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  • ladyblue Dec 11, 2012

    I get so sick and tired of "they got" "I want the same" mentality this world is coming to and sick of judges who pander to this nonsense.
    . why not just donate to each of these causes and forget a darn plate.

  • slowpoke4333 Dec 11, 2012

    They should allow both this plate and the "Respect Choice" plate. Let anyone that wants a vanity plate of some sort pay through the nose. Offset the fee for the rest of us!

  • WageSlave Dec 11, 2012

    Easy. "Social conservatives" are commies. True conservatives are now Libertarians.
    vinylcarwraps23

    +1

  • bowens44 Dec 11, 2012

    "its not religious"

    LOL!

  • bowens44 Dec 11, 2012

    "throw these type of frivolous law suits out"

    Yes because as we all know, protecting the Constitution of the United States is frivolous.......unbelievable. Conservatives apparently hate the constitution when it is at odds with there quaint, antiquated puritanical belief system...

  • Brian Jenkins Dec 11, 2012

    Choose a bumper sticker! Cheaper and not as tacky as whatever that thing is called a license plate.

  • Brian Jenkins Dec 11, 2012

    "I'll never understand the unholy union between social "conservatives" and actual conservatives."

    Easy. "Social conservatives" are commies. True conservatives are now Libertarians.

  • Da Toy Maker Dec 11, 2012

    BTW, it stinks when the Government takes your freedom of speech away, doesn't it???

  • chattycat Dec 11, 2012

    do understand it is an individual choice to get one and your opinion is fairly meaningless in that decision .. and the state makes a nice bucket of money on it- soyousay

    And what is your point? I have every right to my opinion as you do! I think it is a silly ego trip. My opinion and you don't have to agree, I could care less.

  • Paul Parker Dec 11, 2012

    Ok, let the other side have their NC plates. Let us see, What would it say? Choose Death, because that is what it is.
    milmae
    December 11, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    It might say “Trust Women. Respect Choice” or “Respect Choice” just like was stated in the article.

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    Choose Death, because that is what it is...

    pretty much no, it was respect choice, and death comes to us all choice or not

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    Hush Crybabies Best post yet! I have never understood the need for such silliness....

    you do understand it is an individual choice to get one and your opinion is fairly meaningless in that decision .. and the state makes a nice bucket of money on it

  • bill0 Dec 11, 2012

    I'll never understand the unholy union between social "conservatives" and actual conservatives. What on earth is conservative about the state government making political advertisements for privately owned cars? That is not a legitimate government function under our state constitution.

  • chattycat Dec 11, 2012

    Just have plates for NC. All the same. No difference. You silly Bozo's with your vanity plates. Stupids. It's transportation from Point A to Point B, not your silly little billboard. Get over yourselves.

    Hush Crybabies
    Best post yet! I have never understood the need for such silliness.

  • getuone Dec 11, 2012

    Ok, let the other side have their NC plates. Let us see, What would it say? Choose Death, because that is what it is.

  • Disabled Vet Dec 11, 2012

    I wonder what all the pro abortioninsts would say if their parents had and abortion when regnant with them?

  • BubbaDukeforPresident Dec 11, 2012

    Stupid judge.

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    Just have plates for NC...

    really and all that revenue goes away because the religous right has opened a mess and do not want to deal with the fallout

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    ..Its not religious..

    why yes it is, really really. when does life begin? are "you" then opposed to birth control that would prevent implantation? The catholic heirarchy does, on the basis of their religous belief it wrong (of course their flock preety much ignores that one). Its all about belief. And a for the poster than suggested that another should have used something else when the poster was young..what is it exactly to you...

  • YippiYiyoKiYay Dec 11, 2012

    Just have plates for NC. All the same. No difference. You silly Bozo's with your vanity plates. Stupids. It's transportation from Point A to Point B, not your silly little billboard. Get over yourselves.

  • Objective Scientist Dec 11, 2012

    Unlike some... I have never felt the need to express my opinions or beliefs to all through a motor vehicle license plate, or through bumper stickers, or yard signs, or graffiti, or whatever. As I sit in my vehicle behind yours at the traffic light, or you pass me, or you "cut in front of me", etc., etc. - I care NOT what your views on any issue may be. If a poll were taken to determine how many "care" what "causes" you support as you advertise them on a license plate... I firmly believe I would be in the majority - most would not care. I do - INDEED - care about "fairness" and what is permitted under our Constitution. To allow the advertisement of one belief or support of a "cause" and not the opposing viewpoint - is decidedly UNFAIR and is indeed UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

  • BernsteinIII Dec 11, 2012

    "There is nothing unconstitutional about the pro-life plate. What is unconstitutional is allowing it while disallowing plates with an opposing viewpoint." -TBK

    How many times are you going to say that before the knee-jerkers get it?

    I think you are wasting your time.

  • Objective Scientist Dec 11, 2012

    To the fervently "religious"... You truly enjoy stating YOUR beliefs and values, and being evangelical - you have NO hesitation in making your voice heard. I have no problem at all - NONE - with you valuing what you value, and with you voicing your beliefs. You indeed have that right! However, those who do not believe what you believe also have the right to voice their beliefs. YOU need to learn to respect their right - especially as you DEMAND that EVERYONE respect yours!!! You feel you are "in the right"! No problem with you feeling that way, just realize and recognize that those who do not believe what you believe... feel equally strong that they are "in the right". Do you want the USA to be like some countries... only one "religion" is allowed and you face even death if you do not believe that particular religion? Sadly... some USA fervently religious individuals would want that - FOR THEIR PARTICULAR RELIGION/BELIEF! That is not the case here... thanks to the USA Constitution!

  • Brian Jenkins Dec 11, 2012

    Its not religious, it is a suggestion to choose life instead of aborting a baby. Why should the life of an innocent little baby cause so much angst! Go ahead and make a "choose abortion" plate, with little x's for the childs eyes! There you have it, both sides!
    rndiadem1
    December 11, 2012 9:24 a.m.
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    How many have you adopted?

  • hussie42000 Dec 11, 2012

    Second: Judge Fox ought to also mind his own business. that suit should have been thrown out and so should he. It is time that the judges in this country started using common sense and throw these type of frivolous law suits out.
    barnharj

    First: This is the judge's business by definition to decide the constitutionality of laws and merits of cases brought in front of him. Second: I may not agree with the message but I will not infringe somebodies rights in order to shut it down, because then my rights are next to be infringed upon. Third: the only thing frivolous here was passing this act of legislation. A nearly identical act in SC had been found to be unconstitutional previously. The only thing accomplished by Rep. Mitch Gillespie, R-McDowell, was to waste a lot of resources including time and money, that could have been used in a much more constructive manner. There is no guarantee that one's viewpoint will always going to the "correct" one. To give up this right would be wrong.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 11, 2012

    There is nothing unconstitutional about the pro-life plate. What is unconstitutional is allowing it while disallowing plates with an opposing viewpoint.

  • MadBiker Dec 11, 2012

    This seems ridiculous to me. Is there a license plate opposing say the support of NC State or UNC? Is there a plate for haters of Dale Jr.?

  • Plenty Coups Dec 11, 2012

    "Go ahead and make a "choose abortion" plate, with little x's for the childs eyes! There you have it, both sides!"

    And once again, the problem is that the republicans squashed any attempt to to have an alternative viewpoint plate made available.

  • Trekker Dec 11, 2012

    “Go ahead and make a "choose abortion" plate, with little x's for the childs eyes! There you have it, both sides!” rndiadem1

    How about making a pro-life bumper sticker and keeping everyone’s views off of license plates. It’s kind of nice making some smug self-righteous stand with little if any commitment on your part. If you are HONESTLY pro-life realize the commitment doesn’t end with a license plate. Put your money where your mouths are and start raising some of these unwanted children and then maybe you’ll have a right to your views.

  • DavidJonathan Dec 11, 2012

    The headline is misleading. The pro-life plates themselves are not unconstitutional. It is the failure of the state to offer any alternative-viewpoint plates that is the issue. (Not that I agree with the anti-life position, just saying.)

  • Bartmeister Dec 11, 2012

    It lets others know they are not alone. Why do you think the Right were so keen that there was no opposition plate, why they stirred up such a fuss about the Atheist billboards a while back?
    Grand Union

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    Who needs a license plate to know there are others out there with a similar view? Not me. Also the billboard is purchased for that specific reason, to advertise or express a view. It's the sole purpose to get a message out. A neighbor's yard sign, license tag, or bumper sticker does nothing.

  • barnharj Dec 11, 2012

    First: The ACLU needs to start minding their own business. They are so far from what they started out. Maybe most of us don't want them interfering with our lives!

    Second: Judge Fox ought to also mind his own business. that suit should have been thrown out and so should he. It is time that the judges in this country started using common sense and throw these type of frivolous law suits out.

  • rndiadem1 Dec 11, 2012

    Its not religious, it is a suggestion to choose life instead of aborting a baby. Why should the life of an innocent little baby cause so much angst! Go ahead and make a "choose abortion" plate, with little x's for the childs eyes! There you have it, both sides!

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    it is the law that doesn't allow the other side to get the chance to express.....

    well put. it is that one side's religous belief is being supported by the state and any other dissenting voice is being deliberately excluded. It can not get any more fundemental even in 2012 than that

  • Da Toy Maker Dec 11, 2012

    Are we still at it??? Good grief. Read the whole article, please! The question is NOT whether "Choose Life" Plates are unconstitutional, it is the law that doesn't allow the other side to get the chance to express. It is not the issue of Pro-Choice or Pro-Life.

    Peace, yall!

  • soyousay Dec 11, 2012

    This page is over with!..

    evidently not

  • rationality Dec 11, 2012

    I'll offer a simple solution. Keep the Pro-Life license plates and divert the funds to help suicide hotlines.

  • retiredindependentpopo Dec 10, 2012

    This page is over with!

  • soyousay Dec 10, 2012

    You can also condemn a sin without condemning the sinner..

    yes you can, but that is not your style and only true if the other shares YOUR definition of sin

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 10, 2012

    Scientist - "You - Gizakiaren - are badly mistaken to indicate that those who "walk away free" are all men!"

    The keywords in my statements were "through the generations".

    You're the scientist. How many men have done that "through the generations" versus how many mothers have?

    I'm sorry about your family and your son. I truly am. But even you have to admit that was the exception rather than the rule.

    Praying for your son.

  • RM24 Dec 10, 2012

    You can also condemn a sin without condemning the sinner! You super intelligent beings should be able to comprehend.

  • RM24 Dec 10, 2012

    Its so funny to see all those all so tollerant continue to call others ignorant, and judge the level of hate in their heart, and call them extremist simply because someone disagrees on a blog.

  • retiredindependentpopo Dec 10, 2012

    Gizakiaren - I know what you are talking about. I can assure you probably 90-95% of child support documents are for "men". I understand exactly what you are saying.

  • RM24 Dec 10, 2012

    You can also realize that sin is wrong, and those commiting sin are wrong without hating them. You can also do this without judging them. To know a decision that is commited by someone does not mean you are judging them. To say they are bad people because they sin is judging. I'm ALL from freedom of choice. However I am against paying for others to have an abortion. If they can't afford condoms or birthcontroll then they can't afford to have sex. They should choose their priorities and and if sex is on the top of the list then they may have to do without something else. Or put their own money away every month so they can afford an abortion should they get pregnant. I don't hate them. I'm not judging them. I just don't wanna pay for it. And I can do that without hate in my heart. But I know some don't like to hear that.

  • Objective Scientist Dec 10, 2012

    I can see I should have directed my last comments to a few others in addition to Gizakiaren!

  • Objective Scientist Dec 10, 2012

    Hey Gizakiaren... I take exception with your statement "If you men hadn't walked away free through the generations, if you had ALL taken responsibility for the seed you spread...". Too many such statements are made as if it were fact and imply, if not explicitly state, that ALL men "walked away free". My "ex-wife" walked out without even saying "bye" to our 14 yo son who was significantly traumatized by that. As he now struggles with alcohol and drugs she wants to appear to all as the "caring" and loving mother who comes back in to support her son. Yet... she has supported him in NO way since she left... and did very little before leaving. You - Gizakiaren - are badly mistaken to indicate that those who "walk away free" are all men!

  • retiredindependentpopo Dec 10, 2012

    "If you men hadn't walked away free through the generations, if you had ALL taken responsibility for the seed you spread, perhaps we wouldn't be facing this issue now".

    You are correct. This is the culture we have become. The government will pay the bill, not the father.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 10, 2012

    blondton - "You want to save every baby in the world but not offer to feed every baby in the world."

    AMEN!!!

    That's why I call them Pro-Birthers instead of Pro-Lifers. They want every child to have life, but don't want to do what's necessary to give every child a life free of cold, hunger and neglect.

    And when one is born to a woman who doesn't take care of it, what do they do? Criticize the mother with abandon, as she rightly deserves, but do any of them step in and care for the child?

    Rarely!

    Even if our stupid courts would let them.

    Case in point, who's stepped in to not only remove Crystal Mangum's children from her, but to provide stable homes for them? Only the same people who raised her which gives those children little hope of ever turning out better than she did.

    pfffttt

    All talk, while children suffer or grow up in homes where they suffer and will never be an asset to society.

  • retiredindependentpopo Dec 10, 2012

    "They play and play and play, and when there are consequences, the vast majority of them RUN - leaving the woman holding the bag."

    AGAIN, you are absolutely correct!! You're good. I'm with you 100%.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Dec 10, 2012

    soyousay - "not really, look up moot"

    We ladies are smart enough to know what moot means pal.

    ALL - of the issues and circumstances some of us have had to face will never be on your foot. Some of them may be, but not ALL of them.

    And that is why a male's opinion of abortion is a moot point.

    We ladies don't want to hear it because too many of you males have been joyfully spreading your seed far and wide, running when that seed takes root.

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