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nitabitasmith Dec 12, 9:50 a.m.
I think the results were "adjusted". I am a former teacher in NC and I am pretty sure this is exaggerated.
Plenty Coups Dec 11, 5:24 p.m.
"So, this means we DON'T have to spend more per pupil to get good results."
Or is it more likely that our scores will begin to drop as more teachers leave the profession. There is a lag effect. Funny thing is, is that you'd be saying the same thing if scores were bad-that we "shouldn't be throwing money at failed schools". Either way its obvious you just don't want to pay for education. Educational spending near the bottom of the nation speaks for itself.
Plenty Coups Dec 11, 5:21 p.m.
"The only difference is that the students in other countries are not permitted to retake a test- so how can you compare apples with oranges!! You can't!!"
This test is administered the same way in every country.
tayled Dec 11, 5:19 p.m.
How did we do this? Not even a year ago, the politicians and the media were painting a picture of gloom and doom and that we were falling behind. How indeed? Perhaps we weren't as bad as they thought?
scovert73 Dec 11, 5:07 p.m.
The TIMSS test is not the EOG's. The EOG's are the ones that students can retake if they are within the standard deviation of test itself. TIMSS can not be retaken. So one is not comparing apples to oranges. The TIMSS test is administered the same way consistently so that you can analyze the data.
tbalmer1 Dec 11, 4:18 p.m.
The only difference is that the students in other countries are not permitted to retake a test- so how can you compare apples with oranges!! You can't!!
piene2 Dec 11, 4:03 p.m.
"Study: NC students competitive with global counterparts"
Oh right, except that a majority of them can not properly dress themselves, even begin to speak proper English, not to mention a second or third language or balance a check book. The survey must have compared them to the Bushman.
Banned4Life Dec 11, 3:59 p.m.
What areas were tested? A few urban areas or the whole state? I can believe it if the results were pulled from mostly urban areas in our state, but I've got to tell you, it doesn't juve with what I've seen coming out of most of our rural school systems. Between all of the "my Billybob should be able to pray in school if he wants" and the rest of the issues the parents out there think are important (educational achievement seems to be about last on the list), and the lack of funds going to those regions as a percentage of total spending, there seems to be a large divide between the metropolitan and rural systems.
JustAName Dec 11, 3:52 p.m.
So, this means we DON'T have to spend more per pupil to get good results.
whatelseisnew Dec 11, 3:46 p.m.
It is my hope to see the end of the Traditional Public School. We can do better, but we have to allow choice into the system. It does not exist at the moment.
babbleon Dec 11, 3:39 p.m.
Then they should be able to handle having the education budget slashed by this legislature. mayhem
1) The budget has been cut by 2 - 5% over EACH of the last three years, while NC has had significant growth in enrollment. We need to be done slashing.
2) The impact of cuts don't show immediately - good news now doesn't mean that the current spending levels will let us maintain that good news.
We need to restore the education budget if we want to see these good results continue.
issymayake Dec 11, 3:28 p.m.
Plenty Coups and Tracmister, yall are on it. Kudos to NC teachers.
Plenty Coups Dec 11, 2:35 p.m.
"Yes, and the reward for teachers is not earning a raise for four years, then getting one that doesn't cover the inflation rate."
Well said. We need to pay our outstanding teachers far, far more and at least honor the contracts that we gave them when they were hired. Sadly, this General Assembly wants to pretend that we should dismantle public education in favor of more charter schools and study states that do worse, like Florida.
mayhem Dec 11, 2:07 p.m.
Good. Then they should be able to handle having the education budget slashed by this legislature and Shady Pat.
tracmister Dec 11, 1:51 p.m.
Yes, and the reward for teachers is not earning a raise for four years, then getting one that doesn't cover the inflation rate. It also carries the Republican parties attempt to devastate the public school system so that the majority of students will suffer. Good hard work reward with a thankless career.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03