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westernwake1 Dec 7, 7:49 p.m.
Most of the education in the corporate world is provided online these days. It will be very beneficial for students to experience at least one online course in their K-12 years. It will prepare them for the workplace.
acceptorchange Dec 7, 7:21 p.m.
When taking an online course and you don't understand something so you raise your hand to ask a question....who answers? I think this may be leading toward our taxes providing every student with a computer which they will use to take all courses online while the teachers will teach from home. No supervision for the teachers or the students. But, no expense for school buildings, heating and cooling, buses, etc. Just look at the savings........and stupid students. But where will they put the obsolete computers?
busyb97 Dec 7, 6:56 p.m.
Most of those kids have more skills and knowledge on computers than their parents! And how many have smartphones and know how to use them. Please. Make it an optional elective for those who DON'T already have this sort of skill or resource, not a REQUIREMENT that just costs us tons of money. You know they'll try to find a way to get the e-devices into kids hands, and people will bilk the system for free stuff who don't truly qualify.
storchheim Dec 7, 6:35 p.m.
"The good thing is that if students don't have access to a compouter at home, they can always go to the public library (and many community colleges) and use computers after school hours for no charge." brand new handle
You must be one of the beneficiaries of this little cash grab.
The bad thing is that based on history, TheChildren won't be asked to go to that stupid old library where the computers are old and their mommies might have to drive them. And don't ask the mommies to pay either because don't you know, TheChildren are "OUR" future - when there's a bill to pay.
Who does that leave? Who else, the taxpayers. But the story will say "the schools" provided the computers.
storchheim Dec 7, 6:30 p.m.
"Maybe those who are legally blind will be excluded."
cjw, you...you...(words fail me)..you...DISABLIST, YOU! How dare you discriminate against the blind! They have a RIGHT to taxpayer-funded computers! Now stop hatin' just cause they're different!
(This is the second time today a scene from "Life of Brian" has played out on GOLO. Maybe the Mayans are right.)
storchheim Dec 7, 6:26 p.m.
I'm gonna lose it. Bottom line? Find out whose crony Tracy Weeks is and you'll know whose head should roll.
Atkinson next. I used to be glad she put Bev in her place, but now she's plainly telling us WE will buy the latest and greatest e-toys for each and every student in NC because hey, mommy doesn't want to cancel cable to pay for it herself and it's another way to steal money from the taxpayers. This is not being done with regard for children's benefit, it's another nail in our coffin and some big dough for a buddy.
Did Weeks hire someone name Perdue, with a start date of 1/6/13, by any chance?
one_nc_citizen Dec 7, 6:01 p.m.
kids already know how to use computers. They can figure out how to take an online class. Some one must be making money off this.
wolfpackfan15 Dec 7, 5:55 p.m.
I agree with you gingerlynn. Cheating will most likely go up while the number of students actually learning the material and doing well will go down. I don't know that requiring online courses will actually be helpful in the long run. More convenient? Maybe. But not helpful in terms of being educated properly and knowing all of the required material, therefore being prepared for college and the "real world". And as for being better prepared for college, I don't know many people who take online courses in college, so I don't know that requiring online courses in high school will be helpful in that regard either. The only way I can see this being helpful is for those who want to skate by and not do the work required of them. Most students who do want to do well (myself personnaly when I was in high school), will probably prefer having a teacher in front of the class rather than a computerized version anyway. But that's just my opinion.
claytontarheel Dec 7, 5:32 p.m.
There are plenty of ways to validate the learning at control points in the process. The current model of education has to change. My daughter wouldn't be doing nearly as well in school if she had to just rely on her local high school teachers. Khan Academy is responsible for at least 40% of her learning.
djofraleigh Dec 7, 5:20 p.m.
The poor Amish! The class could be take at school, and that would eliminate one teacher for all those taking this course since anyone could monitor such a class in the library. OR, maybe this is a foot in the door for a judge to order the state provide a computer and internet for all students taking this course at home.
gingerlynn Dec 7, 5:09 p.m.
Yes we definitely need to teach them how to work the system. It has been my experience with online college and high school classes as an administrator that they are rife with cheating. Someone else does the quizzes, homework, papers etc or notes are used. So then they come in to the one or two proctored exams and fail,but they do well enough with the fraudulent grades to eek out a pass for the course. Works perfect for students math or writing that the student could never pass when forced to do all of the work themselves. More watering down.
zenonx6 Dec 7, 4:40 p.m.
I think the country needs to start offering free classes. Then there would be no excuse for not having training,,, only there would be for not having a job,,, cause your government is backwards.
patrick85ed Dec 7, 4:39 p.m.
What if you do not have a computer and internet access in your home and do not want either?
zenonx6 Dec 7, 4:38 p.m.
So okay,,,,, ahhh .. You have to have health insurance whether you can afford it or not and you have to have a computer whether or not you can afford that. The higher ups need a wake up call,, reality check. Because everybody can't afford these things because they are only working three minimum wage jobs just to keep a roof, food and transportation because some imbecile let all the middle class jobs go over seas. And now you either have to work as many part time minimum wage jobs as you can or go to school to be a brain surgeon or rocket scientist whether or not you have the inclination or aptitude to do it or not. And what other kinds of S&M ideas does our incompetent leaders have in store for us in the future. Why is it that only non-sensible people run for office.
com_mon_sents Dec 7, 4:35 p.m.
Nothing like passing a requirement and then say that they need to look at the cost of the programs, etc. So typical of education in this state, particulary here in Wake. Co. Sort of like going a head and signing a mortage on a house and then see if you can afford the up keep.
Wenchmaid Dec 7, 4:17 p.m.
Ponyjumper, online degrees aren't any cheaper than traditional degrees. I finished my bachelor's degree and I am now working on my master's degree online through traditional colleges. I think this requirement is ridiculous. I had no trouble adapting to online classes.
Just Once Dec 7, 4:14 p.m.
Online courses Stink. All three of my kids have taken one and it is just and easy gig for the teacher. Very hard to be successful.
immaannoid Dec 7, 4:05 p.m.
"wow... all these complaints... about a group trying to do something about education and preparing our children for the real world." nicen
Wow, if you would have actually read the comments, you would realize the board is not really preparing our kids for the 21st century. It's a joke, and in all probability, someone is getting a kickback from the company(s) that stand to benefit from this.
cjw6105 Dec 7, 4:03 p.m.
Electives, yes. Mandates, no.
NiceNSmooth Dec 7, 3:51 p.m.
wow... all these complaints... about a group trying to do something about education and preparing our children for the real world.
MonkeyFace Dec 7, 3:50 p.m.
I think the course they should do is the one you have to take as a freshman in college, i forget the name of it, but it goes over how to write papers, study management, etc.
OleNCNative Dec 7, 3:48 p.m.
Lemme tell you, the kids taking those classes don't learn anything. Literally, they use their books/notes for all their tests and quizzes. Worthless.
superman Dec 7, 3:46 p.m.
The Carolina Sweetheart I dont know about ALL community colleges but I do know that several years ago Wake Tech would not allow you to use their computers unless you were enrolled and taking a class. If a student is going to college chances are their parents have internet and several computers and the student has already had more than enough computer practice and experience. We have 3 desktop computers and a laptop, 2 desktops that arent hooked up and 8 printers. All of them are for personal use.
ponyjumper07 Dec 7, 3:41 p.m.
It's not a bad idea and it's only one course. There are so many online courses offered at colleges, not to mention, entire degrees earned online for those that can't afford a traditional college education. This at least gets them some experience beforehand.
scorekeep Dec 7, 3:41 p.m.
Meanwhile, the state continues to have homeless students, students that can't read, students that will not attend school, parents that see no emphasis in education....don't the students use computers in school already and are doing on-line courses or programs????
rachel Dec 7, 3:39 p.m.
right up there with requiring students to "work for free" for someone and calling it community service-all "requirements" are to the financial benefit of someone and it isn't the students
RALEIGHNATIVE25 Dec 7, 3:37 p.m.
Hum....they already offer online courses through NC Virtual Public School. So I am pretty sure they know the cost and some of the course are taken at school where the computers and wireless are provided. Also, there was a company fighting to get a K-12 online charter school and they were denied so maybe they are trying to keep the $ to themselves.
superman Dec 7, 3:37 p.m.
I have had a computer and have taught computer classes for many many years. I cant think of a single advantage of taking an on-line class unless they just need some computer experience. We have 4 grandchildren and last year we bought each of them a laptop. Ages 4, 8, 14, and 17. I dont understand how they can be sure that the person on the computer is the one that signed up for the class. When my neighbors children have school projects--they end up doing the work and the student gets a good grade for an adult done project. There are just too many variables for this to work. Scrap the plan now.
Dnut Dec 7, 3:35 p.m.
scorekeep Dec 7, 3:28 p.m.
This absurdity is along the same lines of requiring students to be skilled in CPR before they can graduate.
The Carolina Sweetheart Dec 7, 3:28 p.m.
I think this is an excellent idea! An online course will help better prepare our children for online college courses! Most major universities require students to take an online course at some time during their college career. I don't agree with NC on many things but kudos to you for this requirement! I agree that they should have an idea of the costs and a plan as to how this will work, but they have given themselves ample time to figure it all out. The good thing is that if students don't have access to a compouter at home, they can always go to the public library (and many community colleges) and use computers after school hours for no charge. I think this is a great idea!
immaannoid Dec 7, 3:07 p.m.
It's amazing how ridiculous "educators" are. If you have ever taken an online course, then you know how awful they are.
My bet is that the board was lobbied by a company that stands to profit by this requirement.
Additionally, where is the data that shows online courses "help students be better prepared to be 21st century learners beyond their secondary school years"? Where is it?
It doesn't take much to get a degree in education. My goodness.
jahudson Dec 7, 3:03 p.m.
Not a bad idea. But I agree. The cost and details should be lined up before making it a requirement. Of course, it does not go into effect till 2020 ... so I guess that gives them time.
carrboroyouth Dec 7, 3:01 p.m.
Blehh I am in college and am trying to avoid taking online courses. My kind folks paid for an instructor, not a computer, to teach me... it's hard to avoid signing up due to all the cuts to sections :/
I guess that's the way things are going now.
cjw6105 Dec 7, 2:54 p.m.
They'll need, of course, to appoint a task force to figure out who qualifies for discounted or free computers/Internet service.
Maybe those who are legally blind will be excluded.
Wiser_now Dec 7, 2:41 p.m.
They approve the measure but still need to look at the cost and the details??? Have they never heard of the cart and horse story?
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03