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  • admyank Dec 18, 9:19 a.m.

    Oh, well! I know a great auctioneer who can sell the stuff!

  • Absurd Dec 17, 9:39 p.m.

    These employees gambled on a future court ruling and lost - seems appropriate.

  • Rebelyell55 Dec 17, 7:58 p.m.

    There is a sucker born every minute. Ya just got to know what they're likely to want nexts.

  • Steven Dec 17, 7:52 p.m.

    Have to laugh at the folks that are so excited about the ruling. If you didn't patronize them, what does it matter to you. These people can spend their money as they wish. Presuming to know anything about these people or that the people that run them are in organized crime, etc is just foolish. I know several church going folks that actually own them that would be surprised to know that they are in organized crime.

  • disgusted2010 Dec 17, 7:05 p.m.

    "I know the owners of two of these places. Please tell me how these church going folks in Frnaklinton and Youngsville are involved in organized crime? LOL what in the world!!!"

    The "sweepstakes" is just another incarnation of video poker which has been proven to be organized crime. How many video poker operators have been convicted and sent to prison for gambling, money laundering, tax evasion, wire fraud, etc.? Not organized crime, what about the sheriff in Buncombe County that went to prison for taking bribes from gambling operators to look the other way. In our history when has the legislature passed a law making an act, here "sweepstakes," a crime and those who are violating the law band together and hire lawyers to sue the state and pay millions of dollars to legislators in so called campaign contributions? If that is not organized, what is?

    There is just too much money to be made bleeding gullible poor people of their rent/grocery money to let it go.

  • big_mikes Dec 17, 6:23 p.m.

    I just don't like this. This reeks of corruption on the Supreme Court. Someone was lobbying them and dishing out money. I mean, NC opened a can worms when they decided to operate a Lottery, which is gambling . So to tell business owners that they can do as you do and that is make a profit on sweepstakes machine, is just blatantly wrong and corrupt. This needs to be investigated or taken to the Supreme Court of the USA.

  • ncpilot2 Dec 17, 6:09 p.m.

    I have yet to see one of these "businesses" that looks like a business we would be proud to have in our neighborhood.

  • ncpilot2 Dec 17, 6:07 p.m.

    The most important part to this story is the IMPORTANT point that this "paper" was financed by a part of the gaming industry. So, naturally, it questions its totally accuracy.

  • DurhamDevil Dec 17, 6:06 p.m.

    Well, NO - because their patrons brought us business too.

    We have a grocery store next to one of them, and their patrons would swing by our store for snacks before going in, and would stop by again for breakfast and lunch foods to take home when they left.

    Esser Huma

    Yep - I bet. After having spent all their "cash" in the gambling joint, they come in and use their "get-food-free" card at MY expense.

    I don't give a hoot about their business or yours, if you support them.

  • Lovemy2kids Dec 17, 6:00 p.m.

    I love all the comments from those who call the players "Fools, Poor, etc" I play at the Sweepstakes Cafe and I an no FOOL nor am I poor or live off the system. I work hard for my money and pay my own bills. If I choose to spend $20, $50 or $1,000 a week it is my choice. I want to know how many of the people who made a comment between 8am & 5pm today actually have a real job??? I am willing to bet that over 1/2 of the people ranting below do not even work and are living off of the system. So judge all you want but those of us who work our tail off and can afford to blow money are laughing at all your judgemental comments over being jelious!!! I hope they do not close them down just to tick you off even more!!!

  • pokemoncoffee Dec 17, 5:57 p.m.

    This ruling is insane and unfair to the people of North Carolina. I created a facebook page to protest the group at facebook.com/savencjobs.

    These people are going to lose their jobs at Christmas. These are no different than lottery tickets since the spins are already predetermined. They generate revenue for the state and for local entities and they hurt nobody.

    Hopefully we can work together to protest this new law.

  • westernwake1 Dec 17, 5:52 p.m.

    Tell me again how the Republicans and their pet judges are creating jobs in our state.

  • Banned4Life Dec 17, 5:41 p.m.

    Thankfully, we have all the experts here to cure every ill our society could possibly come up with. They are here every day on every article posting all of the solutions to all of our ills. I just have to wonder why none of their solutions have never been tried. Or if they were, why they failed? With the combined intellect of these posters, we should be living a life of leisure and luxury with endless supplies of everything we need and an environment that requires us to completely decimate it.

  • GravyPig Dec 17, 5:31 p.m.

    "Spent all her and her husbands income on this carp."

    That just sounds fishy to me.

  • yellow_hat Dec 17, 5:30 p.m.

    "when the smoking ban put my business out of business"

    no it didn't

  • common tater Dec 17, 5:07 p.m.

    I'm no expert on this, but it sounds like the software company pushed the appeals to let these places stay open when the state tried to close them...good riddance. Having said that, it is a double standard, because obviously the lottery is here to stay.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 5:06 p.m.

    aspenstreet1717 - "They don't want competition. The NC lottery is another scam put upon the working people."

    B-I-N-G-O!!!

    Give that commenter a cigar and a ticket to next week's show!!!

    Our state legislators think (and they might be right, who knows), money being spent in these sweepstakes cafes is money that would go the the NC Lottery were the sweepstakes cafes closed.

    That's the REAL reason.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 5:04 p.m.

    vinylcarwraps23 - "Bojangles is hiring. Sheetz is hiring. We are hiring (sales asst and IT). I got 100's more. I cant tell you there are no jobs on WRAL."

    The vast majority still unemployed are highly educated, highly trained, highly experienced management to middle management people who wouldn't stand a chance of getting a job in the places you indicated because they're over-qualified.

    Just for fun, why don't you apply to some of those jobs to see how many calls you get for an interview, and if you do get an interview, see how many offer you the job.

    If you're experienced and your resume is good, you'll be lucky to get a call for an interview at all.

    Employers are looking for college grads with little to no experience who will work for peanuts. That's not the bulk of those on the unemployment rolls right now - nor has it been since 2007.

  • aspenstreet1717 Dec 17, 5:02 p.m.

    They don't want competition. The NC lottery is another scam put upon the working people.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 5:01 p.m.

    autismawareness - "i'm sure they'll find another way to exploit the poor."

    The poor who CHOOSE to patronize their establishment.

    ROFLOL

    They'll just find some other way to waste their money honey.

    And in the meantime, NC will lose tax dollars they were getting on the rental income and utility taxes these places generated.

    Smart huh - NOPE!!!

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:59 p.m.

    DurhamDevil - "My guess is that those legitimate businesses that have seen such establishments open up right next door to them are happy, as well..."

    Well, NO - because their patrons brought us business too.

    We have a grocery store next to one of them, and their patrons would swing by our store for snacks before going in, and would stop by again for breakfast and lunch foods to take home when they left.

  • johnniebegood Dec 17, 4:57 p.m.

    Great in 1 year the same NC House and Senate have banned gay marriage and destroyed x00s of jobs. Maybe it's time to get rid of the representatives and senators of NC?

  • ycbs Dec 17, 4:56 p.m.

    "SO what? Let the gov start telling you how to spend your money all while the gov is doing what you want to do but wont let you." - vinylcarwraps23

    The main problem I have with the sweepstakes places is the people that are in them look like they're probably already getting plenty of government assistance. If I knew the money they wasted in there was from their own honestly earned paychecks, that's fine. I think there's tons of tax dollars being wasted in there.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:56 p.m.

    tasheemap - "How is it that they were legal for all this time and now they're not legal??????? Makes no sense to me at all!!!"

    Because it was being challenged in the court system which takes time, and the court system finally issued a ruling last week.

    sheesh

    Some people need to learn how to read.

  • april65 Dec 17, 4:49 p.m.

    When will this happen? I personally can't wait.

  • Minarchist Dec 17, 4:48 p.m.

    Where? I have been laid off for over 6 months and have put in over 400 applications and its really dried up since the election. And thats after working for over 30yrs.
    miketroll3572

    Bojangles is hiring. Sheetz is hiring. We are hiring (sales asst and IT). I got 100's more. I cant tell you there are no jobs on WRAL.

  • autismawareness Dec 17, 4:48 p.m.

    i'm sure they'll find another way to exploit the poor.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:45 p.m.

    disgusted - "These places are nothing but organized crime."

    If you're saying that, you have no idea what "organized crime" is.

    These people don't hunt you down and break your ankles or nail your knees to the floor if you don't patronize them.

  • oleguy Dec 17, 4:45 p.m.

    Good ridance, They were the same as a poker house

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:43 p.m.

    And, by the way, with these cafes closed down, now there will be a glut of rental space back on the market, space that isn't generating rental income, or utilities income either.

    Talk about shooting oneself in one's own foot - all so they can regulate a sin industry which harms no one but those who CHOOSE to participate in it.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:41 p.m.

    Pause - "...the sweepstakes 'industry' is thinly veiled gambling that is designed to separate fools from their money."

    So what?

    You think closing them down is going to stop those fools from wasting their money elsewhere?

    They'll just divert it to the bogus North Carolina "Education" (cough cough) Lottery, and that's what the whole rub is for the state - they want that money spent on THAT lottery and not on sweepstakes.

  • DurhamDevil Dec 17, 4:41 p.m.

    Very happy to see this ruling.

    My guess is that those legitimate businesses that have seen such establishments open up right next door to them are happy, as well...

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 4:40 p.m.

    wille - "So, they were doing nothing, got a job in an illegal "industry" doing nothing, and they're complaining?"

    This is a job, work, get it?

    These were people who WANTED to work and didn't want to "invent a disability, get a lawyer and kick back on SSID" - cause I assure you, if they had wanted to do that to begin with, they probably would have made more money than a cashier in a sweepstakes location makes.

  • Nargile Dec 17, 4:36 p.m.

    Gee..when the smoking ban put my business out of business they didn't seem to care. Why should we now?

  • thefensk Dec 17, 4:25 p.m.

    I think this "report" is overstated. These places have been opening and closing with great regularity since they started. Very few seem to last more than a few months.

  • tasheemap Dec 17, 4:24 p.m.

    NC IS BACKWARDS. How is it that they were legal for all this time and now they're not legal??????? Makes no sense to me at all!!! Now many will lose there jobs!!! CRAZY!!!

  • 11of10j Dec 17, 4:23 p.m.

    Folks are just going to go out of state and that state will collect the taxes. I don't see any diferrence between this and the lottery......it's all gambling.

  • Minarchist Dec 17, 4:21 p.m.

    DISGUSTED....$100K reward for proof of organized crime. Good luck!

  • Minarchist Dec 17, 4:20 p.m.

    These places are nothing but organized crime. Putting them out of work is akin to putting prostitutes and drug dealers out of work. Only difference is the drug dealers and pimps have never had the gall to hire politically connected lawyers and sue the state.
    disgusted2010
    December 17, 2012 3:52 p.m.
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    I know the owners of two of these places. Please tell me how these church going folks in Frnaklinton and Youngsville are involved in organized crime? LOL what in the world!!!

  • cwoodfishing Dec 17, 4:19 p.m.

    the people who go to these cafes are not going to save any money. if they can not play the games they are simply going to spend their money on state owned lottery. if you really think otherwise then you are naive. yes, low income individuals frequent these cafes, but also people who make good money go to them too. i believe someone stated this earlier, but i'm pretty sure their will be a lawsuit to follow this due to the fact that the state and counties have enforced taxes to be paid on each machine a store owns. and yes there will be many jobs lost. some of these workers have had their jobs for over the amount of time you would need in order to file for unemployment so guess what? these workers are now going to be filing for unemployment, placing a burden on the state which is already in a big hole. why not ban fast food. mcdonalds leads to obese individuals and obesity leads to heart failure and death. while they are at it they need to pan tobacco and alcohol

  • miketroll3572 Dec 17, 4:12 p.m.

    Stop instilling fear for lose a job find another for there are jobs to be had.

    Where? I have been laid off for over 6 months and have put in over 400 applications and its really dried up since the election. And thats after working for over 30yrs.

  • more cowbell Dec 17, 4:05 p.m.

    So, they were doing nothing, got a job in an illegal "industry" doing nothing, and they're complaining? Just go back to doing nothing or do what a lot do and invent a disability, get a lawyer and kick back on SSID.

  • pause to consider Dec 17, 4:04 p.m.

    While I appreciate the freedom to spend my money where I choose, the sweepstakes 'industry' is thinly veiled gambling that is designed to separate fools from their money. It's not that I want to stop fools from spending money (that will never stop), I just don't want those largely amoral business owners to get rich.

  • crowemag Dec 17, 4:03 p.m.

    Glad this is happening! There was one in the building I currently have a store in and the place was robbed 5 times, once the clerk got hit with the gun. Other retailers were losing business as the riff raff would hang out, bum money off of people, pass out in the common area, harrass people, not to mention how they would use the common area as a public restroom. the games are also fixed, the employees know exactly which terminal will hit each day and most times they put an "out of order" sign on the machine that should give out the jackpot so no one wins. These places only attract the desperate and the criminal element, bad for business all around.

  • disgusted2010 Dec 17, 3:52 p.m.

    These places are nothing but organized crime. Putting them out of work is akin to putting prostitutes and drug dealers out of work. Only difference is the drug dealers and pimps have never had the gall to hire politically connected lawyers and sue the state.

  • Uhavenoclu Dec 17, 3:49 p.m.

    The most popular word used by the media to instill fear without real facts and real times..COULD,CHANCE,POSSIBLE....
    Stop instilling fear for lose a job find another for there are jobs to be had.
    North Carolina,state of Doom and Gloom media...FEAR BABY

  • Rebelyell55 Dec 17, 3:48 p.m.

    There a many places that will now sit empty, because this type of business was all that would locate there.

  • Rebelyell55 Dec 17, 3:47 p.m.

    If they outlaw this, then they should outlaw Stock Traders and the Lottery. It's all gambling.

    allinfantsareatheists
    December 17, 2012 2:39 p.m.
    >>>>>>>>>> Your right, but stock traders cheat,,, so it's an insult to compare them to gamblers.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 17, 3:47 p.m.

    yoowho - "It's the poor and desperate that waste their money on this junk - and they are the ones who can least afford to throw away dollars."

    Do you really want our government to legislate that much of our personal lives?

    What next?

    Them telling us exactly what kind of shoes to wear, or how to peel our oranges?

  • Minarchist Dec 17, 3:46 p.m.

    YOOWHO...are you for closing down bars? Im sure people spend more on alcohol than "scratch offs". Whats more harmful to the body? Alcohol or scratch offs? Im glad you want to play Adolf. Funny.

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