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  • mikeyj Nov 30, 5:33 p.m.

    If relatives want to care for and keep the children-provided they aren't also breaking the law-wouldn't that be better for them than foster care?

    Scubagirl, your write this but try to understand. That there are certain family members that just do not want kids around period. If all of a sudden these two children are thrust upon relatives that have that feeling; It may well re-endanger the treatment these kids get from relatives that think these 2 are a "burden" upon their own freedoms. In setting up guardianship for my own daughter I had to have serious sitdowns privately with family as to be certain they understood my daughter's care was going to be a lifelong challenge. It would not end at 30-40.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 5:29 p.m.

    And as for common sense, you're right - it doesn't seem to be as common as it once was.

    Now sheepskins and book learning trumps all, so people don't nurture common sense like they once did.

    And here we are...often surrounded pretty much by educated non-thinkers who can't figure out their right sock from their left one.

    (And for those who don't know and get caught up in over thinking that, there is no difference. sigh)

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 5:27 p.m.

    justcommonsense - "Interesting that so many here seem to know what meth smells like..hmmmm."

    Some of us have been around for a long time, before meth (along with a few other drugs) was as controlled a substance as it is now.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 5:25 p.m.

    "And there's no way someone else in that family didn't know what they were doing. PERIOD!!!"

    And, anyone who lived near them. It's not difficult to detect in the air, like being near a still is easy to detect.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 5:24 p.m.

    JCC - "As to searching the web about meth production... why in the world would I research something that I have no interest in."

    It helps one to understand without question rather than to question what others already know about - perhaps through personal experience, or because THEY used the www to research it before commenting on it.

  • justcommonsense Nov 30, 5:08 p.m.

    Glad you are so all know Heuman Bean about what others may or may not know.

    As to searching the web about meth production... why in the world would I research something that I have no interest in. Not too mention the fact that the last time I checked information on the web, tv or radio did not include scratch and sniff. One can describe an odor on paper, but that does not equate to actually knowing the smell.

    As to not being close to (you know, geographical proximity...or not up in each others business every day)..family or seeing them frequently...that is not a strange thing to say. Happens to be reality for a great many of us.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 5:02 p.m.

    What a strange thing to say!

    It so true. So go ahead and admit it.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 4:56 p.m.

    justcommonsense - "And, if you aren't close to your family in that you see them frequently, you wouldn't know either."

    What a strange thing to say!

    I don't need to be close to that family to know what meth production smells like. Anyone who doesn't know only needs to research it on the big wide wonderful world wide web.

    And there's no way someone else in that family didn't know what they were doing. PERIOD!!!

  • justcommonsense Nov 30, 4:55 p.m.

    @radium.... common sense is severly lacking in society today. There is so much more to the problem. But, the first line of action is always to have the state take the kids... regardless of whether or not there may be family to care for them.

    Interesting that so many here seem to know what meth smells like..hmmmm.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 4:50 p.m.

    frequently, you wouldn't know either.

    justcommonsense

    Good comment and right on point.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 4:47 p.m.

    You know, there are many other parents doing the same thing as this couple was doing. METH! So why have their neighbors, friends and family not reported them?

  • justcommonsense Nov 30, 4:46 p.m.

    @ Heuman Bean... I don't know what meth smells like. Never been around it, don't use it, don't work in a medical setting or in law enforcement or been around users of it. So, some would not have known. And, if you aren't close to your family in that you see them frequently, you wouldn't know either.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 4:44 p.m.

    Both parents need help in getting off the meth and any other illegal drug.

  • justcommonsense Nov 30, 4:44 p.m.

    Why would they (CPS) even consider letting relatives care for these children? It's better you know for the state to step in and take over. Put them in the system to be bounced around to perhaps even more suspect "care".

    Some here have commented negatively about the relatives. None of us knows a thing about the relatives of these two. As to why didn't family do something for the children before now.... the relatives may not have known what was going on. None of us knows every single detail of our relative's lives do we?

    I agree with Scuba...if there are good, dependable relatives willing to care for them, that is where they should be. With family...not strangers who may not care 2 cents for them other than the monthly stipend they get for "caring" for them.

    Sad all the way around for the children.

  • radium Nov 30, 4:37 p.m.

    So many heartless, clueless people leaving comments. I will bet my bottom dollar that every one of you considers yourselves a "Christian". You without sin cast the first stone. You have no idea how horrible it is to be addicted to drugs, especially alcohol. I grew up with addict parents and you have no clue what you are talking about. Go watch some more Faux news and fester in xenophobia.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 4:34 p.m.

    pray they are never alone in their parent's custody ever ever again.

    Heuman Bean

    But the childen have rights and that right may include seeing their parents one day.

  • radium Nov 30, 4:32 p.m.

    You will never ever stop messed up people from wanting to escape their miserable lives by doing drugs. Legalize it all, take the profit away from the criminals, and give it away to addicts as part of an addiction management program. This will remove these ticking time bombs from our neighborhoods. Portugal has had a system like this in place for YEARS: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html and none of the retoric the DEA likes to scare people with happened, actually, the complete opposite. The DEA's sole purpose is not the protection of citizens, it's the protection of the DEA so they all continue to have jobs. Drug addicts are severly mentally ill people. Warehousing them in prison to exploit them for slave labor to take away jobs from unemployed Americans is a bigger menace to society than legal drugs will ever be. Defund and close the DEA and save 51 billion dollars a year. I know I'm dreaming, logic doesn't work in America, just greed.

  • SportsLover75 Nov 30, 4:29 p.m.

    I dont think the relatives should have them. If they were close to these people and their children then they knew something was up and didnt do anything about it to protect/remove the children in the first place. I do not agree with seperating the children but finding them a home together.

  • uncwox Nov 30, 4:29 p.m.

    Interesting argument RE: legalization of marijuana and for cigarettes for that manner. If it is endangering children for them to be in the room with Meth. What about children who have parents smoking pot or even cigs? They are still having their bodies affected (one could argue in a harmful way) by a substance that is either illegal or for adults only wouldn't secondhand smoke be child neglect too? That's where we are heading I think and i'm okay with it.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 4:08 p.m.

    Their children should be taken away from them

    Have you given the thought that when the children becomes adults they will look for their bio parents?

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 3:55 p.m.

    And by the way, for those thinking the relatives might not have known, meth can be smelled a long distance away and lingers on the body of anyone within that stench for a long long time. Someone within the family HAD to know these children were being raised in that environment, so therefore no one in the family should have custody because they didn't step in to protect them BEFORE the law did.

  • devilblue Nov 30, 3:54 p.m.

    Wow-She is only 29? Looks way older. Thats what doing drugs will do to ya.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 30, 3:53 p.m.

    "Social Services plans to file a petition Tuesday for custody of the children, who are now staying with relatives."

    Why didn't those relatives do something to help those children before? IMHO, because of this CPS may be the best custodian for the children. I pray they can keep them together, especially for the holidays. I also pray they are never alone in their parent's custody ever ever again.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 3:50 p.m.

    there are relatives that will take in the children then that is where they should go and not into the lousy systems government provides.

    Depends on what kind of relatives they are. You just cannot put the children with anybody,including relatives.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 30, 3:49 p.m.

    So again, why are they crying. They never gave thought to their children, not until they were caught. May they get their justice. They put the children in danger with the meth as well as themselves. I don't feel sorry for them. But I do for the children. May the Social Services find them good loving homes. I am sure the parents will see some prison time. "IF YOU FEEL ITS WRONG, THEN ABSOLUTELY DON'T DO IT."

  • Save It Nov 30, 3:21 p.m.

    "Social Services plans to file a petition Tuesday for custody of the children, who are now staying with relatives".

    If the relatives want custody or will care for the children wouldn't it make more sense for the kids to be kept together than put into foster homes, possibly separated, by social services?

  • workinghuman33 Nov 30, 3:11 p.m.

    Their children should be taken away from them and they should never be able to see them again, in my opinion. I am for the decriminalization of drugs, except for this particular drug. Meth is not a victim-less crime. Those poor children have been exposed to toxic waste. The home is now useless, toxic and could make anyone that lives there very ill. Depending on how they disposed of the waste, prior to being caught, the ground water may also now be toxic. These children could have been blow to bits in an explosion. I don't know how anyone could subject your children to such risk. I despise this drug and feel users of it are worthless.

  • whatelseisnew Nov 30, 2:58 p.m.

    "Social Services plans to file a petition Tuesday for custody of the children, who are now staying with relatives."

    Why? If there are relatives that will take in the children then that is where they should go and not into the lousy systems government provides.

  • Scubagirl Nov 30, 2:56 p.m.

    meant GRANDPARENTS or whatever relatives are caring for them now.

  • Scubagirl Nov 30, 2:56 p.m.

    If relatives want to care for and keep the children-provided they aren't also breaking the law-wouldn't that be better for them than foster care?

  • tcndc2 Nov 30, 2:53 p.m.

    drugs are never an answer to a problem.

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