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  • bubbaOK Dec 3, 9:25 a.m.

    He broke the controversy commandment repeatedly and bashed gays because they had no defenders. He dropped out of WF like Bill Friday. Here in his home county he brought home a JH Nursing Home. He left behind an nepotistic dynasty. BUT somebody voted for him time after time. Because of his ability to get the job done, do it, so history won't repeat itself.

  • Cock a doodle doo Nov 30, 8:20 a.m.

    OK, everyone who thinks Helms was a bigot: let's name it the Jackson/Sharpton/Barber building. Same result. -storcheim

    You seem to be the only one making that ridiculous suggestion.

    Jesse Helms is dead and gone, let him stay dead and gone except for his family and friends who can go to the grave site to remember him.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 7:08 p.m.

    ""Freedom & Equality for ALL Americans!" workinghuman33

    And of course you think the Reverend William Barber is a great man, and not a racist? Barber is the biggest race baiter of this century. Much worse than Jesse Helms ever dreamed of."

    So now you are telling us what we think? I didn't realize we were talking about Barber, Sharpton, or Jackson. I didn't realize they were wanting to name buildings after them.

    Try changing the subject again, it will not change the facts.

  • Grand Union Nov 29, 7:05 p.m.

    "It sounds like some of you Helms haters think the majority of North Carolinians were / are racist homophobes. Oh, wait, the voters of North Carolina voted to not allow gay marriage too. But when was that? A long time ago? May of 2012? When our illustrious governor said we were like Mississippi? beachboater""

    LOL only 22% of the electorate voted to ban gay marriage....thats not a majority in any book....it was just a nasty little minority that chose a primary election to get their nasty little law passed.

  • Grand Union Nov 29, 6:59 p.m.

    "And of course you think the Reverend William Barber is a great man, and not a racist? Barber is the biggest race baiter of this century. Much worse than Jesse Helms ever dreamed of."

    who suggested naming a building after Barber? nobody, so why are you raising his name?

  • Grand Union Nov 29, 6:57 p.m.

    another clueless Republican......no way in heck should that old racists name be immortalised in a Federal Building. Its one thing keeping the remains of the old south like the Confederate memorial but quite another adding new ones.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 6:56 p.m.

    "OK, everyone who thinks Helms was a bigot: let's name it the Jackson/Sharpton/Barber building. Same result."

    There is no "thinks he was a bigot". Let me re-cap what you missed while you were napping.

    ''The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that has thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic and commerce and interfere with other men's rights.'' -- television interview, 1963

    "All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."

    I've been portrayed as a caveman by some. That's not true. I'm a conservative progressive, and that means I think all men are equal, be they slants, b**ners, or ni**ers. -- Jesse Helms, North Carolina Progressive, February 6, 19

    Does that sound like someone who is not a bigot? If this kind of speech is normal for you Storch, then I suggest you venture out into the world and see how things have changed while you were out.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 6:47 p.m.

    "I don't support putting anyone's name on a building, road, etc. built using our tax dollars.

    But I will say that Senator Helms was one of the finest examples of what a public servant should be that has ever held public office. He was NOT a racist and never tried to play one group of people against another as our current President has done.

    He was MORE frugal with our tax dollars than his own money, something that is almost non existant in our current politicions.

    He would NEVER compromise his moral compass or flip-flop just to get votes or favors. And whether you shared his values or not he did see you as the devil as so many do today.

    A highly principled, honorable man whose memory should be held in high regard. But then again, the world is now full of hypocriticle, unsavory people who would lie and turn a blind eye to decency just to make themselves feel better."

    Thanks for the good laugh. Not racist....LOL!!! Honorable man..BWAHAHA!! Keep the jokes coming.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 6:44 p.m.

    "He was a good Senator and did a good job of representing his constituents. He took on liberal Democrats and wasteful spending by the federal government. Being a conservative does not make one a bad person. We need more elected folks who do what is right as opposed to doing what is popular."

    You are right, being a conservative does not make someone a bad person. I would probably be right next to you defending his honor had it not been for the hate that he so openly spread.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 6:39 p.m.

    "It sounds like some of you Helms haters think the majority of North Carolinians were / are racist homophobes. Oh, wait, the voters of North Carolina voted to not allow gay marriage too. But when was that? A long time ago? May of 2012? When our illustrious governor said we were like Mississippi?"

    The sad thing is, this pleases you. You are proud of that. Gay marriage wasn't legal here in the first place, you just had to have a law in the state constitution that said the same thing.

  • bakerbillwade Nov 29, 6:16 p.m.

    Renee, why don't you spend your time on compromising with a balance approach so the american people will stop suffering and our economy will improve, which means more jobs. Seems like that is more important and should dominate your time! Do what the people who elected you want and need.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 6:11 p.m.

    "Some here say that he did what was best for white people etc. Mr Helms was very fiscally conservative. Minorities and everyone else will soon see that he tried to save for all of us. Your anger should be directed at the democrats who promised you the moon and stars, and will soon be proven to be the liars who betrayed you. Jesse was your friend."

    I'm not angry, I'm just disgusted. Saying he "he tried to save for all of us." is a half truth. Saving anything for the gays or blacks was merely a side effect and he would have made sure they were left out of it if he could have.

  • beaulahjackson4 Nov 29, 5:36 p.m.

    Mr Helms was a good Christian and a generous man. Most people do not know that he and Dottie adopted and raised an orphan son who has Cerebral Palsey.
    suzakelly"

    People call themselves "good Christian" all the time. Jesus was about love, I do believe that the Christian religion is based on him. A "good Christian" is his brothers keeper, loves thy neighbor as thyself, and doesn't judge his fellow man...leaves that up to his creator. Mr. Helms attended Hayes-Barton Baptist Church when he was in town, going to church does not make you a good Christian, doing your best to act as Christ did IS being a good Christian. I believe Jesus healed the sick, for free I might add and I would submit to you that Jesus would be with the homeless, the poor, the Aids victim, and all the disfranchised of society...something that Mr. Helms was not in line with. Unless the Helms' adopted a black, gay child with Cerebral Palsy then I am not impressed. He was a devout racist which isn't a devout Christian

  • beachboater Nov 29, 5:33 p.m.

    "Freedom & Equality for ALL Americans!" workinghuman33

    And of course you think the Reverend William Barber is a great man, and not a racist? Barber is the biggest race baiter of this century. Much worse than Jesse Helms ever dreamed of.

  • Relic Nov 29, 5:26 p.m.

    he was an ignorant racist and a homophobe

    Jessie Helms was a lot of things, but he was not ignorant. He was the chairman of the Capital Broadcasting Company and a very successful businessman. Jessie Helms was not a racist. In his commentaries on WRAL in the 60's he used terms which were in use then which today would make Jimmy Carter seem racist. Homophobe? No as I know for a fact that he dealt with several conservatives who were gay and could have cared less. Was he misinformed on the AIDS/HIV epidemic? Yes, he was and he admitted so and apologized for it before his death as he realized that it was more than just an isolated disease caused by homosexual sex which few men from the south from that era would have ever said they condoned. And Mr. Helms was not a "lifelong politico". Helms was in the broadcasting business for many years before running for Senate.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 5:22 p.m.

    "and they think it makes them look better than us. It just makes those who "hate" the ones who disagree with certain lifestyle the ones who are intolerant-and bullies."

    No what makes me look better than you is because I am tolerant, heck even sympathetic to their plight. Do you not consider blocking the 1964 civil rights act hateful? To deny rights to blacks and women is nowhere near tolerance or right.

    I don't hate you, I am saddened that my fellow man can be so callous and try to bring their fellow man down, make them second class citizens because some passage in your book says it's an abomination. The bullies are the ones fighting to take rights away from blacks and gays. The bullies are the ones who want others to live by their standards and beliefs.

    Perhaps you should take a step back, put yourself in their shoes and look at yourself. These people will fight with you for your causes and yet you choose to put them down.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 5:22 p.m.

    "The "left" (liberals, if you will) think because they use the word "hate" that makes those of us who feel the way I do less than "tolerant" of others;"

    Well, you are less tolerant of others. You should feel ashamed for your misguided opinions. I call it like I see it. You don't have to agree with or even like the LBGT community. As a Chritian I was taught to love my neighbor, to hate the sin not the sinner. A lot of Christians seem to have cherry picked verses from the Bible to suit their own needs and ignore the ones that are less desireable. You know the ones I refer to. Use the "abomination" verse, but ignore the ones about multiple wives, or selling your daughter for slavery. It's easy to hide your fear/dislike whatever you want to call it behind a book and a religion. Again, you may be a great person but your choice to fight for inequality and holding others to YOUR religion is wrong.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Nov 29, 5:18 p.m.

    The Jesse Helms I knew was a man with old fashioned views. He was a product of the old south and appeared to support segregation for far too long. Still, in a one on one basis, he treated everyone with respect. I don't mind a building being named for him but would prefer the Century Postal Station remain that.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 5:14 p.m.

    "gravyPig: "hatred for minorities and the LBGT community" Just because someone disagrees with certain groups does not mean they hate them."

    Blocking AIDS research beacuse it is a "gay disease". So it's ok to block health research because you don't agree with their lifestyle? Helms was fine with AIDS research for Africa since it was spread there mainly by heterosexuals.

    "I certainly do not hate any so-called minorities; as I believe we all are the same with God-His children-and NONE are a "minority". If some-and I mean some of any and all groups-act and live outside His will, then yes, I disagree with that; but I do not hate."

    So let's not use the PC word "minority". So how is being black a lifestyle? It's funny how you downplay "minorities". Just because you don't belive in them doesn't mean they don't exist.

    You may be a great person, but when you play the "lifestyle" card you align yourself with people the likes of Fred Phelps. Kinda harsh, but true.

  • Relic Nov 29, 4:57 p.m.

    And a raging racist.

    Not true. I knew many of the people on Helms' staff that were minorities including his long-time head of staff. Helms was indeed an obstructionist at times but at least he was honest about his views. He was conservative and he did not believe many of the entitlement programs but his views were based on money and politics. He was an old southern curmudgeon but he did look out for the people in NC while in DC, even after he became the "whipping boy" of liberals who saw as much evil in him as they did in George W. Bush.

  • suzakelly Nov 29, 4:53 p.m.

    Mr Helms was a good Christian and a generous man. Most people do not know that he and Dottie adopted and raised an orphan son who has Cerebral Palsey.

  • dwntwnboy Nov 29, 4:48 p.m.

    Thanks Gravey- couldnt have explained it better myself!!

  • storchheim Nov 29, 4:47 p.m.

    OK, everyone who thinks Helms was a bigot: let's name it the Jackson/Sharpton/Barber building. Same result.

  • lovelarvae Nov 29, 4:39 p.m.

    "He was NOT a racist and never tried to play one group of people against another"

    You're joking, right?

  • NC Reader Nov 29, 4:36 p.m.

    Political analysts know why Jesse Helms was elected time and again. He was a master at constituent services. Even some people who didn't like him at all voted for him because they knew that when they had a problem with government bureaucracy, he would get it fixed.

    However, he would never be elected now. Even the most conservative politicians are loathe to spew the venom that he expressed towards gay people and black people. They know that even great constituent services will not compensate for such speech.

  • geosol Nov 29, 4:29 p.m.

    Some right wingers try to defend Helms by saying that "you always knew where he stood, he wasn't afraid to stand up for what he stood for". Problem is, he was an ignorant racist and a homophobe. These are not things to be proud of. Fear, hate, and ignorance are not "values" that any decent human being should 'stand up for'.

  • SmokeWagon Nov 29, 4:27 p.m.

    A building...?? Heck lets rename a major downtown street in Raleigh Dr. Rev. Jessie Helms Blvd....!!!!!

  • Nope Nov 29, 4:26 p.m.

    "He would NEVER compromise his moral compass"

    I agree, too bad his compass was broken.

  • workinghuman33 Nov 29, 4:22 p.m.

    People often do not know what is best for them. "suzakelly"

    You are right, the people of Germany certainly didn't know what was best for them when they aligned themselves with Hitler...a fellow racist.

  • SmokeWagon Nov 29, 4:15 p.m.

    ..."Being a conservative does not make one a bad person. -gnewsome1..."

    Oh yes it does...especially to all the "enlightened" ones that know what is the "best" way for you to exercise YOUR rights and how best to spend YOUR money for you....!!!!!

  • free2bme Nov 29, 4:12 p.m.

    I think there are more important things Ellmers can devote her time to. As far as I know Jesse Helms never did anything monumental for this state. He did the job he was supposed to do for those who elected him. Please keep in mind that many North Carolinians did not care for Mr. Helms nor his views and definitely don't want to see a post Civil War building with his name on it. The only thing I remember him for is for standing up for what He believed to be true- right or wrong.

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 4:04 p.m.

    "dwntwnboy, you apparently consider it a negative that the late Senator Helms' thoughts come from the mid 1800s, as you put it.

    Allow me to remind you that the thoughts in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution come from the 1770s and 1780s and the thoughts in the Bible come from around two thousand years before that. I suggest that if your thoughts as exemplified by your comment are typical of those of 2012 then I'd rather stick to the old thoughts any day."

    You didn't understand his statement or you are feigning ignorance. He was referring to Mr. Helms opinions on Gays, Blacks, and Women. Or rather his dislike as was the "norm" back in the 1800s. Has nothing to do with the Bible, the Constitution, or the Declaration of Independence. He was also not refering to the 1700s or 2000 years ago. Nice try though.

  • pappybigtuna1 Nov 29, 4:00 p.m.

    why do we have to name anything after someone? this is such a farce. Most of the voters never heard of him, Helms. Cause we don't teach history in school anymore.

    Jessie was OK, but he sold out to the establishment and went against the WE the People

  • suzakelly Nov 29, 3:56 p.m.

    workinghuman33 - People often do not know what is best for them. Mr Helms fought hard against wasteful spending and higher taxes. He prevented higher gas taxes which are a very regressive tax (costs the poor more). He fought very hard for sound money, which keeps inflation and your cost of living lower. If you were to talk to any minority that knew him personally they would tell you that he was not a racist. His policies were good for all of NC.

  • workinghuman33 Nov 29, 3:54 p.m.

    Being a conservative does not make one a bad person. -gnewsome1"

    No it certainly does not...however being a racist homophobe does....in my opinion.

  • workinghuman33 Nov 29, 3:42 p.m.

    It sounds like some of you Helms haters think the majority of North Carolinians were / are racist homophobes. Oh, wait, the voters of North Carolina voted to not allow gay marriage too. But when was that? A long time ago? May of 2012? When our illustrious governor said we were like Mississippi?
    beachboater""

    I am a native of Raleigh. Helms definitely did give the same speech to different groups...he stuck to his racism through and through...why? Because he was racist. He believed what he said and what he said a lot of the time was racist. So are you so proud that North Carolinian's voted not to allow gay marriage? I'm not proud I find it vile. I find racism still existing in this day and age vile as well. I believe that decision set us back decades as far as what other states see us as....and a lot of states see us as racist homophobes. Not surprising with opinions such are yours and many others here today. Freedom & Equality for ALL Americans!

  • GravyPig Nov 29, 3:39 p.m.

    "Great idea Ms. Ellmers! I'm glad to see him getting some remembrance. And no he was not a racist, it's you who is the racist every time someone stands up for what they believe in they are labeled a racist. Funny how those other fingers point back at you isn't it?"

    Oh, so you think it's ok to segregate and deny rights to blacks, women, and other minorities? If you think that Helms wasn't a racist or a biggot then you are living in a fantasy world. Deny it as much as you want, it'll never erase the hateful and nasty remarks he made over the years towards minorities and gays.

    "every time someone stands up for what they believe in they are labeled a racist."

    No, when someone stands up for inequality and segregation they are labeled a racist. It's a real shame you can't see this.

  • beachboater Nov 29, 3:36 p.m.

    "Senator Helms never voted for 16 trillion in debt, or favored to nationalize Americans private 401(k)s."

    "Pray tell, and who does?" Sumo Vita

    I wouldn't swear to it, but I do believe it was on Nancy Pelosi's to-do-list. And she talked about it on T.V. Check You Tube. Along with her speech where she said,"We've got to go ahead and pass this healthcare bill so we can see what is in it." Geez.....

  • jbyrd Nov 29, 3:34 p.m.

    I don't support putting anyone's name on a building, road, etc. built using our tax dollars.

    But I will say that Senator Helms was one of the finest examples of what a public servant should be that has ever held public office.
    He was NOT a racist and never tried to play one group of people against another as our current President has done.

    He was MORE frugal with our tax dollars than his own money, something that is almost non existant in our current politicions.

    He would NEVER compromise his moral compass or flip-flop just to get votes or favors. And whether you shared his values or not he did see you as the devil as so many do today.

    A highly principled, honorable man whose memory should be held in high regard. But then again, the world is now full of hypocriticle, unsavory people who would lie and turn a blind eye to decency just to make themselves feel better.

  • Cock a doodle doo Nov 29, 3:30 p.m.

    I suggest renaming the wall separating the 2 sides at Clyde Cooper's BBQ the Jesse Helms memorial wall where they still keep the sign up that points "whites to the left and negroes to the right side."

  • gnewsome1 Nov 29, 3:27 p.m.

    He was a good Senator and did a good job of representing his constituents. He took on liberal Democrats and wasteful spending by the federal government. Being a conservative does not make one a bad person. We need more elected folks who do what is right as opposed to doing what is popular.

  • workinghuman33 Nov 29, 3:25 p.m.

    Jesse was your friend.
    suzakelly"

    Perhaps he was YOUR friend. Anyone that felt the way he did, and he was very verbal about it, about other races and gay people has not one single redeeming quality in my opinion. The race for U.S. senator against James B. Hunt in 1984 was one of the most expensive campaigns, as well as one of the ugliest in history. Then in 1990 when he ran against Harvey Gantt his racist "white hands" commercial made me want to puke. Both campaigns rate in the top 10 nastiest campaigns in history. Helms was pure evil in my opinion and would sling so much mud and say the ugliest of things to get re-elected. He was a horrid man. I feel he is a scar of the face of this beautiful state and one of the main reasons a lot of other states think we're all just bunch of racist hillbillies. Please peddle your white lilies elsewhere cuz this white girl aint buyin em.

  • beachboater Nov 29, 3:15 p.m.

    How many politicians do you know of that would give the same campaign speech to different groups? Helms is the only one I know of. How many democrats voted for Helms when he defeated Jim Hunt for his senate seat? Quite a few. How many politicians do you know of that told you what he thought rather than what he thought you wanted to hear? I can only think of one.

    It sounds like some of you Helms haters think the majority of North Carolinians were / are racist homophobes. Oh, wait, the voters of North Carolina voted to not allow gay marriage too. But when was that? A long time ago? May of 2012? When our illustrious governor said we were like Mississippi?

  • Sumo Vita Nov 29, 3:09 p.m.

    "Senator Helms never voted for 16 trillion in debt, or favored to nationalize Americans private 401(k)s."

    Pray tell, and who does?

  • ILoveDowntownRaleigh Nov 29, 3:06 p.m.

    Just as I expected (NOT!) Renee is focused like a laser beam on jobs, jobs, jobs. That is what all conservative posters on this site were promising me if I would vote for her in 2010. That's why our voting choices are so important. When someone like Renee gets into office and utterly fails, they don't just resign in humiliation, it can take years to get them out.

    In 32 days, it will be 2013, and NC still has one of the 5 highest unemployment rates in the 50 states. And we've just gotten the same promise from McCrory.

  • Sumo Vita Nov 29, 3:06 p.m.

    "Your anger should be directed at the democrats who promised you the moon and stars"

    Dead wrong. YOU people live in a fantasy world where your handlers tell you that "democrats win because they promise people things". Well, go right on believing them. And if you wish to sound naive, feel free to parrot that narrative to us too. Meanwhile, we'll organize, we'll GOTV, we'll mobilize against your men behind the curtains - and when we free our beloved country from their ruthless clutches, we'll gladly accept your thanks.

  • karbattle1 Nov 29, 3:00 p.m.

    Fine by me. Senator Helms never voted for 16 trillion in debt, or favored to nationalize Americans private 401(k)s.

  • suzakelly Nov 29, 2:51 p.m.

    Some here say that he did what was best for white people etc. Mr Helms was very fiscally conservative. Minorities and everyone else will soon see that he tried to save for all of us. Your anger should be directed at the democrats who promised you the moon and stars, and will soon be proven to be the liars who betrayed you. Jesse was your friend.

  • dabink Nov 29, 2:40 p.m.

    So why are buildings, bridges, and roads named after politicians anyway? They had a job, so what. Why are they so special just because they occasionally did what they were elected to do? And when most are elected by only half of the voters that says only half will even remotely be happy about the guys names being on things the taxpayers paid for.

  • balog Nov 29, 2:30 p.m.

    Yes because this is more important then the budget or growing the economy or helping grow jobs. Yet again, another bait and switch by the teapublicans.

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