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"surely a better solution would be for neither party to have a gun?" - Grand Union

NO, that's not "surely a better solution". Sometimes the BEST solution is for the victim to have a gun, whether or not their attacker(s) have them.

"the odds of them being able to use a gun to help protect themselves vanishingly small." - Grand Union

Yet I've given you example after example after example of people doing just that, and protecting others too.

Lightfoot3
December 10, 2012 12:28 p.m.

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@Grand Union, you are factually wrong. The majority of guns obtained for criminal use, is through illegal sales, stolen weapons are a part, but the primary is illegal sales. Check the DOJ, website.

Dnut
December 10, 2012 12:22 p.m.

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@seankelly15,obviously you've never been in combat.

Dnut
December 10, 2012 12:17 p.m.

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Sad, very sad. We have eaten several times at this restaruant and found it to be quite nice. I can only think if the manager had parked in front, with all the lighting then perhaps he would still be alive today. Realistically, I would never park behind some strip mall even if the lighting was good. Be aware, be very aware of your surroundings.

Not_Time_Yet
December 7, 2012 6:44 p.m.

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"It's dispiriting to see everyone flogging talking points."

Without talking about these issues how is change for the better ever going to happen? Would silence have ended slavery and Jim Crow? Would silence have ended DADT? US guns laws are killing about 8000 Americans every year. Grand Union

Banning has never worked and never will. Whether that be alcohol, drugs, or guns. The process of banning something makes that a desirable item and trust me people will supply that which is desired and especially that which the government has made hard to get.

NCHighlander
December 7, 2012 6:18 p.m.

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The 9/11 murderers did it with box cutters. What should we do; ban all box cutters?

Mike H
December 7, 2012 6:13 p.m.

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Also please explain how Anders Breivik could have murdered ninety two people with knives, bats, bare hands or a car. Actually he did it with those harmless guns the National Rifle Association wants everyone to have. piene2

Timothy Mcveigh killed 168.....no gun. If there is a will there's a way. Guns or not. And you can make them illegal all you want, bad guys don't obey the law. Stop making them, they'll makeshift. Your gun control argument is a moot point. Move on

Nauti-dog
December 7, 2012 6:07 p.m.

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This is the result of a generation of bad apples merely coming of age. Young, ignorant, and entitled. You've been warned.