do! Bear in mind that your comment is nothing but an opinion based on over sensitive feelings not logic or data. While you are entitled to your opinion in no way does that make them correct.

  • torchhappysean Dec 18, 1:22 p.m.

    "of course stricter gun laws will help prevent this kind of incident. What we should do, what we would do if we lived in a civilized nation is make it nearly impossible for a private citizen to get ammunition. Guns ARE the problem."
    bowens44..... Yor really think taking away the right to own firearms will curb criminals from using guns to commit their crimes? Really??

  • Backpacker Dec 18, 1:21 p.m.

    Who really needs an assault weapon capable of discharging hundreds of rounds? absolutecaniac69

    Who really needs a minder to determine what they do or don’t need? As long as I own it within the confines of the law I fail to see how it is of anyone’s concern.

  • mvenable Dec 18, 1:17 p.m.

    "Another problem are kids are being desenseitized to killing, with their video games, which most parents will get them at the age of what 8 or 9 or younger? That and they are not taught how to handle a gun or the dangers of it. How 'bout a mandatory class for all 10th graders to learn how to handle, shoot and care for a gun? Maybe if they learn what a gun will actually do, they will come to a better appreciation and understanding of it's power and some of this nonsense will stop."

    Right, because people that go on killing sprees don't know what's going to happen when they start shooting. Sane people with consciences son't go on killing sprees. How about we start killing off crazy people? That might actually fix something.

  • Pretzel Logic Dec 18, 1:14 p.m.

    RE : "Outlaw the possession of assault weapons. Owners must turn in their weapons or face a 5 year prison sentence.

    Create / pass a law that turns lawfull citizens in crimials by default,,, brilliant

  • Dogs_Rules Dec 18, 1:08 p.m.

    "Guns ARE the problem."

    Sorry folks, I gotta go. My gun just jumped out of its case, inserted its own clip, chambered a round all by itself and shot me in the foot.

  • mvenable Dec 18, 1:06 p.m.

    I'm a reputable person and I have an AR-15. Liberals want to turn this country into a bunch of sissies so they can feel better as they eat their tofu and wheatgrass. We're already halfway there. So you can rely on the police to write a report about how you and your family were killed by a bunch of criminals. I'll rely on myself, thanks.

  • Dogs_Rules Dec 18, 1:04 p.m.

    "reputable people do not have assault weapons nor do they feel a need to arm themselves. Assault weapons and hand guns have one purpose, that is to kill human beings."

    ?????????

  • Dogs_Rules Dec 18, 1:03 p.m.

    "Outlaw the possession of assault weapons. Owners must turn in their weapons or face a 5 year prison sentence. Offer $25,000 reward for information leading to discovery of said weapons.
    Who really needs an assault weapon capable of discharging hundreds of rounds?"

    ?????????

  • rationality Dec 18, 12:56 p.m.

    The Clinton ban on assault weapons didn't stop Columbine. Now there are conflicting reports on CNN's web site that the assault rifle in question was taken from the murderer's trunk (there is also a video of law enforcement taking a rifle from the trunk). It's difficult for a dead man to go back to his car to retrieve a weapon and fire. That being the case, the rifle wasn't used in the crime (he used only handguns that he reloaded). So, a lot of politicians who spoke out against assault rifles will have to open their mouths to take out their feet. Which, for many, is a day that ends in "-day".

  • bowens44 Dec 18, 12:53 p.m.

    'REPUTABLE PEOPLE IS NOT DOING NO SUCH THING.'

    reputable people do not have assault weapons nor do they feel a need to arm themselves. Assault weapons and hand guns have one purpose, that is to kill human beings.

  • JJRambo Dec 18, 12:52 p.m.

    An unarmed citizen without a choice is a subject. If you choose to be unarmed by choice you are choosing to be a potential victim.

  • bowens44 Dec 18, 12:50 p.m.

    death merchant apologist......of course stricter gun laws will help prevent this kind of incident. What we should do, what we would do if we lived in a civilized nation is make it nearly impossible for a private citizen to get ammunition. Guns ARE the problem.

  • rocket Dec 18, 12:49 p.m.

    "Outlaw the possession of assault weapons. Owners must turn in their weapons or face a 5 year prison sentence. Offer $25,000 reward for information leading to discovery of said weapons. "

    Are you going to offer up the cash to reimburse the owners?

  • babedan Dec 18, 12:40 p.m.

    Another problem are kids are being desenseitized to killing, with their video games, which most parents will get them at the age of what 8 or 9 or younger? That and they are not taught how to handle a gun or the dangers of it. How 'bout a mandatory class for all 10th graders to learn how to handle, shoot and care for a gun? Maybe if they learn what a gun will actually do, they will come to a better appreciation and understanding of it's power and some of this nonsense will stop.

  • Dogs_Rules Dec 18, 12:38 p.m.

    Let me also add that a number of foreigners have been involved in mass killings. So let’s include foreigners in the gun ban, Asian store owners in south-central and east L.A. are exempt, of course.

  • babedan Dec 18, 12:35 p.m.

    For those who want us to give up our weapons. Why don't you just gather in a place, have the President decree that he is outlawing guns, and come take them away? See how far down the road you get?

    By the Way, Did you know if you put all the individuals who have hunting licenses in Wisconson, Ohio, Illinois and Michigan, you'd have the 3rd largest ground army in the WORLD. Now combine the rest of the hunters in the US and see how big of a ground force we would have? That is why no country dare to invade us, because they would have to face all those hunters with their Semi-Automatic Rifles, Hand Guns, and shotguns. Would you want to face that?

  • Dogs_Rules Dec 18, 12:33 p.m.

    After some preliminary research, I have found that mass shootings are committed almost exclusively by white males residing in or born and raised in blue states. So maybe we should prohibit the sale of firearms to all white males born in traditionally blue states. Sound like a plan?

  • absolutecaniac69 Dec 18, 12:30 p.m.

    Outlaw the possession of assault weapons. Owners must turn in their weapons or face a 5 year prison sentence. Offer $25,000 reward for information leading to discovery of said weapons.

    Who really needs an assault weapon capable of discharging hundreds of rounds?

  • laurenfedorov Dec 18, 12:17 p.m.

    Gun control laws are NOT going to prevent things like this from happening because people who do things like this are generally criminals and laugh at gun control laws, or any laws. Only law abiding citizens would take gun control laws seriously and would abide by them. Criminals just see it as one more law to break.
    What is at the heart of this problem is called sin. It is not a dysfunctional home, deprivation, abuse, mental illness, or anything like that. It is the depravity of mankind in general, and this young man just showed it in a way that horrifies the average person in this country.
    By removing God and His laws from society in general, all moral restraint was also removed. This young man grew up in such a society without the knowledge of God and where life is not valued. Until we bring God back into our society and enact appropriate punishment that would act as a deterrent to people doing things like this, these things will continue and will grow worse and more numerous.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 18, 12:16 p.m.

    It's just a knee- reaction from people who want to do something just to make them feel good,"

    I agree and most are all talk/chat.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 18, 12:13 p.m.

    LOADED GUNS ARE IN THE WRONG HANDS. THAT IS WHO IS DOING THE CRIMINAL MURDER AND OTHER CRIMES. REPUTABLE PEOPLE IS NOT DOING NO SUCH THING. LOOK AT THE REAL PICTURE. DO YOUR SONS OR DAUGHTERS HAVE ACCESS TO LOADED GUNS OR LAYING AROUND HIDEN FROM YOU IN THEIR BEDROOM UNDER THE ROOF OF YOUR HOUSE. BETTER RUN IN THEIR AND THROUGHLY CHECK.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 18, 12:06 p.m.

    I guess that’s what they mean by “common sense.”

    Absolutely!

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 18, 12:04 p.m.

    it is to target these gun free schools.

    And its going to stay GUN FREE SCHOOLS. Why do we need loaded guns laying around the school for the Elementary, Middle School and High Schoolers to get their hands son. These are young people and it will happen. Same as they get YOUR loaded guns in YOUR OWN HOME. Wake up and see the real picture in what it is.

  • smegma Dec 18, 11:58 a.m.

    the LIBOR trials would have prevented them

  • Pretzel Logic Dec 18, 11:58 a.m.

    The militia consists of able bodied citizens gathering with their own arms.

    Not government soldiers / supplied arms which the constitution clearly defines

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Dec 18, 11:57 a.m.

    "Anyone that thinks they should be able to possess such firearms is up to no good."

    Your comment has a lot of untruths in it. Does that mean police officers, for example is up to no good just because they carry a loaded gun? Have common sense when you chat on this board. Thanks.

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