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  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 4:19 p.m.

    westernwake1"

    Sorry, but they are "renaming" the bridge for Larry Wilson. Key word there "renaming" and Wilson was never charged with anything. He was a fundraiser...I think that's a little different than a seated Senator for 30 years that was openly verbal with his opinions on inequality for women, African-American, and homosexuals. Besides Wilson was never indicted it was Poole that was convicted for tax evasion. So you want to fault Wilson by association? Helms openly and consistently insulted women, black people and gay people with no shame. I heard the things he said openly, there are television and radio recording of his vile opinions. I am not accusing Helms of these things they are facts. Not so much for Wilson.

  • westernwake1 Dec 7, 3:44 p.m.

    "Yeah... the state is too busy naming bridges for people who were part of a fund raising conspiracy that led to multiple indictments. westernwake1"

    'Yes, but that "conspiracy" didn't come out until after that fact.' - workinghuman33

    Huh... Bev Purdue is naming the bridge for a fund raising conspirator in the Easley scandal THIS WEEK. The conspiracy has been known for years. Larry Wilson was a major fundraiser for Gov. Mike Easley. 'He resigned in 2010 as federal prosecutors were about to release a 51-count indictment against Ruffin Poole, a former aide to Easley. Poole served a one year federal sentence for tax evasion.'

    It is not like the bridge was named for Larry Wilson years ago... and the conspiracy only came out this week.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 3:21 p.m.

    that jesse helms was anti black is a lie that racist blacks have spread to the weak minded people to believe. it's very obvivous very few readers here have a clue who jesse was......
    wildpig777"

    If you aren't a tobacco cropper, or unless you have been living under a rock for 40 years, or ya'll aint from around here then you don't know anything about Jesse Helms with your statement. Helms was openly against women's equality, he was openly against African-Americans having equality, and he was most certainly a homophobic...he openly stated that he felt HIV/AIDS was Gods punishment for the homosexuals. "Anti-Black" how quaint...it's called racism.

  • Bill Brasky Dec 7, 2:54 p.m.

    "No, that is not what they said. They said a "large segment" of the population, not most of the population. That is a BIG difference. Yes, there are still a LOT of people that still feel that way unfortunately."

    A large segment could mean a majority, and enough to overturn a law. I would hope a very small segment, if zero, of NC's population would favor repeal of Civil Rights laws. We are talking about equality of the races here.

    Either way I feel that above statement was quite ridiculous.

  • issymayake Dec 7, 2:27 p.m.

    "Not that I like Byrd either, but at least he left the Klan and denounced his former membership. He was a product of his times, who changed and denounced his former views. Jesse Helms never denounced his racist past." - issymayake

    Yet so many of Byrd's votes were in lock-step with Helms. I guess the moral of the story is if you are a Democrat then the liberals with forgive all and plaster your name across every possible building and highway. However if you are a Republican with the exact same views then you will be treated as a pariah and not have your name on a single building. I get it now.
    westernwake1

    #1 It really doesn't have to be a eye for an eye thing. Democrats/Republican I don't give a care, Jesse Helms was a divisive man and shouldn't have his name on a federal building.

    #2 I don't live in West Virginia, so I don't care what they do. I was born in and live in North Carolina.

  • jacksun48 Dec 7, 2:10 p.m.

    Jessie Helms was good to his white constituents because it was self serving behavior that helped get him re-elected every six years. The man was not someone I would want in my family tree.

  • wildpig777 Dec 7, 2:03 p.m.

    that jesse helms was anti black is a lie that racist blacks have spread to the weak minded people to believe. it's very obvivous very few readers here have a clue who jesse was......

  • SMAPAEA Dec 7, 1:55 p.m.

    I saw a comment about Senator Bryd from WV. He may have been a KKK member, but as he aged, he was good to the Arts, something Mr.Helms never was. Terry Sanford was the Senator from NC that helped my dad when Helms would not. Why not name after him...Terry Sanford

  • btneast Dec 7, 1:54 p.m.

    One person on this threat even went so far as to say that most North Carolinians are still against Civil Rights.

    ...No, that is not what they said. They said a "large segment" of the population, not most of the population. That is a BIG difference. Yes, there are still a LOT of people that still feel that way unfortunately.

  • superman Dec 7, 1:54 p.m.

    I remember reading when I was in high school "The evil that men do lives after them and the good is enterred in their bones" So be it with Helms--the evil that he did is still fresh in our minds and remembered.

  • SMAPAEA Dec 7, 1:53 p.m.

    Maybe they should just name a bridge after him...I think I might know of one...

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 1:48 p.m.

    Yeah... the state is too busy naming bridges for people who were part of a fund raising conspiracy that led to multiple indictments. westernwake1""

    Yes, but that "conspiracy" didn't come out until after that fact. WE ALL KNOW what Helms' views were because he was very verbal consistently. Since we do know that as a fact then why insult the rest of our citizens by rubbing it in their faces that some North Carolinians find misogyny, racism and homophobia perfectly acceptable. A lot of us find his misogynistic views, racism and homophobia deplorable, disgusting, and highly unacceptable.

  • westernwake1 Dec 7, 1:15 p.m.

    "It is a relief to hear this is a federal building instead of a state building. I have no doubt the people in this state who benefited from his moral hypocrisy and bankruptcy would find a way to force his name onto a state building, and someday will." - jackflash123

    Yeah... the state is too busy naming bridges for people who were part of a fund raising conspiracy that led to multiple indictments.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 1:05 p.m.

    You know we still have buildings downtown that say whites only and colored only. Are they going to use one of those buildings to name after him?
    TeresaBee"

    I can't remember which BBQ restaurant in Raleigh has walls that say whites only and colored only, but I believe one still does from the Jim Crow BS. I think that would be far more appropriate considering Helms legacy. As in this is what he supported and this is who he was.

  • TeresaBee Dec 7, 12:55 p.m.

    You know we still have buildings downtown that say whites only and colored only. Are they going to use one of those buildings to name after him?

  • Eric the Actor Dec 7, 12:50 p.m.

    Go ahead and make us look, to the rest of the country, as the backwards yokels so many of you wish we could remain.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 12:45 p.m.

    liberals with forgive all and plaster your name across every possible building -westernwake1"

    I do believe it was one poster that responded to you about Byrd. I don't forgive Byrd or anyone else that was a KKK member. Isn't he from West Virginia? So, you are just going to lump anyone that is a Democrat or Liberal in with one persons opinion? Gee how very well rounded and open-minded of you.

  • westernwake1 Dec 7, 12:32 p.m.

    "Not that I like Byrd either, but at least he left the Klan and denounced his former membership. He was a product of his times, who changed and denounced his former views. Jesse Helms never denounced his racist past." - issymayake

    Yet so many of Byrd's votes were in lock-step with Helms. I guess the moral of the story is if you are a Democrat then the liberals with forgive all and plaster your name across every possible building and highway. However if you are a Republican with the exact same views then you will be treated as a pariah and not have your name on a single building. I get it now.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 12:26 p.m.

    Why can't he be recognized for his long time service? I think it is a shame not to allow one building to carry his name based on biased opinion and hatred for the man. He did other good things in his lifetime.. that should be recognized. dae66""

    It is not a BIASED opinion to call Jesse Helms a misogynist, racist or a homophobic. His own vile words confirmed this time and time again. So I guess you're alright with women, blacks and gay/lesbian North Carolinians as well as Americans being reminded DAILY that Jesse Helms thought until the day he died that they were all "less than him" and undeserving of equality? Raleigh is small and I pray that I don't know you because if you honestly feel that's alright you are no more and no less than Helms....In my opinion.

  • dae66 Dec 7, 12:11 p.m.

    Why can't he be recognized for his long time service? I think it is a shame not to allow one building to carry his name based on biased opinion and hatred for the man. He did other good things in his lifetime.. that should be recognized.

  • carlostheass Dec 7, 12:06 p.m.

    I don't support naming anything after Jesse Helms either. It was a really bad idea.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 11:53 a.m.

    A federal decision is far more likely to take a stand against the evil and hatred he stood for.-jackflash123""

    Excellent point, and I pray you are correct.

  • jackflash123 Dec 7, 11:47 a.m.

    Helms always stood up for his constituents... unless they were Black, female, gay, disabled, HIV+, or anything else he could misuse the Bible to hate.

    It is a relief to hear this is a federal building instead of a state building. I have no doubt the people in this state who benefited from his moral hypocrisy and bankruptcy would find a way to force his name onto a state building, and someday will. A federal decision is far more likely to take a stand against the evil and hatred he stood for.

  • issymayake Dec 7, 11:37 a.m.

    They have named highways and buildings all over West Virginia for Democratic Senator Robert Byrd. He was a well-known KKK member. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan

    Why the furor over naming one single building over Jesse Helms?
    westernwake1

    Not that I like Byrd either, but at least he left the Klan and denounced his former membership. He was a product of his times, who changed and denounced his former views. Jesse Helms never denounced his racist past.

  • Zorg Dec 7, 11:22 a.m.

    Hmm, let's have a look... Filibustered to stop passage in the Senate for Martin Luther King day, opposed desegregation, opposed federal funding of AIDS research and treatment (believed it was God's punishment for homosexuals), Sang "Dixie" to Carol Moseley Braun, the first black woman in the Senate ("Watch me make her cry"), voted against medical care for disabled veterans. Some legacy.

  • westernwake1 Dec 7, 11:19 a.m.

    They have named highways and buildings all over West Virginia for Democratic Senator Robert Byrd. He was a well-known KKK member. -
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Ku_Klux_Klan

    Why the furor over naming one single building over Jesse Helms?

  • bubbaOK Dec 7, 11:17 a.m.

    The "majority rules" principal's a handmaiden to aparteid, and the black subculture. Ruling ought take every viewpoint to bear and when it doesn't, the grumbling and griping deafen. In the state & triangle, times were different; life was much better without the shuddering hoard. Hunt's messianic hunkering down for >"Gary"< caused the heeby jeebies.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 11:12 a.m.

    Love him or hate him, he deserves recognition, just like the others that were in similar thought areas as him.-driverkid3"

    As if ANYONE could possibly forget that vile man. So you think it's right to recognize him by naming a federal building after him? In our beautiful state wouldn't that constantly remind women that he was against their equality, remind African-Americans that he was against their equality, and remind our gay/lesbian citizens that he was also against the health and their equality??....gosh how thoughtful and kind.

  • amenmike Dec 7, 11:12 a.m.

    Jesse Helms never represented my bests interests he advocated abridging and abrogating my rights and the rights of other minorities. He was a horrible, bigotted and hateful man.

  • themacs Dec 7, 11:09 a.m.

    Even if you admire and respect Senator Helms, can you understand that because of his attempts to block civil rights and voting rights legislation the African Americans in our state (22% of our population) might feel insulted by this type of recognition? Is that important? Is it better to make decisions like this by consensus or by ramrod? Would this type of recognition lead to something positive for our state? Or would it serve to further divide us?

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 11:06 a.m.

    Helm's had a backbone and didn't pander to groups with their own agendas. -jeffjohnson123""

    Helms was misogynistic, racist and homophobic....that wiped out anything on his record that might possibly be considered "positive" to me. He was disrespectful, hateful and mean. He ran the ugliest of campaigns..in history. Hitler was a decorated veteran of WW I, a charismatic orator. He wanted to wipe our Marxism & the Germans thought he was fantastic & aligned themselves with him. He was also an anti-Semite & murdered 6 million Jewish human beings. Any good in him was snuffed out by all the evil in him.

  • Nope Dec 7, 11:03 a.m.

    "He was a representative for all "

    ALL being defined as straight, white, and male.

  • jjkilgore2 Dec 7, 10:41 a.m.

    "If the truth be known a large segment of the population even today would favor repeal of Civil rights laws." - kikinc

    If you were remotely aware of the truth "kikinc" your own civil rights would suffer as a result of any "repeal."

  • driverkid3 Dec 7, 10:30 a.m.

    Scubagirl, I agree with you on this post: December 6, 2012 6:43 p.m. He held his own opinions and expressed them as he had every right to do. Sure, people are not going to agree with him, and yes, he had some meanness in him. I can think of a lot of people in DC now that have the same thing going on but from a more popular stand. Mr. helms was the person that got me interested in and involved in the political process. And the thing that I admire the most about him is that When he was with WRAL, he truly balanced things out. Love him or hate him, he deserves recognition, just like the others that were in similar thought areas as him. I met him severral times, and he was ALWAYS a gentleman and took the time to really talk to people. That's something you don't see with a lot of the politicians these days.

  • jeffjohnson123 Dec 7, 10:29 a.m.

    Helm's had a backbone and didn't pander to groups with their own agendas. He was a representative for all and served the NC people for many years. Haters have to hate someone, those who dislike him need to examine his record closer.

  • ripetomatoes Dec 7, 10:29 a.m.

    Jim Hunt's bottom lip will never stop quivering...

  • NiceNSmooth Dec 7, 10:19 a.m.

    He may represent a portion of the population of NC, but that was also a number of years ago, the state has changed and he has never represented ALL of NC.

    Yes, and that portion of NC is getting smaller by the day!! Soon the good ol boy network in NC will be a thing of the past! I think good ol Jesse is turning over in his grave knowing that a half AA man won the vote for president and came very close a second time.

    Jesse is not a man I want the world to think represnts the state of NC

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 10:17 a.m.

    George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves but how many of you would call for the removal of their statutes-trekkie13"

    I do believe in the 1980's several folks called for their removal off of Mt. Rushmore. Washington & Jefferson both did own slaves. Washington freed all of his prior to dying. Jefferson had actually inherited hundreds of slaves from both parents upon their death. John Adams was a devout Abolitionist, the subject of slavery was pointed out when writing the Constitution & Declaration of Independence & Jefferson pointed out that he would indeed like to free all the slaves but the establishment of our country & our independence was more important at the moment & the slave issue would have to be put off for a time. Furthermore, Jefferson had a long standing relationship with slave Sally Hemings (which came out in his 1st term of presidency) which bore several children that were freed & left inheritance in his will. Both died near 100 years prior to Helms' birth.

  • NYtoNC81 Dec 7, 10:14 a.m.

    Huey: Helms never was even accused of dishonestly, personal immorality

    Me: Um, basically saying an entire race of people don't deserve what his race has is inherently immoral.

  • bubbaOK Dec 7, 10:12 a.m.

    That is not very nice of you to defenestrate brother Jesse like that.
    But I saw people take up money in 5 gal buckets for Gant.

  • bill0 Dec 7, 10:11 a.m.

    "owever, as others have alluded to these men were products of their time. It is unfair to judge a person based off of so called 2012 standards when history should be studied from what was going on at the time.
    "

    Nobody is using 2012 standards. Helms opposed civil right WHILE the civil rights bill was being passed. You can only use the "everyone was doing it" argument when everyone was actually doing it. Helms had a choice of what side to be on and he picked the racists and bigoted side. He then clung to that side for about 30 more years.

    It is strange to see "conservatives" rallying behind him now. He absolutely was NOT a fiscal conservative. All the talk about him "helping his constituents" is mostly a tribute to the PORK he worked tirelessly to slip into the federal budget. Helmes was much closer to an old-time political boss than a reagan republican.

  • kikinc Dec 7, 10:06 a.m.

    "If the truth be known a large segment of the population even today would favor repeal of Civil rights laws."

    Then those people are more than welcome to leave and go to country that oppresses their fellow citizens.

    This one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard.

  • r u crazy too Dec 7, 10:05 a.m.

    Jesse is an Republican icon, much like Reagon. He is probably the most polarizing figure in North Carolina history, even more so than M.L. King. While people in this state elected him 5 times to the Senate, there were many, many people in this state that were ashamed and embarassed by his actions. If you listen to his WRAL commentaries and look at his voting record, there is little doubt of rascist tendency. Jesse Helms: you either really love him,..... or you really hate him! Not a figure for a public building to be named after!

  • corgimom06 Dec 7, 10:03 a.m.

    Ellmer must know that Helms is at best, a controversial figure in NC politics. Part of me wonders if she is just trying to stir the pot. I personally have a problem with a building named after someone who was anti-women's rights, anti-civil rights, anti-gay rights, and anti-HIV research. He may represent a portion of the population of NC, but that was also a number of years ago, the state has changed and he has never represented ALL of NC. I think Ellmers is simply trying to bring attention to herself.

  • ladyofthehouse Dec 7, 9:57 a.m.

    Love him or hate him, he kept his word. He didn't tell us one thing to get elected and then flip flop into something else when he got to Washington and he did help everyday people who wrote or called him. He was available and a great advocate. I wish we had more integrity and honest people in Washington now.

  • whatelseisnew Dec 7, 9:46 a.m.

    " Doesn't North Carolina have enough of that sort of legacy lingering to this day."

    Only in the minds of the racists and bigots on the left. I don't know how widespread that is, but millions upon millions of lefties are haters, racists, and bigots.

    This past election was classic. Accusation upon accusation that people that would vote for Romney were doing so because they would not vote for a Black Man. I can't figure out how Obama won twice given the rhetoric from the left about how horribly racist this country continues to be. There is some truth to that, but mostly the racism and hatred is from the left. Time to look in them mirror folks.

  • Huey Dec 7, 9:43 a.m.

    So many "Americans" are now ashamed of our history. The nation's founders were slave owners and only recently have any of our leaders been what they can call politically correct. Won't be long til history is no longer even mentioned in schools. Our ancestors were not perfect but many did fight, dedicate their lives, and even die for the government we have today. Helms never was even accused of dishonestly, personal immorality, or any of the acts we accept as common among our politicians today. He deserves our respect. He served our state better than any other in DC that I can think of. If our nations survives, I can only imagine how its leaders will be judged in the future.

  • trueblue0100 Dec 7, 9:41 a.m.

    Jesse Helms had more honor in his little finger than every politician in washington dc combined!.....jcd241959

    Where do you people come up with this ignorance? His legacy is that he was a racist and nothing more; it's pure and simple. Any fool who thinks otherwise is just that....a fool.

    I guess you people didn't notice his resemblance to Hitler. You did know that they were related didn't you?

  • trekkie13 Dec 7, 9:38 a.m.

    George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves but how many of you would call for the removal of their statutes. Granted I understand they played many times a more important role in the history of this country then Helms did. However, as others have alluded to these men were products of their time. It is unfair to judge a person based off of so called 2012 standards when history should be studied from what was going on at the time.

  • workinghuman33 Dec 7, 9:35 a.m.

    , Helms fought against funding early HIV and AIDS research because he felt that those who got the disease had done something to deserve it.-Diva RN"

    You are correct...but oddly he was all for HIV & AIDS research in South Africa because they got the disease from heterosexual sex, needles, blood transfusions and the like. Helms ran 2 of the most expensive and ugliest campaigns in history against Gov. Jim Hunt & Mayor Harvey Gantt....Helms was a ruthless individual...he was as mean as all get out...just vile. Yuck.

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