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snossg1 Dec 10, 12:14 p.m.
I think this is great that they have saved money and should be rewarded not crticized. I am sure there are many things they cut that this could now be appropraited to Reward people for making tough decisions. Perhaps they can fund more graduation coaches through communities in schools of wake county? Maybe hire some TAs that were cut?
cwmllc1952 Dec 10, 9:28 a.m.
All government funded departments are watching and some laughing. Policy has always been if we don't spend it all this year we can't get more next year. Fire Stations,Rescue,Police,Garbage,Road Maintanence,Accounts Receivable,Payroll and on and on.The only money management is More!More!More!!!!! More,more,more! Thanks Billy
JSKJ Dec 7, 4:49 p.m.
buy some books. you realize that Wake County middle school students don't have any books don't you?
Comments Dec 7, 3:19 p.m.
It's amazing that this dysfunctional system and board are allowed to TAKE 77 cents of every tax dollar we pay.
westernwake1 Dec 7, 10:28 a.m.
'westernwake l In other words, the denial of the grant (if you read the full article) had nothing to do with the end of the bussing for diversity assignment policy.'
"It didnt give a reason and you just jumped in and either assumed you knew what it was or made one up yourself." - superman
In that case the denial of over 1.5 Billion in federal grants from 1979 to 2009 are all due to the Bussing for Diversity assignment policy (if we use your reasoning).
superman Dec 6, 7:58 p.m.
westernwake l In other words, the denial of the grant (if you read the full article) had nothing to do with the end of the bussing for diversity assignment policy.
It didnt give a reason and you just jumped in and either assumed you knew what it was or made one up yourself.
superman Dec 6, 7:53 p.m.
If you want to review the boards financial responsiblity what was the balance for the last 5 years. Is the balance increasing or decreasing. How much has the budget allocation increased every year. Were there any audit exceptions or recommendations made by the auditors. Where were these savings made? Was the budget inflated? Just looking at the fund balance and making any sort of assumption is like looking at the last page of a book. I am sure they make a lot of grant applications but they dont make the news or they are discussed openly in board meetings.
westerwake1 How about the link?
westernwake1 Dec 6, 11:17 a.m.
For the 30 years (1979-2009) that the Democrats ran the Wake County School board using the bussing for diversity policy, the school system failed to get over $1.5 Billion in federal grants they applied for.
For the two years (2010/2011) that the Republicans held a majority in the school board, the system has failed to get approx $47M in federal grants the Wake County School System applied for.
Let's hold the feet of the Democrats to the fire for their failure to get all of this $1.5 Billion in federal grant funds for our children while they were in charge.
westernwake1 Dec 6, 10:54 a.m.
"westernwake http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/30/710759/feds-deny-wakes-magnet-grant.html Sorry but the grant they didnt get was only 10 million" - superman
The Wake County school system puts in for over 100 federal grants each and every single year. Most of these grants are rejected. They apply for grants for everything from fuel money, lunch program funds, facilities, technology, and everything else imaginable.
Let's read the text of your article - 'North Carolina's largest school district was not among those sharing the $100 million in grants announced today by U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan. No school districts in the state were among the 36 winners... No reason was given for why Wake fell short.'
In other words, the denial of the grant (if you read the full article) had nothing to do with the end of the bussing for diversity assignment policy.
'He pointed out that Wake didn't win a $7.5 million grant in 2004 when it had the diversity policy.'
superman Dec 6, 10:24 a.m.
beaupeep-danny22 I was Finance Director for a large school system. The funding you are making reference to is state funding and state allocation. Yes you lose them if you dont spend it. However, a school finance office will make sure the state funding is spent before you start dipping into your other resources. You dont lose federal funding or local if it is not spent. You allocate state instructional supply money first. Schools always have a lot of needs and a good finance director would never allow money to be spent and wasted. As Finance Director no person other than myself had the authority to purchase anything without my signature on a signed purchase order--including the Supt. I had the full support of the Supt. as well as the Board of Education to enforce it.
westernwake1 Dec 6, 10:18 a.m.
Let me make a prediction. Wake County has been spectacularly unsuccessful in finding a new qualified Superintendent from out of state. The board will settle on an in-state selection whose sole qualification is their loyalty to the Democratic party.
Once this selection is announced this is the last that you will ever hear of this $32M surplus; it will magically disappear and never be mentioned again.
superman Dec 6, 9:59 a.m.
westernwake http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/30/710759/feds-deny-wakes-magnet-grant.html Sorry but the grant they didnt get was only 10 million.
common_sense_plz Dec 6, 9:48 a.m.
since it is school board policy to give some of that money back, then they have to give that money back. The county can set that money aside for future request from the school board. With this amount that the school board has it is VERY clear and obvious to me that the former majority of the wake county school board and its former leader Mr. Tata, did an excellent job with our tax dollars. This current majority on the school board had to know how much they had in reserve before asking the county for $8.8million, yet they turn around and ask for this amount and Mr. Sutton wants to keep it. Mr. Sutton YOU CANNOT DO THAT ACCORDING TO THE BOARDS POLICY.
HANS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! JK Dec 6, 9:46 a.m.
It'll be a good day when we don't have to hear about something regarding Wake County schools. Worse than wotching a bunch of kids arguing over a toy
superman Dec 6, 9:43 a.m.
westernwake1 I dont have a link but you are smart enough to find it yourself. It happened right after the board started or was working on the new plan about 2 years ago as I recall. The feds gave no reason why it wasnt awarded and by the time the school wanted to appeal the decision the money was awarded to another system. Does it make any difference that it was a one time grant? Thirty million is 30 million. I guess you agree on the 3 million they spent on a new school and then changed their mind and the money for Dr. Burns and Tater.
sbr1963 Dec 6, 8:38 a.m.
They can used that money instead of asking the public for more!
Screw WrAl Dec 6, 8:23 a.m.
Wow, great. They won't need anymore bond money from me or you.
So don't ask me, you worst run school system in America.
Fun Dec 6, 8:13 a.m.
And this great budget item occurred under whose leadership?
Thank you Mr. Tatta ! Now lets cut another additional 10% this year.
beaupeep Dec 5, 7:58 p.m.
What Danny22 said is true. The old "use it or lose it next year" deal.
Danny22 Dec 5, 7:41 p.m.
Let them keep it as a reward for being prudent. I worked in the school system 31 yrs and there was many a dollar wasted because we had to spend it last minute because it would be taken if not spent.
Nancy Dec 5, 7:29 p.m.
poor superman, still talking about a non existent $30 million grant to schools. He just can't let that fallacy go.
2010: "North Carolina's largest school district was not among those sharing the $100 million in grants announced today by U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan. No school districts in the state were among the 36 winners."
And of course grant monies are one time shots.
beaupeep Dec 5, 7:16 p.m.
"They spent another 3 million for the location of a new school and they changed their mind." - superman
Would that be the totally innappropriate site that the former board bought from their friends?
beaupeep Dec 5, 7:14 p.m.
Nice job, Mr. Tata, your leadership seems to have paid nice dividends.
Oh, wait, the new guys let you go. My, how embarrassing for them.
Dr.Phil Dec 5, 7:12 p.m.
take the surplus and bet it against the Panthers
notkidding Dec 5, 7:07 p.m.
Invest the budget surplus to deploy/use technology, so that we can increase productivity and REDUCE the number of schools, staff (teachers + administrators) we'll need over time.
MonkeyFace Dec 5, 6:51 p.m.
hire more teachers/school workers, build a much needed school... humm....
TITAN4X4 Dec 5, 6:29 p.m.
I want to see other agencies all over the state make these types of cuts, then the state can put them in the the safe labled "debt repayment".
whatelseisnew Dec 5, 6:29 p.m.
"They would have had another 33 million reserve had they gotten a 30 million federal grant that was given to another school"
I am glad they do not have it. The Federal Government is bankrupt.
whatelseisnew Dec 5, 6:27 p.m.
NOw folks, keep in mind that PRIOR to the republicans taking over the board and the cuts the WAKE COUNTY system was spending 1.9+ billion and still demanding more from the county. Isn't it magical how that went down to 1.25 and they have 32million dollars. Course, now that the Dems are back in control they are immediately demanding a bond to put the taxpayers in the county deeper in debt. I say hand out the 32 million as vouchers to let kids attend private schools.
SaveEnergyMan Dec 5, 6:21 p.m.
If you spend it on additional staff, then you'll have to provide that money every year - called recurring costs. How about they use the $12 million to help build one of those schools they're going to ask Wake County for soon? OR, they could use it to maintain some of the buildings - many of which need help from deferred maintenance to save money.
11of10j Dec 5, 6:16 p.m.
I am sure they will find something to spend it on and then scream they need more.
whistler411 Dec 5, 6:11 p.m.
Bonus for employees who have seen no step raise in 4 years?
arfamr1007 Dec 5, 6:08 p.m.
Thank the republicans for that surplus...good job people...too bad that now the democrats will blow it all on nothing
LuvLivingInCary Dec 5, 5:57 p.m.
if you've ever worked in government you would know you never have unused money left over YOU SPEND IT...Government Spending Rule #1.
westernwake1 Dec 5, 5:50 p.m.
"They would have had another 33 million reserve had they gotten a 30 million federal grant that was given to another school." - superman
Once again, Superman, please provide a link to the source of your assertion. There was NEVER a 30 million federal grant provided to another school. This was federal stimulus money that was discontinued to all school systems in 2010.
westernwake1 Dec 5, 5:48 p.m.
So the financial policies and budgeting put in place by former Superintendent Tony Tata has allowed the school system to save $32 million.
Let's see how long it takes the next Superintendent appointed by the Democratic board to blow all of this money.
superman Dec 5, 5:41 p.m.
They would have had another 33 million reserve had they gotten a 30 million federal grant that was given to another school. They spent another 3 million for the location of a new school and they changed their mind. Then there is another 150k they gave Dr. Burns when they placed him on administative leave. And lastly $250k for x-general tater when they placed him on leave. Certainly doesnt convince me that they are doing a good job with their finances. Tedesco and Goldman were extremely vocal when the board gave the money to Tater. He has now changed his tune. Tedesco cant figure out which side of the road he is on.
Scubagirl Dec 5, 5:41 p.m.
Knowing that they have a 32 MILLION dollar surplus means I will most definitely vote NO on ANY school bonds!!!! The nerve of the board asking for $$ w/ that much put away.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03