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limitguvment Nov 30, 9:08 a.m.
Wilkerson has a sorry safety record, they killed two more guys in an electrocution accident a few years ago working under powerlines. I worked for them a short while and I heard the owner say " we just have to give safety enough lip service and then do what it takes to get the job done". They are like about 99 percent of all the rest of the contractors out there.
Rebelyell Nov 27, 6:19 p.m.
For those comments about rescuers arriving and doing nothing, you don't get reports on the news about that, because the reporters are never allowed to say anything negative about first responders. But often when there is a fire, people wait for the fire department to rescue their family members in a house, and the fire department arrives and it becomes clear they are not going in, they will keep you from going in too.
Rebelyell Nov 27, 6:15 p.m.
What kind of rescue equipment does the fire department have for folks that are buried like this? A shovel? The tarp mainly hides the pitiful rescue attempt. This is why we need more OSHA inspections and enforcement. And better inspectors.
dsdaughtry Nov 21, 5:27 p.m.
i guess the most pressing question is, "why did this type of accident happen at one of the best engineering schools in the nation?"
RudeDawg Nov 21, 4:26 p.m.
The first thing that they teach you in confined space training is if you walk up and find your buddy at the bottom of a hole do not try to rescue him; if you do the rescue team will have to recover two bodies not just one. In trenching and shoring compentent person training they harp on ladder placement, soil clasifications, and how to work in a trench safely; but the number one way to be killed at work in the united states is trench cave in. You can not use the track hoe to dig the person out because that will kill them by ripping them apart; so you must dig them out by hand because even with a shovel you could seriously injure the person you are attempting to rescue. You should only try a rescue once the trench is safe. 1 CF of dirt = 115# dry & = 125# wet. 1 CY = 3375# even if your head is exposed and you can talk to people on the site you will be crushed and probably suffocate in less than 3 min due to the inability to inhale. I work around utility trenches daily.
101jackson101 Nov 21, 3:41 p.m.
Accidents do happen even when all measures of safety have been met, just question if the worker had the opportunity or thought of suggesting that he did not feel safe under the conditions.
jaecee452 Nov 21, 2:22 p.m.
There will always be somebody who says "would of, could of, should of". I agree with A1 Go Canes, unless you were there helping with the rescue stop speculating on what happened or should have happened.
A1 Go Canes Nov 21, 2:08 p.m.
First off - If you are not part of the investigation, a person that was on site before/during/after the accident, or someone familiar with this type of work, stop speculating on what the worker was or wasn't doing. The contractor had a trench box in place, the worker was on top of the ground attempting to lower a ladder into the trench box for access when the ground collapsed. (The ladder OUTSIDE the box was more than likely a Firefighter's, used to disperse weight in a rescue attempt). There may have been ground water displacing soil that caused the exterior wall to erode very quickly and cause the cave in (not confirmed yet). As for why the FD didn't attempt a rescue... the conditions were unsafe when they arrived. The soil was prone to another collapse when the activity of a rescue was attempted. Almost all trench rescues turn to recoveries. The weight of the soil usually crushes the victim instantly, if not the pressure will not allow the person to take more than a few breaths.
OneLove Nov 21, 2:01 p.m.
"That would be much riskier for the victim, but better than nothing." That's right.
OneLove Nov 21, 1:59 p.m.
I totally agree they should have attempted something. Prayers to the family. How horrible to know everyone sat & watched.
dsdaughtry Nov 21, 1:56 p.m.
Sadly it seems that NCSU has a worker safety problem. This happened during the construction on the arena. What I see is a problem with how NC State operates its public safety program. Sure, you can call 911 and it will route to the NCSU dispatcher. Then a Fire Marshall arrives and THEN will call for fire or rescue. This is the norm at NC State. I hate this happened, but it seems at NC State – death related injuries at an engineering school is the norm.
rachel Nov 21, 1:55 p.m.
I agree with ezlikeSundayMorning- it gives me a chill to think rescuers might show up a few minutes after it happened and decide not to attempt a rescue-do a little something at least
Cleanup on Aisle Cool Nov 21, 1:12 p.m.
Looks like the worker was somehwere he shouldn't have been. Look at where they're laying down the extension ladder - OUTSIDE of the trench box. Why was the worker working outside of the trench box?
ezLikeSundayMorning Nov 21, 1:12 p.m.
I don't fault this particular decision, but the idea that rescuers will decide not to try is disturbing to me. I'd rather hear that it was deemed not safe enough for a good rescue, but we gave it a shot with the backhoe. That would be much riskier for the victim, but better than nothing.
Don't get me wrong, I bet the rescuers wanted to try, just some rule got in the way. Like the firefighters not going into a shallow pond for someone trapped in their car because they weren't certified for water rescue.
NCHighlander Nov 21, 12:48 p.m.
Hopefully OSHA is all over this.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03