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shanemane1986 Dec 12, 12:01 a.m.
I wonder if the owners thought about getting "replacements"! Obviously wouldn't be the same but it would be an awesome slap in the face to the players. I'm use to not seeing hockey on tv anymore or trying to go home from work and 40 not being a parking lot because of the games. Glad there's still NFL, college football and basketball.
respect Dec 11, 10:33 a.m.
pause to consider Dec 11, 10:28 a.m.
Cancelled through Dec 30..... of what year? Forever seems appropriate. I don't envy the wealthy, but it brings to mind a favorite saying of mine: "Until you decide how much is enough, you'll never have enough". All the fun, excitement and associated jobs down the tubes because the greedy cannot decide how to divide the spoils.
respect Dec 11, 10:21 a.m.
Loyal STH, for 11 yrs, we are so disappointed re this year!! However, we have gotten over it. Sad part is that there may be substancial permanent damage to
hockey in more than THIS market. The greedy players and owners should be ashamed, but why should we expect any better? They all "talk" a good game re appreciating fans, arena workers, and other associates. Will the philanthropy and good will for 2012 continue? I doubt it.
sburks1906 Dec 11, 10:13 a.m.
I'm just waiting for the "the NHL season has been cancelled" news to come out.
Gunnstigator Dec 11, 7:38 a.m.
Good one, Deac
Gunnstigator Dec 11, 6:49 a.m.
After reading the posts here, it seems the Canes are losing a lot of STH's, and that is their life's blood, so if or when there is a season, the Canes Organization will lose even more money than usual. I can't blame anyone for cashing in - why have money tied up in a sport that isn't being played. Sad situation all around.
littleriver69 Dec 11, 6:43 a.m.
Cancel the season...who cares?
sanacito Dec 11, 6:30 a.m.
Actually, a little over $4000. With that being said, where in the lower bowl do you sit? Never really knew that where you sat made a difference as far as being a fan is concerned.
CLEARLY, you aren't a hockey fan. You'd be one of those fools that would want to sit by the ice and miss half of the plays cause you simply can't see them. Try sitting up higher to see the entire game. Oh wait...you don't go to hockey games...lol
uncsuckz Dec 11, 3:59 a.m.
I agree! let 'em all suffer. baseball nearly ruined itself in 1994 with a work stoppage. it took years of rampant steroid use to demolish records which had stood for 50+ years, but that's what piqued the fan's interest and brought them back. hope the NHL saw this and will not allow this type of action to prevail once they return to the ice....and they WILL return
uncsuckz Dec 11, 3:55 a.m.
and you don't think management is out for themselves?
ndcuskue Dec 10, 9:27 p.m.
...You are boring...enough said.
mich2nc982 Dec 10, 9:23 p.m.
As a former Detroit transplant, who moved to NC in 1998...college basketball and football were things I did in college. I went to Duke for my Master's and sort of got into basketball, but didnt' really see all the fuss. I grew up watching the Red Wings with my Dad and that's how I became a hockey fan. every other sport, to me, pales in comparison. Hockey is more than a sport to me, the Canes and Wings are something special my Dad (who lives back in Michigan) and I can share and talk about.
I have had full season tickets for the Canes the past 5 yrs - i live and breathe hockey. but after Thursday, I asked for a refund. enough toying with us fans! even IF there is a season this year, I am boy-cotting. Owners, players....neither gives a ^%$@#* about their fans or those who work a 2nd job at the PNC or any other arena, or the bars/restaurants that make a good deal of money when there is a game, especially those around Joe Louis Arena. enough greed!
ndcuskue Dec 10, 9:20 p.m.
...section 325? Big spender, how much did you get back, $100?
ndcuskue Dec 10, 9:15 p.m.
sanacito Dec 10, 8:35 p.m.
I've loved this sport since I was a kid. This year, I was going to start taking my grandson. But after ten years of full season tickets in section 325, row G, those tickets were cancelled. My refund came in the mail and we made prompt use of our disposable income.
Sad, but these greedy fools are killing the golden goose!
Sauras69 Dec 10, 7:00 p.m.
I'm happy that some of the rich owners and players will lose some millions. The owners want the ticket buyers to pay way more monies than the sport is worth. The same for football and basketball. The ticket buyers are the culprit. Why do they pay this amount to see a team perform in person? It's a shame that the millionaires want more. I hope that they will not play one darn game this season.
wlcat609 Dec 10, 5:53 p.m.
Since this time around the OWNERS seemed to hve adopted the 'non-negotiating' position and the hockey season is nearly half over already, perhaps the NHLPA would be smart in NOT agreeing to a contract for the rest of the year (since this half season would count as a year in any new agreement) ....perhaps when the OWNERS get ZIPPO for this season it will make them MORE AGREEABLE to NEGOTIATE for the 2014 season.....and the GREEDINESS of 2013 on BOTH sides will ease as well. It is unfortunate for the 'support personnel' but , at least, they have some employment for the basketball games and shows at the PNC so all is not totally lost for them.
Got Peart Dec 10, 5:00 p.m.
I've lived in NC for 38 of my 40 years. Didn't follow hockey at all until they came here. But I was able to learn the rules and understood what was goin gon, and enjoyed the game. It is a pretty exciting game to watch. So yeah - I became a fan, and going to Stanley Cup Finals game will always be a highlight memory for me.
But of all the major sports that I enjoy watching, hockey is last on the list. In order it goes: College/NFL football, NCAA basketball (NO to NBA), MLB, hockey.
I am from the south and I hate NASCAR, funny because I am an enhusiast of classic cars.
Not saying I'm totally done with hockey, but it's going to take A LOT for me to come back.
ericevenson Dec 10, 4:46 p.m.
If the players are smart, they will hurry and take the deal on the table during this time of economic downturn. They will never get this year back, otherwise. Folowing Fehr and the union is costing them big time. The owners take on all the responsibilities that go with ownership, pick these young men to play the sport they love, and pay them a hefty salary. Then the union comes in, and the season is over. Follow the union at your own peril.
Relic Dec 10, 4:17 p.m.
"NHL and the Canes will be just fine when they get this worked out. All the haters and college basketball fans can go watch your little girly sport. You can't handle hockey anyway, go wear your visors."
Not a hockey hater. Unions? Oh I can't stand them... (visors??)
BULLDOZER Dec 10, 4:04 p.m.
What a boring sport anyway. Any chance of pulling in a larger fan base just went out the window. Just look at what major league baseball has seen after all their strikes. Empty seats in high dollar tax funded stadiums. Let the free market determine the fate of this sport.
Deacons Dec 10, 3:55 p.m.
Are we sure these guys aren't working in Washington too?
Jimmytwotimes Dec 10, 3:53 p.m.
NHL and the Canes will be just fine when they get this worked out. All the haters and college basketball fans can go watch your little girly sport. You can't handle hockey anyway, go wear your visors.
aspenstreet1717 Dec 10, 3:49 p.m.
Done with the Canes. Never purchase a season ticket again.
corey3rd Dec 10, 3:28 p.m.
Far as Atlanta stinking year after year - Raleigh will have only had playoff games once in a 7 year span. Canes have been a major disappointment. If you look back before the Canes won the Cup, they had only made the playoffs twice in the last 11 seasons. That's 9 seasons that the RBC went dark at end of the regular season. Sure they had two good run in that 11 years, but those other years have been utter busts. The Canes STUNK. 7 seasons without the playoffs - and two years where they didn't play a single game at the arena.
what_in_the____ Dec 10, 3:25 p.m.
who gives a _____!
what_in_the____ Dec 10, 3:24 p.m.
Awesome...Maybe they will cancel NHL all together
weimy21 Dec 10, 3:23 p.m.
Amen to that!
gt_football Dec 10, 3:20 p.m.
GREAT!!!!! More College Basketball.
caniacman Dec 10, 3:13 p.m.
so know you want to compare the Canes getting a TV deal similar to the Chicago Bulls? Not exactly the same markets. The bottom line is the team in Raleigh makes money when the team is in the playoffs, just like most other teams in any other market. The reason Atlanta did not work is that team stunk year in and year out. A team in Raleigh can work and does work if the league does not commit fan suicide every 6 years! The problems are not Raleigh based but league based.
bluecharger Dec 10, 3:01 p.m.
i'd be interested in knowing how many NC hockey fans are native NC'inians (or at least 20 years here), and how many are transplants or decendants of recent transplants....this is ACC, NASCAR, and Braves', 'Skins', Boys' country...who REALLY cares around here about hockey? to me it rivals present-day NBA in that you can't figure out the rules, or even who among the players have to follow "certain" rules...i don't care that it exists, i'll just never be a fan, even casually
monkeyboy Dec 10, 2:59 p.m.
Millionaires and Billionaires fighting. better fix this or you will loose more than money-you will loose FANS!!
man, i LOVE loosing fans. they all get drunk and do stupid things. like posting inanities....
lec02572 Dec 10, 2:54 p.m.
Of what year 2013 or 2014, this season is gone.
corey3rd Dec 10, 2:53 p.m.
and remember that the poor pitiful small market Canes were the ones that exploded the free agent market when they threw an outrageous $38 million deal at Serge Fedorov. But that's not the Canes fault for throwing the economics out of whack.
corey3rd Dec 10, 2:45 p.m.
When the Hurricanes make the Stanley Cup Finals - they finally eek out a profit. They haven't made the playoffs 5 out of the 6 seasons. That's a lot of time without getting in the black.
Rutherford has complained privately in the past about Raleigh and its lack of real support such as a TV contract that rivals the Bulls on Me-TV. He knows the Raleigh fans aren't going to pay $75 to watch a pack of lovable losers.
evenflow2005 Dec 10, 2:41 p.m.
This is exactly how the smaller market teams are going to fail. Losing good fans that were STH. And I'm not blaming you or any fans one bit for boycotting the NHL, because I am. You would think the players would be happy with whatever millions they get in todays economy. I don't understand why the owners just don't close the league down and start all over. Let all these players go back to their own countries in Europe and Canada. I doubt they would get any amount close to what they are making now. Regardless of what the situation is, the owners are the owners.
justaconservativeguy Dec 10, 2:40 p.m.
I did not know people still played or watched hockey. What is hockey?
vile garbage Dec 10, 2:37 p.m.
What is this "hockey" you speak of?
caniacman Dec 10, 2:31 p.m.
corey3rd if you are trying to compare the longterm viablity of the Canes based off of the Thrashers really poor model to try and do that on. No where has Karmonos ever complained of the situation here in Raleigh. When the Canes make the playoffs they have made money.
This is about two men and their egos. Just hope the calendar will make a deal happen, my guess is the next cancellation will be the season and at that time the NHL may be doomed forever!
corey3rd Dec 10, 2:25 p.m.
If you can't afford an NHL team then get rid of it. Nobody told the Whalers to come on down to Raleigh. They just showed up. Nobody made any promises to Karamonos and company.
If you understood the long term viability of hockey, you'd realize that Raleigh and a few other cities have zero business being a major league hockey city. We could barely support the Raleigh IceCaps. Even Atlanta couldn't keep an NHL team - why should Raleigh be different?
If you can't afford you lifestyle choices (such as owning an NHL team) don't whine to me. That's your problem that you dream bigger than your bank account.
Gatsby Dec 10, 2:20 p.m.
Who Cares? The cliff is straight ahead and thats the least of it what with the calendar ending and all.
WWF is on 3 times a week...
Luv2Camp Dec 10, 2:11 p.m.
I was a STH for 10 years. Not any more. I don't blame the owners. I put 100% of the blame on the players, who don't understand finance 101. The owners in small market teams, like Raleigh, are losing money. The players, the vast majority of which have ice for brains, don't seem to care about the long-term viability of hockey. They are out for themselves and the heck with everyone else.
Got Peart Dec 10, 1:47 p.m.
When (and if) NHL ever comes back, this is one fan that will lock out hockey.
If the season is cancelled, there will be Canes sweaters on eBay. I am on the verge of being completely done with hockey.
I don't necessarily blame the players. Moreso I put blame on the commissioner and Fehr. If the players and owners had just been able to continue talks without those clowns, then we might be getting somewhere.
Frnakly I'm sick of it!
baldchip Dec 10, 1:43 p.m.
Millionaires and Billionaires fighting. better fix this or you will loose more than money-you will loose FANS!!
kidcisco Dec 10, 1:37 p.m.
I just pulled back my STH money from the Canes...we had 8 seats and asked for a refund for 2 of them. The Canes said any refund would cancel benefits for the entire account! Bad choice to treat STH this way....given the current state of affairs with the NHL. They lost 8 seats instead of 2.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03