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  • kermit60 Nov 26, 2012

    He said he’s worked at the store for six years and makes $10.70 an hour. And in those six years what has he done to improve himself so he can get a higher paying job? He is being paid what he was promised.

  • Soleil Nov 23, 2012

    "Soleil - "WalMart couldn't have planned and paid for a better ad campaign than what the unions provided for free."

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    Heuman Bean November 23, 2012 5:36 p.m

    "ROFLOL

    Walmart DID plan it; that's why Walmart filed for an injunction to stop the union's protest just the week before Black Friday, an injunction that the judge denied, but few had heard about the union's planned protest until Walmart filed for the injunction.

    HA HA HA

    You were duped, and so were many more - just like Walmart planned you'd be.

    Now do you really think you can trust them?"

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    That's simply not true. No one was duped except maybe you duped yourself by not paying attention. The intent for the union and a few employees to disrupt WalMart's sales for Thanksgiving Day was all over the news two or three days before WalMart filed for the injunction.

  • happilynow Nov 23, 2012

    Clickhere: It is a dark day when someone labels children as an "inconsideration". Shame.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    hjgpoole - "Walmart is one of the few that does offer partime Associates health care after they have worked there a bit longer than a fulltime Associate."

    One has to work an average of 24 hours per week to qualify. Few part-time employees do at Walmart.

    "Hourly Associates both part time and fulltime have a very good chance at bonuses quarterly."

    Yearly, after the inventory is done, not quarterly.

    "Associates parttime and fulltime get holiday pay if they work their schedule and sometimes they are off the holiday and sometimes they work ..."

    You're dreaming.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    rushbot - "...Keeping their underprivileged children robbing you or me? or selling drugs to yours or my children? it wont work, its a cycle and it needs to end."

    Did you not?

    You also said, "I concur."

  • rushbot Nov 23, 2012

    Heuman Bean - rushbot - "How can they be parents and teach their children right from wrong? Keeping their underprivileged children robbing you or me? or selling drugs to yours or my children? it wont work, its a cycle and it needs to end." . . I concur."

    So you think poor people are crooked people or are bad parents?

    No wonder this world bites big ones.

    Some of the finest parents and most honest people I've ever known have been poor dirt farmers.

    Some of the worst parents I've ever met have been rich folks whose careers or personal concerns were more important to them than their children, so they let them be raised by others."

    I don't believe I said that.

  • hjgpoole Nov 23, 2012

    Some of you really need to find a different article to bounce comments on. Walmart is one of the few that does offer partime Associates health care after they have worked there a bit longer than a fulltime Associate. Hourly Associates both part time and fulltime have a very good chance at bonuses quarterly. Associates parttime and fulltime get holiday pay if they work their schedule and sometimes they are off the holiday and sometimes they work ... people shop, Walmart is retail so it is a supply and demand type setup as with ALL sucessful companies. It is people that make comments, protest, create scenes and other issues that do not work for Walmart that have caused the Associates more issues than any other factor. Granted some Associates are disgruntled ... show me a work place that this never happens.

  • Bartmeister Nov 23, 2012

    Good job protesters. I am a bit disappointed at the small turnout but it is a start. I suggest the Wal-Mart parking lots be occupied by the employees.
    piene2

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    It is................................ after hours with a case of beer!!! Occupy. seems I heard that last year. Right right, Occupy wall street. Yep, that went well...........Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

  • storchheim Nov 23, 2012

    "the allure of a trip to Walmart..."

    Priceless

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    "The real problem is that Wal-Mart is losing shoppers, and store traffic is down. People don't want to buy the bundled four-pack of air fresheners, for example, even though they are a better deal per unit. Instead, they just want to buy a single can for even less money.

    Shoppers have turned to dollar stores and grocery stores for many of those single-unit household items, including detergent and tissues."

    http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=1a9c5989-0de1-4ac3-ba50-9c814c981120

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    rushbot - "How can they be parents and teach their children right from wrong? Keeping their underprivileged children robbing you or me? or selling drugs to yours or my children? it wont work, its a cycle and it needs to end." . . I concur."

    So you think poor people are crooked people or are bad parents?

    No wonder this world bites big ones.

    Some of the finest parents and most honest people I've ever known have been poor dirt farmers.

    Some of the worst parents I've ever met have been rich folks whose careers or personal concerns were more important to them than their children, so they let them be raised by others.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    "Meanwhile, other retailers in the U.S., including dollar stores and Target (TGT), are eating away at Wal-Mart's market share here. Wal-Mart executives said American shoppers are running out of money faster than before."

    http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/post.aspx?post=1a9c5989-0de1-4ac3-ba50-9c814c981120

  • TruthTemple Nov 23, 2012

    OK they are striking so they can be home with the family and not at walmart, so how stupid is this---you are not at home but standing in front of walmart not getting paid, think about it

  • rushbot Nov 23, 2012

    So minimum wage is a punishment? A way to say "HAHA you didint make it past high school", so now you and you CHILDREN have to suffer.

    I disagree. Everyone deserves a chance to better themselves and and and their children, and shouldn't need to work three jobs to do it.
    "This Vet 4 Medical Marijuana-
    How can they be parents and teach their children right from wrong? Keeping their underprivileged children robbing you or me? or selling drugs to yours or my children? it wont work, its a cycle and it needs to end."
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    I concur.

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    'Westernwake - "You better check the Walmart financials. Your statements are not supported in the numbers."'

    'Don't have to check Walmart's financials. It can be clearly seen in the financials of the smaller stores I mentioned.' - Heuman Bean

    For the past 7 years, Walmart revenue has grown a minimum of 3.5% per quarter each year over comparable quarters. This is hardly the definition of losing out to competitors. From the retail perspective this is called dominating the market in growth.

    Yes, the business of Dollar General and similar stores have improved during the recession. But their improved business did not come at the expense of Walmart. Walmart business greatly improved during recession as well as shoppers focused on low prices.

  • clickhere Nov 23, 2012

    Also, why would some think "high school / college / semi-retired / part-timers" are worth less than any other employee??? Heuman Being

    I don't think they are worth less as a human being, I think the job they are doing is worth less than a car mechanic / business owner / accountant / skilled laborer / traffic cop / jiffy lube tech / waitress - whatever. If you want to get paid more, you do a more skilled job. You shouldn't get paid the same for doing lower level work like stocking shelves or standing around. Many walmart / target people are helpful and get paid a fair wage for what they do, but it's typically not skilled labor.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    westernwake1 - "The spectacle of strikers even more uneducated than themselves probably adds to the allure of a Walmart shopping trip."

    What makes you say the strikers are uneducated? IF...some are union-backed, they might be well-educated.

    Hard to tell just by the way people dress.

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "I stand corrected, but that's still a far cry from the $10 per hour some here are saying they get." - Heuman Bean

    The average Walmart retail non-managerial full-time hourly wage is $12.57; the average Walmart part-time hourly wage is $10.02 according to company statements and financial filings.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-22/business/ct-biz-1122-walmart-workers-20121122_1_wal-mart-workers-wal-mart-stores-kory-lundberg

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    Westernwake - "You better check the Walmart financials. Your statements are not supported in the numbers."

    Don't have to check Walmart's financials. It can be clearly seen in the financials of the smaller stores I mentioned.

    Major food chains are also losing out to them.

  • One Term Governor Nov 23, 2012

    clickhere--

    So minimum wage is a punishment? A way to say "HAHA you didint make it past high school", so now you and you CHILDREN have to suffer.

    I disagree. Everyone deserves a chance to better themselves and and and their children, and shouldn't need to work three jobs to do it.

    How can they be parents and teach their children right from wrong? Keeping their underprivileged children robbing you or me? or selling drugs to yours or my children? it wont work, its a cycle and it needs to end.

    I say raise wages at companies that can afford it first, then work our way down to the small businesses.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    clickhere - "Minimum wage is not for those trying to raise a family, it's for high school / college / semi-retired / part-timers that want some extra cash."

    So what do we do with those who are doing so? Line them all up and shoot them?

    Also, why would some think "high school / college / semi-retired / part-timers" are worth less than any other employee???

    Since retiring after 47 years of working, I've said I'd love to see laws pass that require our legislators to live on what a retired person gets from social security just one month out of every single year. Then they'd come to understand what they're legislating and then maybe they'd make smarter decisions regarding COLA raises, etc.

    Now I'd like to take it one step further. Pass laws that also require them to live on minimum wage for a month for the average number of hours they work over a year's time. Then they'll be able to make informed decisions on that too.

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "Customers have been leaving them in droves, to shop at Dollar General, Family Dollar, Dollar Tree, etc" - Heuman Bean

    You better check the Walmart financials. Your statements are not supported in the numbers.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    WesternWake - "WRONG. The lowest pay at Walmart for a PPG1 (Position Pay Grade 1) - Cart Pusher is $8.00 per hour (above minimum wage) to start. Cashiers are PPG3 with a minimum of $8.40 per hour to start."

    I stand corrected, but that's still a far cry from the $10 per hour some here are saying they get.

  • clickhere Nov 23, 2012

    "Customers have been leaving them in droves, to shop at Dollar General, Family Dollar, Dollar Tree, etc.

    Heuman Bean"

    hmmmm - I'd have to do a trend analysis, but from a stock price point of view - Walmart has gone from $60 to $75 per share thes yr. Where are you getting the stats on droves leaving? Stock prices seldom increase if business is heading south.

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "Some Walmart shoppers shop in their pajamas. Do you think they give a flip about other people, regardless the reasons?" - Heuman Bean

    The spectacle of strikers even more uneducated than themselves probably adds to the allure of a Walmart shopping trip.

  • rushbot Nov 23, 2012

    "This Vet 4 Medical Marijuana- if minimum wage is SOO GREAT, then why don't out lazy, do nothing, thieving congressmen and senators not get paid that wage? just think about the ALL consequences that would occur from this. It would pose a grave security risk for our entire nation.

    So how could a company not expect a security risk by paying people such a low wage"

    I believe I read that the mayor of Newark is going to live on food stamps for a week. A Faux News reporter said he was doing it to diet....

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "Respectfully, it's already been said that Walmart employees are hired at minimum wage. After 90 days, they are reviewed, and they MAY get a raise of up to 25 cents per hour, or they may get put on probation for another 90 days.

    Then they are reviewed once yearly, and MAY get a raise up to another 25 cents per hour..." - Heuman Bean

    WRONG. The lowest pay at Walmart for a PPG1 (Position Pay Grade 1) - Cart Pusher is $8.00 per hour (above minimum wage) to start. Cashiers are PPG3 with a minimum of $8.40 per hour to start.

    Complete payscale and pay policy information can be found here for FY 2013:

    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Walmart_0.pdf

  • clickhere Nov 23, 2012

    This Vet 4 Medical Marijuana - Alright, interesting points, but I think you're way off base. If someone is trying to raise a family by working at walmart / mcdonalds / bo jangles / other retail, they need some form of reality check. You can't do that. Minimum wage is not for those trying to raise a family, it's for high school / college / semi-retired / part-timers that want some extra cash. No reason to raise minimum wages for everyone, you'd put half the small businesses out of business. Walmart and the other retailers perform a service to these folks that need a minimum amount of cash to supplement whatever they receive from other sources. If they are trying to raise a family of 4 on $10.25/hr as in the artivle (or $7.25 minimum wage), basic economics would tell you you are not going to make it. Do something else.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    WesternWake - "Similarly their sales and number of customers would not be expanding year-over-year much faster than the population growth rate."

    It isn't.

    Customers have been leaving them in droves, to shop at Dollar General, Family Dollar, Dollar Tree, etc.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    This Vet 4 Medical Marijuana - "So how could a company not expect a security risk by paying people such a low wage?"

    ;o)

    Considering that, it's admirable that a vast number of Walmart employees are honest hard-working people deserving of respect and fair treatment, yet they don't get it - even for being honest because honesty is expected by the company that doesn't give their employees respect and fair treatment in return.

    And that's the crux!!!

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    WesternWake - "If the protest was so powerful then Walmart shoppers would have stayed away from the stores to support the strikers, and Walmart would have had reduced sales compared to last year."

    Some Walmart shoppers shop in their pajamas. Do you think they give a flip about other people, regardless the reasons?

    No, the unions will never get support from the shoppers.

    They don't expect to.

    They expect to get support from news sources.

  • One Term Governor Nov 23, 2012

    if minimum wage is SOO GREAT, then why don't out lazy, do nothing, thieving congressmen and senators not get paid that wage? just think about the ALL consequences that would occur from this. It would pose a grave security risk for our entire nation.

    So how could a company not expect a security risk by paying people such a low wage?

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "Western Wake - "It was their best black Friday ever.""

    'Think of it this way, as the population rises in this country every year, so will the number of customers shopping on Black Friday.

    Using that logic, Walmart's sales each year will always be "...their best Black Friday ever" unless they seriously tick off a lot of people.

    It's like 24% more cavities because there were 24% more teeth examined in the study.

    Get it?' - Heuman Bean

    If the protest was so powerful then Walmart shoppers would have stayed away from the stores to support the strikers, and Walmart would have had reduced sales compared to last year.

    Similarly their sales and number of customers would not be expanding year-over-year much faster than the population growth rate.

    Basic math, eh. Get it?

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    affirmativediversity - "Do you labor under the delusion that Walmart is the only retail company that hires temps or part time personnel in order to keep their staffing costs down?"

    I've clarified that point over and over here today too.

    They're all pretty much the same nowadays, but Walmart pretty much wrote the book on how to take advantage of employees, towns, and other nearby businesses after Sam died.

  • clickhere Nov 23, 2012

    "And by the way, the 24 hours is the cut off for when you're considered a full time employee versus a part-time one. They hire enough people to keep everyone below the 24 hours so they don't have to provide benefits, holiday pay or vacation pay.
    Heuman Bean"

    wow, Bo Jangles, McDonalds, all claim 30 hrs is the cutoff - and from what my niece has said, the benefits cutoff is even higher #hrs. I don't think you have a case against walmart that isn't prevalent in the whole retail / restaurant business - like I said before, if folks want to advance, there are other ways to get ahead. And beyond that, as others have said, we need these jobs, sorry it's an inconvenience to those trying to work.

  • One Term Governor Nov 23, 2012

    "People just need to be happy that they actually do have a job cause there are tons out there that can not get a job at all."
    ProudOfMySoldie

    This is how the "job creators" want us to think. this is a recession mind set. Job creation works both ways, someone creates and sells a product, and someone needs to buy it. that simple, with your mindset we would all be slaves to minimum wage.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    cubed - "Heuman Bean – you are so right on so many count. But you do know you are talking to a wall right? :-)"

    ROFLOL LOL LOL

    Some say, "The walls have ears."

    GUFFAW

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    ProudOfMySoldier -

    Respectfully, it's already been said that Walmart employees are hired at minimum wage. After 90 days, they are reviewed, and they MAY get a raise of up to 25 cents per hour, or they may get put on probation for another 90 days.

    Then they are reviewed once yearly, and MAY get a raise up to another 25 cents per hour.

    So for someone at Walmart to be getting $10 per hour, they have to have worked there for several years, or they have to have gotten a promotion to a department manager or assistant department manager.

    No one at Walmart starts out employment there at $10 an hour.

  • affirmativediversity Nov 23, 2012

    affirmativediversity November 23, 2012 6:06 p.m........Only those who are permanate employees. Wally World wrote the book on hiring temp. and paying min. wages with no benefits. per Rebelyell55

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    Do you labor under the delusion that Walmart is the only retail company that hires temps or part time personnel in order to keep their staffing costs down?

  • cubed32696 Nov 23, 2012

    Everyone needs to watch “The Men Who Built America.” It was on the History Channel. This is what America is going BACK to – where a few wealthy (Koch and others) “own” the country. This is a great lesson to learn what we as a country do NOT want to become again. Unions are what made the middle class.

    Y’all need to get off the Hostess workers backs too. You go from making $54,000/yr to $34,000/yr and finally down to less than $25,000/yr. Asked to make concession after concession, while the top makes over $2mil/yr. Go for it. From what I’ve read, these workers are relieved that their jobs are no longer being held over their heads. This is what private equity companies do, run many businesses into the ground; making a huge profits for themselves and (WRAL won’t let me put the word I want to use here, but you know what I mean) the workers.

    Heuman Bean – you are so right on so many count. But you do know you are talking to a wall right? :-)

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    Lawha - "Have you heard about the store security employees and Wal-Marts loss prevention program? They place the majority of the security cameras in the backroom inventory area and fixed on the checkouts. That's where the majority of theft occurs, by the Wal-Mart employees."

    I know where the cameras are, usually in electronics, at the registers and at the exit doors. There are also plain-clothed store detectives throughout the store. They look just like a regular shopper and may even be dressed in ripped stained or dirty clothing, just to blend in.

    As for being in the backroom warehouse area, since an alarm sounds whenever an outside door to that area is opened, how would an employee EASILY get merchandise out of the warehouse to their vehicle?

    Sure, it can be done - but not EASILY!!!

  • westernwake1 Nov 23, 2012

    "Have you heard about the store security employees and Wal-Marts loss prevention program? They place the majority of the security cameras in the backroom inventory area and fixed on the checkouts. That's where the majority of theft occurs, by the Wal-Mart employees" - lawha63

    Same in every large retail business.

  • One Term Governor Nov 23, 2012

    "Have you heard about the store security employees and Wal-Marts loss prevention program? They place the majority of the security cameras in the backroom inventory area and fixed on the checkouts. That's where the majority of theft occurs, by the Wal-Mart employees."
    lawha63

    this is why they need to pay competitive wages. If their employees were compensated properly they wouldn't feel the need to steal. They could purchase the items instead. what a novel idea.

  • affirmativediversity Nov 23, 2012

    affirmativediversity - "Actually, I believe Walmart does offer all their employees stock options...so technically they can or do get a share in the "big payoff"

    Few Walmart employees get paid enough to be able to afford to take advantage of that, mostly only managers and above.
    per Heuman Bean

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    That's an assumption on your part and not necessarily correct or fair. I know several people who work at Walmart and they definitely set aside a few dollars every pay check for that stock option (there is no "minimum")...it doesn't have to be much BUT IT SURE ADDS UP AND PAYS OFF.

    For those that choose not to the decision is theirs. (Just a point of interest do those employees "too poor to participate" smoke or drink or go to fast food restaurants fairly regularly...how about buy soda or snacks? My guess is a good percentage of them do and if they really wanted to they could find $10 or $20 a paycheck to put toward that stock option.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    RebelYell - "...those of you feeling an issue with retail workers working during the retail season..."

    And by the way, I do most of my shopping online, so I'm usually close to done long before Black Friday.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    Western Wake - "It was their best black Friday ever."

    Think of it this way, as the population rises in this country every year, so will the number of customers shopping on Black Friday.

    Using that logic, Walmart's sales each year will always be "...their best Black Friday ever" unless they seriously tick off a lot of people.

    It's like 24% more cavities because there were 24% more teeth examined in the study.

    Get it?

  • ProudOfMySoldier Nov 23, 2012

    Grand Union, well hate to say it again but UMMM 10 bucks is a lot more then many other retail jobs out there right now.. How about those working at Old Navy, Macys and those places? Last I checked there those mostly do only get paid MINIMUM WAGE and not 10 bucks. Also last I checked minimum wage is not 10 bucks especially in NC where it is 7.25. Also I have friends that are managers at Walmart and also friends that are employees at Walmart and many of those employees were asked if they wanted to work on Black Friday/Thanksgiving.
    People just need to be happy that they actually do have a job cause there are tons out there that can not get a job at all. Right now many need to count their blessing

  • clickhere Nov 23, 2012

    rebelyell55 -Ha! good point . . not sure exactly how you meant your comment, but I'll take it as one of the more brilliant comments made so far, unless it isn't . . . have a good holiday

  • One Term Governor Nov 23, 2012

    " if so, you better enD the reign of Democrat terror beginning with 2014!" yankee1

    One, no we're not tired. Two, forcing the GOPs religious beliefs, ie (no abortions except for whatever they deem "right") is tyranny.

    In these Americas, to force YOUR interpretation of a religion on someone else is not only abhorrent, against the constitution (the first amendment to be specific).

    lets play a game, its called educate yourself. You can do first.

  • Dynol Yn Cael Ei Nov 23, 2012

    RebelYell - "...those of you feeling an issue with retail workers working during the retail season, just buy your Christmas gifts in April, why wait until now if you're so concerned."

    I don't have a problem with them working during the holidays, I have a problem with them not getting a holiday pay rate for working on a designated Federal holiday because the company cut their hours severely the week before so they could work them like dogs extra hours on that holiday without paying them the holiday pay rate.

    At Walmart, I believe you have to work 24 hours preceding the holiday to get the holiday rate for working the holiday. Otherwise, you just get your regular pay rate.

    And by the way, the 24 hours is the cut off for when you're considered a full time employee versus a part-time one. They hire enough people to keep everyone below the 24 hours so they don't have to provide benefits, holiday pay or vacation pay.

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