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Comments :: 'Redesigning democracy' pondered at NCSU summit

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Institute term limits for all offices and do away with the ridiculous perks

So the Democrats want to redesign democracy. Guess they want to call oh something like arsitocracy, communism, fuedalism

ConservativeVoter: Our ancestors had it right when they only allowed property owners to vote.

This was to keep those who didn't pay taxes from voting to get entitlements and freebies from the government.

Much what happened with Obama's coalition of welfare and entitlement receivers who've elected him twice.

Me: This... is crazy talk. You seriously can't believe this can you? So, I, with two advanced degrees, a job closer to six figures than not, who has never taken a dime from the federal or state government should not be able to vote because I rent and don't own land?

I don't even know what to say. Ignorance has won the day.

But where does freedom of speech under the first amendment end and where do the lies and outright fabrications that some of these PAC ads purport every election end? I think we need to take these ads and filter them through our, hopefully, more reasonable selves and ask ourselves what is really the truth behind them. No, we cannot stop them, but we need to be more savvy about what is in them.

OK redesigning it is a good way to start.. 1) get rid of the retirement benefits (spiffs) the lackey's get in DC.. make them pay into a 401K and be vested after 5 years like the rest of us. 2) put them on Medicare like the rest of us

Everyone keeps parroting "campaign reform!" and "overturn citizens united!" without explaining what they plan to do about that pesky first amendment...

If I'm rich and want to speak about a candidate, including print ads, TV and radio airtime, internet ads and websites, and whatever else, you CAN NOT make that illegal.

It defies one of the fundamental rights of Americans to speak freely on politics and government.

The only thing citizens united really changes is that I can now pool my money with a bunch of other people who share the same ideas.

That ALSO shouldn't be illegal under the first amendment (and is why Citizens United was decided the way it was).

Until someone has an answer for that you're not getting anywhere.

The real reason they passed citizens united was because Ron Paul was raising more cash LEGALLY than either party. radium

No...he really wasn't.

He had one amazingly good quarter in 2008 where he outraised all the republican candidates. Hillary raised more

We are a Representative Republic, not a democracy. The problem is our elected officials are too concerned with getting re-elected. It is time we get someone in office who represents the people who put them there, not an interest in a political career, but an interest in serving the public. Congress was never meant to be a career, it was a service. www.facebook.com/embler4senate

This is just political smoke and mirrors, trying to put forth a false effort to make it seem they want to fix things when in fact they're the ones that broke it so it would benefit them and their pimps, the lobbyists. It is clear what has to be done, and they'll never do it, repeal Citizens United, take corporate money out of the elections, pass a law that for a TV station to get an FCC license they have to provide free air time to all candidates during elections, and institute term limits of eight years for ALL members of government. While the politicians have to act like prostitutes begging for money to get reelected or stay in office they can't represent we the people, it's a conflict of interest. Money and Democracy don't mix. They will fight Campaign Reform till the bitter end and the people revolt. Both sides are equally guilty, just look what they did to Ron Paul. The real reason they passed citizens united was because Ron Paul was raising more cash LEGALLY than either party.

Very simply, we no longer have much of a democracy left. Whoever can raise the most money with "secret" super pacs wins. Campaign Reform now -- everyone gets to spend the same money for every race - or have the govt host small websites for the candidates AND THAT"S IT.

Last I checked we are in a representative republic..

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